How does humanity slipspace without any shields?

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UNSC has had slipspace tech for about 300 years right, and they didnt have ship shielding until now?
In Halo Origins we can see the earliest models of frigates using slipspace just fine, way before discovering covenant shielding.

but why is it that out of nowhere in Halo 4 you suddenly need shields to traverse slipspace as the broadswords’s shields werent rated for slipspace? I know the shields must be kept to keep the objects coming through intact, but even with UNSC ship titanium armor the surface should be somewhat affected, but theyre left untouched all the time? But then the lich has the necessary shields and you can see the didact’s ship using shields going into slipspace as well.

how are slipspace mechanics changed now? You just need to make a portal that bends space around the boundary while leaving the space inside intact right? But then covenant ships also use shielding when going under slipspace and their ship armor is thick enough itself for slipspace without shields.

Its noted that UNSC and Covenant slipspace use the same/similar principles except the accuracy and finesse of executing slipspace is different, so why do covenant and forerunner ships need shielding for FTL travel but UNSC doesnt??

In halo ODST right before the carrier goes into slip space you can see its shielding glowing. The Amber Clad was even left intact and quite unaffected (other than cold archer pods and engine cores shutting off but thats due to the closing impact of the slipspace rupture as they just got out in time) going through the same slipspace channel, It didnt need shields and its armor is thinner…

The forward unto dawn was able to go through the Ark portal on earth without shields either.

Maybe its due to being a new ship?

The ship that carried blue team to destroy the covvie ship near harvest had no shields, the UNSC SoF doesnt seem to have shields either, I dont think their spartans did either. Cortana also explains to John in Halo CE that jumps require an expenditure of energy which can be done without permanently damaging his shields while implying that his shields protect him. Same thing in halo legends…

Maybe its radiation and shields/ certain armor are used to absorb it?
Anders was able to go through in planet slipspace systems in the shield world without needing personal shields nor any protection from radiation, nor was she using SPF-50 before getting some artificial sunshine in the shield world and having it accidently being more efficient than energy shielding. hehe. There was places in ships exposed like windows, however they have a metal screen sliding in to seal them during slipspace evident in Halo legends and Halo Wars when the bridge’s windows are sealed before entering slipspace? However it didnt look like Commander Miranda Keyes closed the blinds when entering the Regret’s slipspace channel.

So how did humanity slipspace travel without any ship shielding tech?

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> UNSC has had slipspace tech for about 300 years right, and they didnt have ship shielding until now?
> In Halo Origins we can see the earliest models of frigates using slipspace just fine, way before discovering covenant shielding.
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> but why is it that out of nowhere in Halo 4 you suddenly need shields to traverse slipspace as the broadswords’s shields werent rated for slipspace? I know the shields must be kept to keep the objects coming through intact, but even with UNSC ship titanium armor the surface should be somewhat affected, but theyre left untouched all the time? But then the lich has the necessary shields and you can see the didact’s ship using shields going into slipspace as well.
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> how are slipspace mechanics changed now? You just need to make a portal that bends space around the boundary while leaving the space inside intact right? But then covenant ships also use shielding when going under slipspace and their ship armor is thick enough itself for slipspace without shields.
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> Its noted that UNSC and Covenant slipspace use the same/similar principles except the accuracy and finesse of executing slipspace is different, so why do covenant and forerunner ships need shielding for FTL travel but UNSC doesnt??
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> In halo ODST right before the carrier goes into slip space you can see its shielding glowing. The Amber Clad was even left intact and quite unaffected (other than cold archer pods and engine cores shutting off but thats due to the closing impact of the slipspace rupture as they just got out in time) going through the same slipspace channel, It didnt need shields and its armor is thinner…
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> The forward unto dawn was able to go through the Ark portal on earth without shields either.
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> Maybe its due to being a new ship?
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> The ship that carried blue team to destroy the covvie ship near harvest had no shields, the UNSC SoF doesnt seem to have shields either, I dont think their spartans did either. Cortana also explains to John in Halo CE that jumps require an expenditure of energy which can be done without permanently damaging his shields while implying that his shields protect him. Same thing in halo legends…
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> Maybe its radiation and shields/ certain armor are used to absorb it?
> Anders was able to go through in planet slipspace systems in the shield world without needing personal shields nor any protection from radiation, nor was she using SPF-50 before getting some artificial sunshine in the shield world and having it accidently being more efficient than energy shielding. hehe. There was places in ships exposed like windows, however they have a metal screen sliding in to seal them during slipspace evident in Halo legends and Halo Wars when the bridge’s windows are sealed before entering slipspace? However it didnt look like Commander Miranda Keyes closed the blinds when entering the Regret’s slipspace channel.
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> So how did humanity slipspace travel without any ship shielding tech?

It’s probably more about radiation and structural integrity. The F-41 was a small fighter, and probably would have been ripped apart or not had radiation shielding (energy or normal) rated for slipspace.

Larger ships would probably have the structural integrity and radiation shielding for a slipspace jump.

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The hull of the ships were made of titanium to absorb radiation.
For Anders:Could it be that the forerunners uses a special kind of radiation which is not dangerous for humans to neutralizes the dangerous radioation?

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> The hull of the ships were made of titanium to absorb radiation.
> For Anders:Could it be that the forerunners uses a special kind of radiation which is not dangerous for humans to neutralizes the dangerous radioation?

Titanium is not a radiation shield…

A: Lead Radiation Shielding and possibly a Barium sulfate paint to assist in the scattering and negation of radiation!

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The slipspace drive generates a quantum field that sustains a bubble around UNSC ships that protects them from radiation.
Shaw-Fujikawa Translight Engine Functionality
Comes from Halsey’s journal.

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its obvious that humanity’s ships are coated with a very thin layer of baby oil. Check the math it all adds up. Trust me I’m a customer service rep.

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> The slipspace drive generates a quantum field that sustains a bubble around UNSC ships that protects them from radiation.
> Shaw-Fujikawa Translight Engine Functionality
> Comes from Halsey’s journal.

This is energetic radiation… Halsey is talking about M-theory, space/time gravity. You are still at risk from the radiation a quantum field would produce (xrays gamma heat, etc) all this field is doing is stopping the ship getting ripped apart by the forces placed open it and the effects of time dilation inside slipspace.

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Entering and exiting the slipstream is normally only attempted by ships of large mass, their gravity wells stabilizing the constantly fluctuating slipspace to a degree that allows safe passage. Small ships, such as dropships, do not possess the same gravity and are placed under considerably more stress than a warship, able to crack the hull and buckle reinforcing struts. In addition, ships have to account to issues of immense radiation and static electricity that hulls collect in slipspace. Polymerized lithium niobocene was designed to deal with the latter, and all UNSC ships feature lead-foil in their hulls.

The greatest issue however, has to do with the maintenance of the quantum fields that keep ships in slipspace. Quantum fields act as the medium between slipspace and the actual ship (kind of like a glass window separating a person from what is virtually eleventh-dimensional hell), and without them, you’ll be stuck in slipspace. Automatic systems (For UNSC ships, A.I’s usually fill in that role) are dedicated to the quadrillions of quantum field calculations per second that are necessary to keep the ship moving.

As you can see, its no small task to put a ship in slipspace, much less keep it there.

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Aye, pretty much what most others have said. On top of that, I want to reinforce that small craft are put under considerably more duress in slipspace - recall First Strike, when Blue Team inserted into Covenant-controlled space near Unyielding Heirophant (or as Johnson calls it, Uneven Elephant)? They had to considerably alter and reinforce the Spirit Dropship they employed just to survive exiting from the main craft and dropping out of slipspace independently. Small craft generally aren’t rated for slipspace (or at least, weren’t - post-war Forerunner enhanced slipspace technology seems to be enabling smaller craft to do so now).

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> The hull of the ships were made of titanium to absorb radiation.
> For Anders:Could it be that the forerunners uses a special kind of radiation which is not dangerous for humans to neutralizes the dangerous radioation?

On Anders, the forerunners definitely had some kind of special radiation for this. Wasn’t the slipspace jump kinda like a teleport, which I believe we’ve seen unarmored humans do before.

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Why is the shield generator on star destroyers in Star Wars the only thing not shielded idfk

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It’s less about radiation and more about Hull strength. The Broadsword is tiny compared to the smallest Slipspace-rated frigate.

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They basically used very thick plating on their ships. The plating was much stronger than the combined defensive strength of a Broadswords own armour and energy shielding.

As for the smaller slipspace portals seen on Forerunner installations, it’s hard to say. As they’re generally part of an enclosed transit network, or even simply point to point, it’s possible that the Forerunners developed some sort of light shielding to protect those using it. In most cases these portals are so close together that travel is instantaneous, so perhaps the amount of time spent within slipspace also factors into things.

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I did a quick skim through the thread and to my knowledge, it looks it has yet to be mentioned that humanity utilizes lead foil lining the inside of their ships to shield it from the radiation of slipspace.

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> It’s less about radiation and more about Hull strength. The Broadsword is tiny compared to the smallest Slipspace-rated frigate.

That’s how it was before Halo 4…now apparently you need shields to travel at all in Slipspace according to 343i >_>

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> That’s how it was before Halo 4…now apparently you need shields to travel at all in Slipspace according to 343i >_>

Where was it stated that slipspace didn’t have radiation? Normal space has radiation from time to time.

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It’s highly likely that they had basic magnetic sheilding to protect the ship from radiation. This would also explain why things like the Van Allen Radiation Belts doesn’t give the UNSC any problems. Shields like this are almost possible today, wouldn’t protect from any actual damage, and could easily be powered by the ship’s reactor.

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> > It’s less about radiation and more about Hull strength. The Broadsword is tiny compared to the smallest Slipspace-rated frigate.
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> That’s how it was before Halo 4…now apparently you need shields to travel at all in Slipspace according to 343i >_>

Or use lead foil like it was mentioned in the earliest facets of Halo lore.

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> Where was it stated that slipspace didn’t have radiation? Normal space has radiation from time to time.

Sorry, maybe my post wasn’t really clear ^^’ I wasn’t meaning to say that there wasn’t any kind of radiation in Slipspace or cause by Slipspace ruptures before Halo 4, because there have been, I was talking about needing energy shields or specific shielding explicitly for Slipspace travel, that was what was never the case before Halo 4. Because UNSC ships never had any kind of protection against radiation beyond the kind of stuff you’d find on space craft and space stations in our own time.

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> Sorry, maybe my post wasn’t really clear ^^’ I wasn’t meaning to say that there wasn’t any kind of radiation in Slipspace or cause by Slipspace ruptures before Halo 4, because there have been, I was talking about needing energy shields or specific shielding explicitly for Slipspace travel, that was what was never the case before Halo 4. Because UNSC ships never had any kind of protection against radiation beyond the kind of stuff you’d find on space craft and space stations in our own time.

Ok. I don’t think energy shielding is neasesary for slipspace travel, at least not those rates high enough (to protest against radiation, which the didact’s were and F-41’s were not)

before non-energy shielded ships simply had radiation shielding, probably lead or some other material or an EM field to protect the crew, which the f-41 did not have.

and it’s never stated that the radiation shielding for stations and ships are not different, the probably would be.