I’ve read a few posts concerning the admittedly cluttered an open-ended Didact/Cortana + Composer/slipspace portal deaths, and it seems fairly clear that either of the characters have a not-to-slim, though certainly not definite chance at returning.
Focusing on Cortana–a human character–how would you like to see her return, if even at all? Some people speak of her returning as a reverse-composed human, others as an AI, others as a separate character.
What do you think?
Something beyond AI aka metahuman. What Librarian planned with her.
I would prefer if Cortana didn’t return. I love her as a character, but Halo has a realistic permanence of death that I don’t want altered. I also feel thousands of people in the Halo universe have valiantly sacrificed themselves for the greater good, and I think its time for a major character to do it too.
I think it really cheapens halo 4’s entire interaction between her and chief if she just survives.
That said, its possible the librarian has a copy of her. And its about the only explanation I could see working.
The didact’s ship exploded. If there was still some of her on the ship she wouldnt have just said “bye chief”. AI’s need a storage device, she’s not a spirit, she’s a bunch of code.
Rule # 1 with Halo Master Chief DOES NOT FAIL!
The game is not Halo without Cortana, the most sophisticated AI to ever be created by humans according to the Lore that actually has not been changed by 343I.
I am actually really surprised they didn’t change that.
Even trying to put that aside what was Master Chiefs Secondary mission, it was to protect Cortana.
I’m sorry but whatever 343I comes up with for 5 & 6 if it does not have that pairing it will not be Halo anything.
> Rule # 1 with Halo Master Chief DOES NOT FAIL!
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> The game is not Halo without Cortana, the most sophisticated AI to ever be created by humans according to the Lore that actually has not been changed by 343I.
> I am actually really surprised they didn’t change that.
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> Even trying to put that aside what was Master Chiefs Secondary mission, it was to protect Cortana.
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> I’m sorry but whatever 343I comes up with for 5 & 6 if it does not have that pairing it will not be Halo anything.
Halo is way more than a person or pairing, I personally want Chief out of the picture and Cortana to stay dead.
I didnt like Cortana in this game feeling all over the place and i do not want to see a physical Cortana.
They should just kill her and 117 and just tell the story of Thorne.
A part of me hopes she stays dead. It would feel cheap to bring her back.
> Rule # 1 with Halo Master Chief DOES NOT FAIL!
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> The game is not Halo without Cortana, the most sophisticated AI to ever be created by humans according to the Lore that actually has not been changed by 343I.
> I am actually really surprised they didn’t change that.
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> Even trying to put that aside what was Master Chiefs Secondary mission, it was to protect Cortana.
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> I’m sorry but whatever 343I comes up with for 5 & 6 if it does not have that pairing it will not be Halo anything.
Master Chief doesn’t fail? Oh apart from that time he was captured by insurrectionists. And the time Linda was mortally wounded when on a mission with him above Reach. Or the time Li and Anton were vaporised while on a mission with him. Or the time when Grace was killed on a mission with him. Or the time he didn’t save Keyes. Or the time he didn’t save Miranda. Or the time he didn’t save Sgt Johnson.
They’re all the same scenario. He succeeded with the mission at the cost of an ally or downright failed. Cortana is just another example of these scenarios. To claim that the #1 rule of Halo is that Chief doesn’t fail is ridiculous. No one likes an invincible character, they have to have SOME flaws. Plus 343 were trying to expand on his humanity and so to do that he had to fail, because that’s what humans do. It’s called decent writing.
I know for certain that I will miss Cortana a lot. She was a big part of what made Halo great, and I know Halo won’t be the same without her. However I don’t want 343 to bring Cortana back through some contrived plot twist; that would ruin the emotion which came with her sacrifice for me.
> I would prefer if Cortana didn’t return. I love her as a character, but Halo has a realistic permanence of death that I don’t want altered. I also feel thousands of people in the Halo universe have valiantly sacrificed themselves for the greater good, <mark>and I think its time for a major character to do it too.</mark>
So Sergeant Johnson and Miranda Keyes don’t count as major Halo characters?
> Halo is way more than a person or pairing,[/h] I personally want Chief out of the picture and Cortana to stay dead.
Agreed, but Halo, even with regard to Halo: Reach and other spinoffs have always circulated about John, and his fight; to simply cast him and Cortana off after Halo 4 is definitely not the right choice.
Of course, I do want to see some kind of closure to his story at the end of the trilogy. At some point he has to “retire”, so to speak, and while I don’t quite see Cortana returning for Halo 5 at the very least, I think for the purposes of CONCLUSION to Halo some kind of joint recession of the two characters has to occur.
It could be very possible that at the end of Halo 5 we’ll have some sort of cliffhanger ending regarding her return (what if she were in some twisted Floodcursor/Precursor state?), and if not I think we’ll certainly have a glimpse of her and the Chief at the end of Halo 6.
I would like her to be out for Halo 5 so we can touch the SIVs and Chief’s relationship with them as well as the return of his SII friends and then in Halo 6, she returns to help Chief in a metastabilic form.
Cortana is dead. That is why she received that tear jerker scene with the Chief, because there time together was finally over and symbolizing that now that Cortana’s gone its time for Chief to be the Human one in that relationship.
Now the Didact is certainly alive and since hes personally responsible for Cortana’s death. I sense some awesome personnel conflict between the two.
It is way more meaningful and better contributes to the story if Cortana stays gone. It’s more interesting from a character standpoint to see Chief deal with the loss instead of denying it.
> I would prefer if Cortana didn’t return. I love her as a character, but Halo has a realistic permanence of death that I don’t want altered. I also feel thousands of people in the Halo universe have valiantly sacrificed themselves for the greater good, and I think its time for a major character to do it too.
This. The Halo 4 ending was really strong and well done, I was legitimately sad at her death and Jon’s last line was epic on many levels. If Cortana ends up living it will cancel all that out and it will also show that 343i are spineless and indecisive storytellers. Also, there were absolutely no hints that she can survive (unlike the Didact). They killed her and did so well, let her stay dead (as much as I love her and wish she would not have died).
I’m not sure what I want of the Didact, though… If he does die it’s likely we’ll meet the Borenestellar-Didact though, which will be better than having the original pop out of nowhere. I think their last chance to bring back the Didact with out shoehorning it would be in Spartan Ops. It’s only believable he’ll be at Requiem, considering all the composed souls got back there.
> > <mark>and think its time for a major character to do it too.</mark>
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> So Sergeant Johnson and Miranda Keyes don’t count as major Halo characters?
They were major characters, but not to the degree of the Chief or Cortana.
agree with previous post. Cortana should stay dead, but make her death still have a massive impact to chief in Halo 5. Kind of like what the Joker did in the dark knight that made a significant impact into the characters in TDKR.
I’m personally on the fence about this. I could imagine a few manners in which Cortana could return. For example, it’s not inconceivable for a part of her to have survived among the wreckage of the Mantle’s Approach. Take that with the idea of getting another cloned brain of Dr. Halsey (as discussed by Cortana on the level “Requiem”), a full revival isn’t impossible or too far fetched. Another possibility is a “new” Cortana, (i.e. another AI created from the cloned brain of Halsey).
On the other hand, for Cortana to have a proper return (as in the true Cortana returning, not some copy), that would really “cheapen” her sacrifice (for lack of a better word). The second scenario (a “new” Cortana") could be interesting, though.
> I’m personally on the fence about this. I could imagine a few manners in which Cortana could return. For example, it’s not inconceivable for a part of her to have survived among the wreckage of the Mantle’s Approach. Take that with the idea of getting another cloned brain of Dr. Halsey (as discussed by Cortana on the level “Requiem”), a full revival isn’t impossible or too far fetched. Another possibility is a “new” Cortana, (i.e. another AI created from the cloned brain of Halsey).
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> On the other hand, for Cortana to have a proper return (as in the true Cortana returning, not some copy), that would really “cheapen” her sacrifice (for lack of a better word). The second scenario (a “new” Cortana") could be interesting, though.
It would be an interesting story aspect if the Chief gets a new Cortana. 343i can showcase a very distant relationship between those two characters even if they are not really new. I’d love to something like this in lines of Halo 5.
And yes. I do believe Cortana is coming back. I am seeing her as a new enemy for the Chief.
> > I’m personally on the fence about this. I could imagine a few manners in which Cortana could return. For example, it’s not inconceivable for a part of her to have survived among the wreckage of the Mantle’s Approach. Take that with the idea of getting another cloned brain of Dr. Halsey (as discussed by Cortana on the level “Requiem”), a full revival isn’t impossible or too far fetched. Another possibility is a “new” Cortana, (i.e. another AI created from the cloned brain of Halsey).
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> > On the other hand, for Cortana to have a proper return (as in the true Cortana returning, not some copy), that would really “cheapen” her sacrifice (for lack of a better word). The second scenario (a “new” Cortana") could be interesting, though.
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> It would be an interesting story aspect if the Chief gets a new Cortana. 343i can showcase a very distant relationship between those two characters even if they are not really new. I’d love to something like this in lines of Halo 5.
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> <mark>And yes. I do believe Cortana is coming back. I am seeing her as a new enemy for the Chief.</mark>
Bullseye!!