How do you all feel about Ragnarok?

No, not how often you play it. Does anyone actually have as much fun on this as in Halo 3? Personally, my favorite gamemode–Big Team–has been made unplayable by the combinations of DMR, Vehicle inferiority (you’ll probably survive longer on foot than in a Ghost), and oversaturation of power weapons (although I do believe Ordinance Drops could work if tweaked). It’s not fun and it’s repetitive.

Ragnarok is standing proof for this. I don’t know about you all, but I don’t have nearly as much fun as I did in Halo 3. Please do not think I’m trying to put words into your mouths when I say this, I’m just expressing my own opinion. Gone are the days of Warthog rampages. Now we just have sniper frenzies from the back of the map and DMR camping. There’s no map movement, there’s no strategy, and there’s no fun.

With such an exact remake, it’s obvious to see what the real problem is here.

I hate it, although I hated it in halo 3 also.

I don’t really like it because the DMR. I feel like it just halts map movement.

I love it… in small doses. But when I play four matches in a row where virtually everyone chooses Ragnarock or Exile, it becomes extremely tiresome.

> I love it… in small doses. But when I play four matches in a row where virtually everyone chooses Ragnarock or Exile, it becomes extremely tiresome.

This is slowly ruining the map for me. Despite the DMR superiority and all that I still like it, but everyone’s eagerness to vote for it gets annoying after awhile.

Everytime Ragnarok is picked in BTB im like “Why there is no Narrows or Sandtrap” cuz they are really a lot better than Valhalla :((

I don’t really have many issues with the DMR on the map, it’s just how it’s overly picked and gets too repetitive. But, I enjoyed it more in Halo 3 for some reason. I’m not a fan of the Mantis, I think I’d enjoy it a little more if the Mantis was not on the map. I wish Sandtrap was the remake instead.

l’ll take it over Exile anyday

I like Ragnorok…

i love Rag, in the last 5 days, i’ve gotten 10 perfections on that map. so easy to snipe on =p

I like it, but i agree that they need to make it more balanced in terms of the vechicles and ordinance drops

I loved the map in Halo 3, but Ragnarock in this game is pretty terrible for Big Team Battle. The games usually end up having one team, usually red team, camp up in the middle and unleash the DMR’s power at the enemies, while blue team is at their base doing the same thing, and will also usually have at least a couple of snipers too. Since the Warthog is useless and the Banshee dies too quickly, all the interesting vehicular combat from the original is gone too

Ragnarock is a terrible map for Halo 4. The map is dominated by either Mantis’ or DMRs. There is absolutely no map movement, it’s just becomes a DMR snipe match. It’s not fun in any way, shape, or form. Nostalgia has no place in gaming. If it doesn’t work with a new game, then don’t try and make it work, don’t force it.

Well it’s the only vehicle friendly map thats actually vehicle friendly. The rest of the big team maps have giant rocks all around you turning what would have been big open maps into claustrophobic vehicle corridors.

> Everytime Ragnarok is picked in BTB im like “Why there is no Narrows or Sandtrap” cuz they are really a lot better than Valhalla :((

DUDE, Sandtrap was the best. I also enjoyed the main Forge World variant in BTB…Blood Gulch remakes are always welcome.

I enjoy Ragnarok…at first it was played too much, but now there are times where I go quite a while without seeing it as an option, so that makes me sad.

I’m still debating on getting the new maps to add that much more variety to BTB, or to wait until there are smaller maps for SWAT…

The only way to survive in Ragnarok is to be in the mantis or just sit at your base. Take one step out and you’ll be headshotted by the sniper rifle or spammed by DMRs.

Looked better in Halo 3, the yellow-ish tint on things just looks ugly to me. I liked the more vibrant greens and blues myself.

As for the map in gameplay aspects…it’s a DMR-abusing haven. That’s all it ever comes down to really. I like the DMR myself, but it does get old using the same weapon over and over because it can outdo the other starter weapons with ease and using anything else aside from power weapons on that map is often a suicide move.

It wasn’t even that good of a map in Halo 3. I have no idea why this is the only map they chose to remake.

> i love Rag, in the last 5 days, i’ve gotten 10 perfections on that map. so easy to snipe on =p

NICE CAMPING!

I think once they do some tweaks to some vehicles, warthog turret, ghost etc and balance the weapons more it may perform better as a map.
Also they need to seriously make it so you don’t have to play it every match that’s when people begin to hate a map it magnifies the problems a map may have even if they are minor or big.