Frank pretty much gave away in the Halo 4 panel at halo fest that at least elites will make an appearance in halo 4,he states that the new trilogy will have a lot of influence from the new pieces of literature like Glasslands and so on, which means the covies or at least Elites will be in the new games…
idk it could be just me, but that seems like some very strong evidence
plus it would be suicide for 343 to remove half of Halo by removing the covies or elites…
any thoughts?
I think it would be weird if the didn’t have any covenant in Halo 4 in some way like maybe some stragglers left over from the ark with some brute chieftain trying to take charge and rebuild or something like that. And with the new enemy that threatens the whole galaxy it would be odd for the elites not to get involved.
We’ll have to see exactly what the setting of the game is, though. If it’s being occupied by Humans and Elites due to the war, and word hasn’t reached that it ended, then it would make sense. But if not, why would the Elites be there after the Covenant disintegrated? They wouldn’t be searching for the Forerunner “holy relics” anymore, because they aren’t trying to destroy all life in the galaxy now lol.
The most basic point it comes down to is the exact location of the story. That determines who’s there, and probably why they’re there. I’m sure the Elites will make SOME appearance in the trilogy. I mean, I don’t know if they’d just up and get rid of the Arbiter seeing as how he’s a main and iconic character. But you never know.
Just saying it would make sense for the covies to be there sense they would have most likely fled to the shield world when the halo array was activated.
Covies can go. Elites must stay. Reach was the first time since many years that we saw CE style Elites again. It was a refreshing change compared to the -Yoink- slow Elites of H2 and H3.
> Just saying it would make sense for the covies to be there sense they would have most likely fled to the shield world when the halo array was activated.
I’m pretty sure he was talking about the Infinity and Spartan-IVs when he said that Glasslands would tie into Halo 4. In plus, the Covenant didn’t know about the Shield World and the Halo Array wasn’t activated, so why would they somehow end up there?
I honestly don’t want any Covenant to appear in Halo 4, though I would accept Elites showing up for multiplayer. After reading Glasslands, it seems quite improbable that they would be exploring the galaxy.
You’re thinking way too much into something small and creating too many huge expectations with them.
I hope. I want elites to return. If not then whatever.
> > Just saying it would make sense for the covies to be there sense they would have most likely fled to the shield world when the halo array was activated.
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> I’m pretty sure he was talking about the Infinity and Spartan-IVs when he said that Glasslands would tie into Halo 4. In plus, the Covenant didn’t know about the Shield World and the Halo Array wasn’t activated, so why would they somehow end up there?
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> I honestly don’t want any Covenant to appear in Halo 4, though I would accept Elites showing up for multiplayer. After reading Glasslands, it seems quite improbable that they would be exploring the galaxy.
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> You’re thinking way too much into something small and creating too many huge expectations with them.
how can you say that the covenant dont know about the shield worlds? they worship the forerunners and know WAY more about the forerunner tech then the UNSC, so how can you say that if master chief stumbled upon it… and shield worlds are only activated when a halo is about to be fired(and the halo shook apart at the end of halo 3 while trying to fire)
which would explain why the shield world would have been activated…
> > Just saying it would make sense for the covies to be there sense they would have most likely fled to the shield world when the halo array was activated.
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> I’m pretty sure he was talking about the Infinity and Spartan-IVs when he said that Glasslands would tie into Halo 4. <mark>In plus, the Covenant didn’t know about the Shield World</mark> and the Halo Array wasn’t activated, so why would they somehow end up there?
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> I honestly don’t want any Covenant to appear in Halo 4, though I would accept Elites showing up for multiplayer. After reading Glasslands, it seems quite improbable that they would be exploring the galaxy.
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> You’re thinking way too much into something small and creating too many huge expectations with them.
Actually, the Covenant had known the locations of many Shield Worlds.
> > > Just saying it would make sense for the covies to be there sense they would have most likely fled to the shield world when the halo array was activated.
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> > I’m pretty sure he was talking about the Infinity and Spartan-IVs when he said that Glasslands would tie into Halo 4. In plus, the Covenant didn’t know about the Shield World and the Halo Array wasn’t activated, so why would they somehow end up there?
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> > I honestly don’t want any Covenant to appear in Halo 4, though I would accept Elites showing up for multiplayer. After reading Glasslands, it seems quite improbable that they would be exploring the galaxy.
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> > You’re thinking way too much into something small and creating too many huge expectations with them.
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> how can you say that the covenant dont know about the shield worlds? they worship the forerunners and know WAY more about the forerunner tech then the UNSC, so how can you say that if master chief stumbled upon it… and shield worlds are only activated when a halo is about to be fired(and the halo shook apart at the end of halo 3 while trying to fire)
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> which would explain why the shield world would have been activated…
First of all, the Covenant didn’t even know the location of all the Halo rings. I played through Halo 2 just yesterday, and the Prophet of Truth tells the Arbiter something along the lines of “After the destruction of the first sacred ring, we were blessed enough to stumble upon another”. If they didn’t know all of that, why/how would they know where is a Shield World in a random part of the galaxy? In plus, it is heavily implied that the reason John made it to the Shield World in the first place was due to Mendicant Bias sending him there to prove that he (Bias) has changed in his ways, so he didn’t stumble upon it quite as randomly as you’d think. In plus, saying that the Covenant and humans randomly stumbled upon it and kept fighting due to not knowing that the war was over is quite horrible storytelling as well, and I doubt 343 Industries would create such a bad story.
Also, Shield Worlds don’t only activate once a Halo is about to be fired. Take a look at Halo Wars for example, which has a Shield World as its setting in the last third or so of the game. Nobody knew about the Halo Array at the time, much less were in the progress of activating them, yet they were still able to gain access to it. Shield World Trevelyan is an exception to this rule due to the fact that it was kept in a slipspace bubble in the middle of Onyx, which had the portal open when the Halo Array was close to being fired. However, this is not the case with the world in Halo 4, as we can see clearly in the concept art and announcement trailer.
> Actually, the Covenant had known the locations of many Shield Worlds.
This Shield World seems to be quite far outside of Covenant or human territory, it seems rather unlikely that they would know of its location.
> > Actually, the Covenant had known the locations of many Shield Worlds.
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> This Shield World seems to be quite far outside of Covenant or human territory, it seems rather unlikely that they would know of its location.
It’s still a possibility. 343i could build the story behind it, if they haven’t already.
Maybe this Shield World is where the San 'Shyuum disappeared too. They never told the other Covenant species about it. That’s just a theory, don’t take it seriously.
> > > > Just saying it would make sense for the covies to be there sense they would have most likely fled to the shield world when the halo array was activated.
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> > > I’m pretty sure he was talking about the Infinity and Spartan-IVs when he said that Glasslands would tie into Halo 4. In plus, the Covenant didn’t know about the Shield World and the Halo Array wasn’t activated, so why would they somehow end up there?
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> > > I honestly don’t want any Covenant to appear in Halo 4, though I would accept Elites showing up for multiplayer. After reading Glasslands, it seems quite improbable that they would be exploring the galaxy.
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> > > You’re thinking way too much into something small and creating too many huge expectations with them.
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> > how can you say that the covenant dont know about the shield worlds? they worship the forerunners and know WAY more about the forerunner tech then the UNSC, so how can you say that if master chief stumbled upon it… and shield worlds are only activated when a halo is about to be fired(and the halo shook apart at the end of halo 3 while trying to fire)
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> > which would explain why the shield world would have been activated…
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> First of all, the Covenant didn’t even know the location of all the Halo rings. I played through Halo 2 just yesterday, and the Prophet of Truth tells the Arbiter something along the lines of “After the destruction of the first sacred ring, we were blessed enough to stumble upon another”. If they didn’t know all of that, why/how would they know where is a Shield World in a random part of the galaxy? In plus, it is heavily implied that the reason John made it to the Shield World in the first place was due to Mendicant Bias sending him there to prove that he (Bias) has changed in his ways, so he didn’t stumble upon it quite as randomly as you’d think. In plus, saying that the Covenant and humans randomly stumbled upon it and kept fighting due to not knowing that the war was over is quite horrible storytelling as well, and I doubt 343 Industries would create such a bad story.
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> Also, Shield Worlds don’t only activate once a Halo is about to be fired. Take a look at Halo Wars for example, which has a Shield World as its setting in the last third or so of the game. Nobody knew about the Halo Array at the time, much less were in the progress of activating them, yet they were still able to gain access to it. Shield World Trevelyan is an exception to this rule due to the fact that it was kept in a slipspace bubble in the middle of Onyx, which had the portal open when the Halo Array was close to being fired. However, this is not the case with the world in Halo 4, as we can see clearly in the concept art and announcement trailer.
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> > Actually, the Covenant had known the locations of many Shield Worlds.
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> This Shield World seems to be quite far outside of Covenant or human territory, it seems rather unlikely that they would know of its location.
Lol Where are you getting your information… stop making up facts, which are nothing more then your misconception of halo universe…
> > > > > Just saying it would make sense for the covies to be there sense they would have most likely fled to the shield world when the halo array was activated.
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> > > > I’m pretty sure he was talking about the Infinity and Spartan-IVs when he said that Glasslands would tie into Halo 4. In plus, the Covenant didn’t know about the Shield World and the Halo Array wasn’t activated, so why would they somehow end up there?
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> > > > I honestly don’t want any Covenant to appear in Halo 4, though I would accept Elites showing up for multiplayer. After reading Glasslands, it seems quite improbable that they would be exploring the galaxy.
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> > > > You’re thinking way too much into something small and creating too many huge expectations with them.
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> > > how can you say that the covenant dont know about the shield worlds? they worship the forerunners and know WAY more about the forerunner tech then the UNSC, so how can you say that if master chief stumbled upon it… and shield worlds are only activated when a halo is about to be fired(and the halo shook apart at the end of halo 3 while trying to fire)
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> > > which would explain why the shield world would have been activated…
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> > First of all, the Covenant didn’t even know the location of all the Halo rings. I played through Halo 2 just yesterday, and the Prophet of Truth tells the Arbiter something along the lines of “After the destruction of the first sacred ring, we were blessed enough to stumble upon another”. If they didn’t know all of that, why/how would they know where is a Shield World in a random part of the galaxy? In plus, it is heavily implied that the reason John made it to the Shield World in the first place was due to Mendicant Bias sending him there to prove that he (Bias) has changed in his ways, so he didn’t stumble upon it quite as randomly as you’d think. In plus, saying that the Covenant and humans randomly stumbled upon it and kept fighting due to not knowing that the war was over is quite horrible storytelling as well, and I doubt 343 Industries would create such a bad story.
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> > Also, Shield Worlds don’t only activate once a Halo is about to be fired. Take a look at Halo Wars for example, which has a Shield World as its setting in the last third or so of the game. Nobody knew about the Halo Array at the time, much less were in the progress of activating them, yet they were still able to gain access to it. Shield World Trevelyan is an exception to this rule due to the fact that it was kept in a slipspace bubble in the middle of Onyx, which had the portal open when the Halo Array was close to being fired. However, this is not the case with the world in Halo 4, as we can see clearly in the concept art and announcement trailer.
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> > > Actually, the Covenant had known the locations of many Shield Worlds.
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> > This Shield World seems to be quite far outside of Covenant or human territory, it seems rather unlikely that they would know of its location.
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> Lol Where are you getting your information… stop making up facts, which are nothing more then your misconception of halo universe…
Alright then, here are my sources for every bit of facts that I have given you :
The only piece of speculation that I had pointed out in my previous post was about John not having stumbled upon the Shield World by accident, though I had believed that was clear when I said that it had been implied and not directly stated. I do believe that shows that I am not, as you say, “making up facts”. I have read every book (minus the two new ones) a minimum of three times and have played through the campaign of each game countless times. I think I know my stuff well enough to not need to resort to creating false information.
I’m not getting my hopes up, but I hope we at least see the Elites at some point.