As you know, kill farming is a thing, bc of the grind for achilles. Alot of the players in Halo 5 seem to only care about kd, and are never team players. So how can 343 fix this? Reward Armor for Game Mode and Assist commendations. Judging how there are around 80 unique armors, I have faith in 343 to make more. These armors will provide incentive to play the objective. Right now we only have incentive for kills.So thats just a suggestion. Feedback would be appreciated :]
Or they could just match teams against teams and randoms against randoms.
i see it, but i dont think having the assists and mode commendations would do anything, people pay more attention to the kill ones.
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> i see it, but i dont think having the assists and mode commendations would do anything, people pay more attention to the kill ones.
All I’m saying is, if I could get a bad Yoink armor like Achilles for capping 100 armories, I’d focus on that too.
I just experienced my first official Kill Farming session in a WarZone. The “SPAWN KILL REPEAT” Spartan Company did exactly that. They took control of the bases and then promptly ignored the victory conditions. They proceeded to set up at key stations and literally kill everyone on the other team until they hit 1000 points due to kills and holding the three bases long enough.
Being on the receiving end of this, it was absolutely frustrating and I don’t at all blame the people who dropped. The problem, then, is that those people are then negatively flagged for having dropped a game while the folks over at “Spawn Kill Repeat” are not negatively impacted at all. Except that perhaps enough people will complain and 343 will realize that allowing these practices to continue is a detriment to their business model.
Look, I have no problem with Spartan Companies wanting to play together. BUT, to match up eleven members from the same company against a bunch of random players who have never played together before? That’s simply allowing them to set up the conditions for kill farming and it’s completely unfair, leaving at least twelve (and more like fifteen, given the drops and the poor souls who got thrown in on the losing side) other players very dissatisfied with 343’s setting up this situation.
I’ve recorded the match and will be more than happy to send it on to 343 if you want to see how this practice plays out. Hopefully they’ll understand that they need to do SOMETHING about it before it starts costing them customers.
[Edit]: Please note, I don’t blame the folks over at Spawn Kill Repeat for doing this, as frustrating as it was to be on the receiving end of their kill farming while trying to just get through a random game, it’s not their fault. 343 is the group that set this up to be a possibility, and they are the ones that need to change it. Change the matchmaking so that if 51% or more of a given team will be from the same company that those folks end up being matched up against other companies, simple as that. A good group of five or six from the same company will be able to do some damage, sure, but not the same way that these guys did it. Seriously, the video is impressive, and it’s also completely unsporting.
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> Or they could just match teams against teams and randoms against randoms.
How are they supposed to do that, are they going to match an specific team of 8 with another team of 8? if they pair a team of 10 with a team of 7 it wouldn’t be fair either would it? you can’t ask 343 to punish teamwork because you want to play alone.
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Ideal matches would be 12 v 12. if there isn’t a party of 12 then it search for 11, then 10 etc. It takes 10 extra seconds and most people would be happier. Full teams would get more of a challenge and randoms wouldn’t get stomped.
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Ok, so if there’s a team of 12 and there’s only a team of 4 availible, the game is going to pair both of them according to your logic, that would leave us with the same situation, the team of 12 is obviously going to destroy the team of 4 and the other 8 randoms, as i said, you can’t punish a team with more search time because you don’t want to get stomped by a coordinated team, warzone is a casual gamemode, 343 is not going to make it competitive by pairing you with a team of the same numbers as yours
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> Ok, so if there’s a team of 12 and there’s only a team of 4 availible, the game is going to pair both of them according to your logic, that would leave us with the same situation, the team of 12 is obviously going to destroy the team of 4 and the other 8 randoms, as i said, you can’t punish a team with more search time because you don’t want to get stomped by a coordinated team, warzone is a casual gamemode, 343 is not going to make it competitive by pairing you with a team of the same numbers as yours
And that would of course be a common occurrence. Pointing out that there are outliers, doesn’t help your argument.
I just wish there was a mechanic where members of a PUG team (in WZ) can leave a match against a team that contains a fireteam of say 70% of the total squad and not face a ban. This would allow companies to play how they want and grind and just kill people while skipping bosses, or waiting for the final moments to allow unsuspecting attackers to take bases (in WZ assault) and prolong the massacre, but players could just leave and not be forced into long terrible games or get banned upon leaving early. It’s damaging to the casual to intermediate community. Honestly, outside of little things here and there, companies playing in unsportsman like ways has been my only true issue with Halo 5 multiplayer. Then again, I tend to be an optimistic gamer.
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> As you know, kill farming is a thing, bc of the grind for achilles. Alot of the players in Halo 5 seem to only care about kd, and are never team players. So how can 343 fix this? Reward Armor for Game Mode and Assist commendations. Judging how there are around 80 unique armors, I have faith in 343 to make more. These armors will provide incentive to play the objective. Right now we only have incentive for kills.So thats just a suggestion. Feedback would be appreciated :]
Because Bungie never did the same thing for Awesome armor like Hayabusa *rolls eyes
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> > As you know, kill farming is a thing, bc of the grind for achilles. Alot of the players in Halo 5 seem to only care about kd, and are never team players. So how can 343 fix this? Reward Armor for Game Mode and Assist commendations. Judging how there are around 80 unique armors, I have faith in 343 to make more. These armors will provide incentive to play the objective. Right now we only have incentive for kills.So thats just a suggestion. Feedback would be appreciated :]
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> Because Bungie never did the same thing for Awesome armor like Hayabusa *rolls eyes
No they did not.
If you remember the unlock requirements for Hayabusa youd realize it was in no way tied to match making or kills.
But hey you must spew info out of your rear end without any research whatsoever right?
Hayabusa unlock.
How To Unlock
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Helmet: Obtain all thirteen skulls. (Blind, Black Eye, IWHBYD, Iron, Cowbell, Famine, Grunt Birthday Party, Tough Luck, Catch, Fog, Tilt, ThunderStorm, and Mythic)
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Shoulders: Obtain nine skulls.
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Chest: Obtain five skulls.Also if memmory does not fail me, no armors in H3 were tied to kills.
Neither in Reach.
So please name an example where Bungie did this again? and this time do some actual research before replying.
as a random i get annoyed sometimes playing teams.
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> As you know, kill farming is a thing, bc of the grind for achilles. Alot of the players in Halo 5 seem to only care about kd, and are never team players. So how can 343 fix this? Reward Armor for Game Mode and Assist commendations. Judging how there are around 80 unique armors, I have faith in 343 to make more. These armors will provide incentive to play the objective. Right now we only have incentive for kills.So thats just a suggestion. Feedback would be appreciated :]
How about you just get good?
Lol you can’t stop it, however you can mitigate it by not getting killed. So just sit together in the base and let them come to you. If their primary goal is to farm up kills then don’t let them farm up kills.
I believe kill farming existed before Achilles was even known. But I can see that it gave it a slight boost.