Hot take: pickup equipment = hero shooter

They only removed Spartan charge and ground pound because it was OP and overused and they weren’t variable because everyone had them which is the opposite to what you are arguing for.

Yep in competitive there’ll be a geek with a stopwatch calling out the times and there will be a fight over it if they value it enough that is.

The only thing I can agree with OP and what you said is the spawning and positioning. Being handed it for free on spawn effects it negatively.

But happy with it being a pickup and not everyone having it at all times. Customs - yes, fiesta chaos as it is - yes, ranked or social arena - hell no.

Yes for campaign idc. Throw whatever you want in there

For customs you should have options
Halo 5 options and infinites options. Overall you should just have more options

Yes. I’m mostly talking about ranked is where the equipment is the worse

I don’t see how the thruster, grapple, or repulsor would ever work as pickups. They would have to be treated as power ups. Put a grapple where OS would be or a thruster where rockets would be. Because as it stands right now even if they spawned you far away from the equipment it’s still on your side of the map or theirs. That sand desert map where you play capture the flag you have two grapples on each side. It doesn’t matter where you are on the map, wherever you spawn you will always be closer to either one or the other and you never spawn directly in the middle. Another example is streets. There is a thruster pack on the curved lane. If your team spawn on that side your team has access to the thruster. If the spawns flip then it’s the reverse but spawn flipping doesn’t always mean that one team is winning over the other. It could mean two trades just happened. To the “reward” for going and grabbing the pickup becomes less and less and the game goes on because of variables

You still drop the pickups upon death meaning spawn changing won’t do much when a dead body can be anywhere on the map.

They removed the automatics and prometans nades because they also bought variables to the table. To many variables. Just like I think the pickups are too many variables or Halo 4s loadouts are to many vairbles. I either want the same variables all around or as little as possible which is why i like Halo 2 AND Halo 5

I honestly don’t care much about that. It barely does anything

The thruster, grapple, repulsor are the huge game changers here.

I hate that blue electric ball tho. I HATE IT.

I answered this already, stop going around in circles, I’m getting dizzy.

No they didn’t, they changed splinter grenades to have less initial impact so they weren’t thrown as a last resort guaranteed kill but could still be used for area denial. Automatics were still on the map

You can’t have everyone having grapples. It’ll be absolutely ridiculous. Imagine CTF captures in 3 seconds by chaining grapples. Going from one side of the map to the other in 3 seconds - not one person that everyone else can counter but everyone going in different directions. Just ridiculous man

I Know but you still said change the spawn which won’t do anything

Ummm. They did. All automatics we’re removed from the maps AND you only started with a pistol.

Yes that change did come to those nades but guess what? They still removed them anyways later on. The current HCS settings for Halo 5 doesn’t feature the splinter nades. It hasn’t for a long time.

That’s true. Everyone having grapples would be crazy but guess what if someone has a grapple they can do the same exact thing you said which is why I don’t like it. I already encountered flag games where the grapple was the sole reason the team won the game.

People say " well what about rockets". Rockets can’t fling you across the map like a grapple does.

Idk man. I just don’t see it. Idk how anyone can see someone else having a different ability as “fun”. Whenever I use the thruster pack to juke someone and they don’t have one I feel scummy because if I were in his shoes I would be so frustrated that I didn’t have my own thrust. It’s also really frustrating when you know someone spawned on the ability after just dying and they get to jump right back into the action because they swung all the way over with the grapple. I just don’t see the appeal

I said change the spawn because you said you’ve gathered data suggesting you always spawn next to the grapple. I agree I always spawn next to the grapple. If you didn’t spawn next to the grapple it would make fighting for the grapple happen more often. You don’t spawn right next to OS in H5 for example unless last resort.

TBH I’m not sure about automatics now, but whatever - there were effin rockets!

Rockets can guarantee minimum 4 kills in social or 2 in competitive. Grapple can throw you 3 or 5 times. But can be easily countered, locked in animation, only able to deviate off of a straight line slightly, easy to shoot, immediately stop grappling if shoot.

Someone being invisible or extra shield gives them an edge same as grapple does.

It’s fun to use, but OP if unlimited and crazy if everyone had them. It’s the only option other than cutting it altogether.

All companies have some kind of continuous improvement model that is in place to make people feel like they are abiding by the core values. At the end of the day more are purely bound by revenue, the fancy plaques and amazing videos posted by people “living the company values of care” are just invested money into diverting your eyes away from the reality.

Its always about business and always about the bottom line, no matter what.

Just look at the “progressive” and “monitored” changes to the weekly quests. Now we see forced rank and for those who do not want to play ranked, they will use their swaps to find the “easier” ranked mode and play it just to get it done.

It is ALWAYS about money, there are exceptions but I doubt they are multi-million or billion dollars businesses, and if you are in a big company and you think its “core values” mean something, you are just not invite to the right meetings or not at the right level to see the truth.

Either accept the fact that nothing will stop the drive for revenue and play other games, or just deal with it and SLAY.

I’ve never seen such a detailed, well laid out post with examples and good points that I completely agree with that has absolutely nothing to do with the thread it is in. :wink:

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It’s not past that point already to you? You can hope for a special playlist and customs…but what we have today, wouldn’t you consider it already on the route?