343 I really hope you really put time into this section of the game, I know you are working with an upgraded Reach system but it really is something you need to have fully upgraded to make Halo 4 great.
In Reach I don’t know if Bungie got lazy with the netcode or what but it had a very bad host selection. There are so many games where it takes more then one try to find a decent host.
I find it so much fun to start a game in orange or red bar suffer through it for a few minutes just for it to finally change hosts to something a little bit more decent for it to then again change host to one that actually is good. Now how is it that it takes so long to find a decent host just for only half of the game to be good connection wise and maybe one or two people quitting because the connection was not worth staying?
It seems that the host selection goes down the list of the people and goes eh good enough and doesn’t bother checking the rest of the people to see if there is a better host.
Also it seems host selection in BTB favors people who are not in teams. In H3 and Reach ive had games of a party of 8 and party of 7 and that one person that went in solo was the one to pull host I know this because that solo person usually quits and always there is a black screen. Now im not sure if this is really just favor of solo then teams or maybe most BTB players get a tainted Host record. I would really like to see 343 address these issues fully.
Agreed. It’s rare that I get to play a game of Reach without a host migration and it’s extremely annoying.
Yeah I wish there was some way to reduce, or even possibly prevent, blackscreens.
> Yeah I wish there was some way to reduce, or even possibly prevent, blackscreens.
Soooooo many black screens in Reach.
Some other factors for poor game experience were:
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The black screens in Reach caused by anti-cheating methods e.g. standby or network manipulation causes host migration.
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Quitters who had host, seriously update the host selection to include a threshold from host quits, lag outs or host migrations away from their host.
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Including toggles for what gametypes and maps each player likes/dislikes would also help mitigate quitters and therefore reduce quitting, host migration and black screen. This would also maximise matching gamers with other gamers who like the same maps, speed up veto or make the selection preselect better etc.
> > Yeah I wish there was some way to reduce, or even possibly prevent, blackscreens.
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> Soooooo many black screens in Reach.
343 can get rid of black screens by choosing good hosts who don’t quit. Bungie netcode chose bad unstable hosts and those who constantly quit and shouldn’t get host if they do this nonstop.
> > > Yeah I wish there was some way to reduce, or even possibly prevent, blackscreens.
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> > Soooooo many black screens in Reach.
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> 343 can get rid of black screens by choosing good hosts who don’t quit. Bungie netcode chose bad unstable hosts and those who constantly quit and shouldn’t get host if they do this nonstop.
I would love the option to GIVE HOST to anyone in CUSTOM GAMES AND SPARTAN OPS only
Would make it so much smother -Maybe
> > Yeah I wish there was some way to reduce, or even possibly prevent, blackscreens.
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> Soooooo many black screens in Reach.
Hit detection was superb though.
> > > Yeah I wish there was some way to reduce, or even possibly prevent, blackscreens.
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> > Soooooo many black screens in Reach.
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> Hit detection was superb though.
No, it isn’t.
> > Yeah I wish there was some way to reduce, or even possibly prevent, blackscreens.
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> Soooooo many black screens in Reach.
yea, reachs netcode was way to sensetive to connection quality fluctuations …
One easy solution to be rid of black screens/host migration…
Dedicated Servers!
amirite?
> One easy solution to be rid of black screens/host migration…
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> Dedicated Servers!
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> amirite?
Yes and a lot of the Host cheating etc will allso be removed, so post in the Dedicated Servers thread for Halo 5-6 to support this.
https://forums.halo.xbox.com/yaf_postst36861_DEDICATED-SERVERS-H5-H6---SUPPORT-US.aspx
> > > > Yeah I wish there was some way to reduce, or even possibly prevent, blackscreens.
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> > > Soooooo many black screens in Reach.
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> > Hit detection was superb though.
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> No, it isn’t.
Yea it’s good when everyone is on the same side of a country, but when it’s west coast east coast with Texas and Canada people it turns pretty bad the netcode really needs to improved for hit detection to be good all the time.
> > One easy solution to be rid of black screens/host migration…
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> > Dedicated Servers!
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> > amirite?
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> Yes and a lot of the Host cheating etc will allso be removed, so post in the Dedicated Servers thread for Halo 5-6 to support this.
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> https://forums.halo.xbox.com/yaf_postst36861_DEDICATED-SERVERS-H5-H6---SUPPORT-US.aspx
Yeah that would be great although I don’t really see 343i doing that BUT WE CAN HOPE for later titles to have them
Many new games have some kind of decided server
Only time will tell
> > > One easy solution to be rid of black screens/host migration…
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> > > Dedicated Servers!
> > >
> > > amirite?
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> > Yes and a lot of the Host cheating etc will allso be removed, so post in the Dedicated Servers thread for Halo 5-6 to support this.
> >
> > https://forums.halo.xbox.com/yaf_postst36861_DEDICATED-SERVERS-H5-H6---SUPPORT-US.aspx
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> Yeah that would be great although I don’t really see 343i doing that BUT WE CAN HOPE for later titles to have them
>
> Many new games have some kind of decided server
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> Only time will tell
Yea to late for 4, we need to just convince 343 to put it into work for 5-6. Though im not sure if it would have worked considering there using everything from Reach. I really hope they polish this as much as possible or at least make it so the netcode can be updated after the game is released.
I just hope 343i is doing the company wide testing over xbox and across the county to see what happens when a bad host is chosen …
Reach’s netcode was better then Halo 3’s by quite a bit .
All we can do is hope …
if anything they need to learn from CoD, it’s their perfected Host Migration.
I fear for Halo 4’s MM with JIP enabled, lots of black screen will happen.
> if anything they need to learn from CoD, it’s their perfected Host Migration.
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> <mark>I fear for Halo 4’s MM with JIP enabled, lots of black screen will happen</mark>.
Im happy about JIP
Im not happy about millions of Black screens
I know that Ghost Recon FS picks the best host if the game gets too laggy for the start if someone joins in. There are still problems with their servers though. Dedicated servers would be the best. Section 8 prejudice has dedicated servers and I have never once experience lag or host migration.