Hope the BR got the Buff it Deserves.

Just hope the BR gets the buff it needs from the e3 build. I wouldnt care how they did it. Increased rate of fire or going back to 4sk. Just hope it doesnt have a low kill time like it had before and its “brother” the Light Rifle doesn’t shallow it alongside with the DMR and Carbine.

BTW, still stoked about the game! :slight_smile:

It would be nice if it got a little buff. Although, the gameplay so far with the BR doesn’t look that bad either. A 4sk would be nice though.

It doesn’t deserve one. Nor does it need one.

As long as the fundamental mechanics of the DMR don’t change, then if possible, I’m going to be using a combo of DMR & BR.

Now I’m not sure how the damage from the DMR and the BR stack up, I’ve never seen a video that allows you to compare just those two weapons side-by-side.

Maybe we won’t be able to until H4 drops, but it would be interesting to know.

Also interesting to know would be how fast is the kill time for the H4 BR when compared to the H3 BR? I’ve love to see the math/physics wizards on this site take that one on. I’m pretty sure the answer would be very entertaining.

nope but dmr got a nerf it now has 14 rounds in a clip so only 2 kills per clip

> nope but dmr got a nerf it now has 14 rounds in a clip so only 2 kills per clip

Carbine also got a nerf. 343 is going about this exactly the wrong way.

BR needs either 4sk or have a faster ROF. IMO nerfing the guns and giving out slower killtimes is not the way to go.

> > nope but dmr got a nerf it now has 14 rounds in a clip so only 2 kills per clip
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> Carbine also got a nerf. 343 is going about this exactly the wrong way.

Agreed.

> > nope but dmr got a nerf it now has 14 rounds in a clip so only 2 kills per clip
>
> Carbine also got a nerf. 343 is going about this exactly the wrong way.

But why?

Carbine was al-right in multiplayer

> > > nope but dmr got a nerf it now has 14 rounds in a clip so only 2 kills per clip
> >
> > Carbine also got a nerf. 343 is going about this exactly the wrong way.
>
> But why?
>
> Carbine was al-right in multiplayer

Probably ROF. It did have the fastest kill time of the 3.

E3 build wasn’t final. And they’ve already changed certain things.

Still not sure why the BR needs a buff. It’s on par with the DMR except for long-range fights. In mid range, it already has a buff: it’s got a 3-shot burst, making it much easier to land the headshot with.

If you really think it should compete with the DMR at long range… I don’t know what to say… I honestly hope that we do not have 4 different weapons that are all exactly the same.

> Still not sure why the BR needs a buff. It’s on par with the DMR except for long-range fights. In mid range, it already has a buff: it’s got a 3-shot burst, making it much easier to land the headshot with.
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> If you really think it should compete with the DMR at long range… I don’t know what to say… I honestly hope that we do not have 4 different weapons that are all exactly the same.

There have been people saying that the DMR tends to beat the BR at mid range which is a big no-no. some people like myself want the BR to be buffed not to restore an ounce of nostalgia but to make sure it fits into the sandbox properly AKA not lose a mid-range battle (the range it should be good at) to a long-range weapon

From the unsc weapons video, it looked like it shoots pretty faster. Also, the DMR is 1 bullet shorter, and can’t kill 3 people without help.

Still looking forward to using everything though.

> > Still not sure why the BR needs a buff. It’s on par with the DMR except for long-range fights. In mid range, it already has a buff: it’s got a 3-shot burst, making it much easier to land the headshot with.
> >
> > If you really think it should compete with the DMR at long range… I don’t know what to say… I honestly hope that we do not have 4 different weapons that are all exactly the same.
>
> There have been people saying that the DMR tends to beat the BR at mid range which is a big no-no. some people like myself want the BR to be buffed not to restore an ounce of nostalgia but to make sure it fits into the sandbox properly AKA not lose a mid-range battle (the range it should be good at) to a long-range weapon

Well, at the same time, I would feel kinda bummed if the DMR was then only good at long range… it would kinda put the BR as the end-all dominant weapon again. I believe that they should be on par as far as damage and speed goes, making them equivalent, but giving the slight edge to the BR in that it has the 3-shot burst to finish the headshot.

> > > Still not sure why the BR needs a buff. It’s on par with the DMR except for long-range fights. In mid range, it already has a buff: it’s got a 3-shot burst, making it much easier to land the headshot with.
> > >
> > > If you really think it should compete with the DMR at long range… I don’t know what to say… I honestly hope that we do not have 4 different weapons that are all exactly the same.
> >
> > There have been people saying that the DMR tends to beat the BR at mid range which is a big no-no. some people like myself want the BR to be buffed not to restore an ounce of nostalgia but to make sure it fits into the sandbox properly AKA not lose a mid-range battle (the range it should be good at) to a long-range weapon
>
> Well, at the same time, I would feel kinda bummed if the DMR was then only good at long range… it would kinda put the BR as the end-all dominant weapon again. I believe that they should be on par as far as damage and speed goes, making them equivalent, but giving the slight edge to the BR in that it has the 3-shot burst to finish the headshot.

Actually, the 3-shot burst is what helps keep it from being good at all ranges thanks to the recoil effect on the gun. If they tune the recoil right, the BR can’t be great at long ranges simply because its bullets are missing.

The BR should stay the way it is.

> > > > nope but dmr got a nerf it now has 14 rounds in a clip so only 2 kills per clip
> > >
> > > Carbine also got a nerf. 343 is going about this exactly the wrong way.
> >
> > But why?
> >
> > Carbine was al-right in multiplayer
>
> Probably ROF. It did have the fastest kill time of the 3.

I would bet on ODST style recoil than anything else. Since the BR has spread and recoil and the DMR has bloom, I would imagine the Carbine would get something as well, hopefully.

Anyways the way 343 is going about things I understand where they are going. 5shot BR/‘12’ shot magazine, 7 shot Carbine/16round mag?, 5 shot DMR/14round mag, and I would bet a 6 shot Light Rifle/15round mag Even the AR looks to be able to get 2 kills per mag.

Still the main issue with the BR is its slower killtime than anything else. It is noticeable slower compared to the Carbine and DMR. A 6 shot Light Rifle with a slightly higher rof than the DMR would likely make it competitive with the other two.

The BR just seems like the odd one out. Inferior range and DPS compared to the others and I don’t understand why people don’t have issues with that.

At this point, I don’t care what they do to it. I will try it, but most likely leave it alone for another gun. Loo Looks like the light rifle will up it anyways.

BR needs more skill then DMR. Why they cant make BR from halo 2/3 4sk and no-bloom DMR from reach(mlg playlist). Thay have similar kill time. It’s will be balanced. 5sk is to slow, thats bad for halo gameplay imo.