Putting how long it might be until we actually get forge aside, do you guys have high hopes for it? If not, what are your concerns about it?
Iām hopeful about what it will be capable of doing- all indications are that it will be staggering even compared to H5ās impressive Forge mode.
That said, Iām personally very concerned about accessibility in terms of it being user-friendly for casual and new players to use. H5ās Forge, for all its enhanced capability, was a dramatic leap backwards regarding its UX and accessability IMO.
Also Iām very skeptical that weāll see Forge this year. 343i has squarely earned a reputation for delivering the goods considerably later than theyāre initially promised.
Forge will honestly make or break this game for me. The gameplay is fun, and the style is good, but the pace of new content just isnāt good enough for a live service so far. Forge if done correctly can help remedy a huge chunk of this issue, and if the improvements from H2A to H5 are any indication, hopefully the improvements and refinements from H5 to Infinite will allow for a swath of good community content to extend the game. I bet thereāll even be some forge remakes too, especially if a lot of the talented H5 forgers return.
BUT, Iām terrified that it will either not work correctly and thus require a long time to fix it, or they will find a way to monetize some aspect of Forge, the latter of which would probably result in me giving up all hope for Halo (which is already getting pretty miniscule to me). Additionally, if Forge takes too long to get here then I worry there might not be enough people to really help it explode.
I hope Forgeās release will cause some sort of miracle recovery for Infinite, but Iām not entirely convinced that it will magically save the day. It will definitely give players a little something to look forward too, but itās not like these maps/game modes are going to just start rolling out like a production line. 343 is going to put a limit on it and regulate it for the ā10 year plan.ā If you canāt find or donāt play private custom games regularly then a large majority of Forge-created content will go unnoticed by those players until 343 incorporates them into the official Matchmaking process.
Without a server browser it would be a waste or dead in the water, especially considering the lack of post and pregame lobby to make friends in. Unless I see AI in this forge, I feel it is just going to disappoint me like the rest of the game.
343 has always handled forge well. They just need to work on the controls for it.
Both at this point ![]()
The Dev showcases of āforgeā tools they used to build the campaign are exciting to see but the the actual flexibility for the player doesnāt seem to be entirely realized yet, judging by the leaked forge flight footage out there.
Terrain tools specifically are what Iām referring to since there has never been a real way to generate or alter terrain on a map, unless using old tools from back in the day. (Sapien, Ect.)
With H5ās forge, weāre given sets of appropriately textured terrain primitives to help generate abstract shapes and geometry, group it, then place it. This wasnāt a bad approach, just time consuming while on a gamepad, coupled with the scavenger hunt for the right primitives in that over crowded items list. If they let us trace/draw/paintbrush terrain, Iād be so happyā¦so many warthog racesā¦![]()
Rest in peace far cry map creation kits, you had the best terrain editing. Rest in peace doom 2016 map creation kit, you had the best (most difficult) scripting.
I hope it will have two modes: Beginner and advanced. Beginner for people like me who just want to spawn in some warthogs and guns, and advanced for the giant maps that are dev quality
Iām not a Forge player (unless you count putting every vehicle in a pile and blowing it up lol) but I do hope everything is free and there is no premium items. or if anything they do something like Space Engineers and give new free stuff as well as premium stuff, which I still hope doesnt happen.
also I hope scriptable AI is in the game. like imagine we could spawn an elite in and heās non-hostile and kind of like an npc. or prefab an elite to have some funky looking armor (like imagine you could shrink down some warthogs and make shoulder pads for him and a helmā¦and call him the Wort-hog XD)
given 343ās lack luster launch of everything⦠i doubt itāl be good, i have very low hopes for it. itāl be buggy, maybe laggy, the maps will just be the base trash maps with no forge world⦠and dare i say possibly monetized given that it is a āfree to play modelā so obviously that means milk everything for money. or even very little items to use in forge⦠so thusly, i believe forge will be dissapointing like everything else in this game.
So much hope.
Forge in Halo 5 was superb. And if we get even a small generational leap into Infinite - yay!, weāre in for a treat.
Hopefully itās powerful enough that it will be a lot harder to tell a Forge map from a developer made one.
And Iām particularly interested in the scripting. Halo 5 was excellent again - but we just need a few minor things to open it up. The ability to act on the killer (not just the victim) and being able to change teams / weapons / equipment on the fly. So many game types could be opened up for exploration.
Hopeful. Itās one of the areas that theyāve got to nail down.
Not getting hopes up 343 has shown their ability to false advertise time and time again
Forge isnāt too if of a deal for me, but I have made a couple maps in it before, and it is fun. Also a pretty huge part of Halo. Iām hopeful, really all Iād like is just faster and less complicated ways to make maps but, theyāve got that down pretty good already. I just want everyone to be happy. lol