I honestly think that 343i is working and developing either a ranking system or playlist to implement post launch. After what Frankie said on NeoGaf about how they werent done making it and then hearing David Ellis quote “Currently ranks are invisible to players” this really gives me some kinda hope.
As a community I believe we should keep making these ranking threads just to show 343i that we deserve at least playlist. I mean one playlist will not alienate the rest of the players. heres the deal, if you care/want to play ranked hop in the playlist and do it. If not, then dont play that playlist. I dont even care if other players cant see my rank, just give me something to skillfully work toward instead of grinding for a helmet and armor skin. Its that simple. Some people care about a number or rank, some dont. Please both crowds dont just assume that the majority doesnt care at all. Some of us do some of us dont, plain and simple.
It’s a lot more than 1% of the community who wants this feature. Please read this 343i.
> I think you are right bro!
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> I hope you are right or so many players will shift to COD and their new skill based Visable ranking system.
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> The MP game play looks really cool!
I swear, is this the same guy as the other users5464464564646464 ? Because you have been doing that for quiet a while. Talking about Children Online Daycare all day.
first of all, its relatively easy to add a “playlist” and you have no way of knowing if 343 is reading this. Why is everything set in stone with you guys on here. So yeah its confirmed that we dont necessarily have a ranking system, that doesnt mean that they cant or wont implement one or just simply a ranked playlist.
> > I think you are right bro!
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> > I hope you are right or so many players will shift to COD and their new skill based Visable ranking system.
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> > The MP game play looks really cool!
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> I swear, is this the same guy as the other users5464464564646464 ? Because you have been doing that for quiet a while. Talking about Children Online Daycare all day.
OHHHH I am sooooo sorry that my 348738947298374 offends you…
> first of all, its relatively easy to add a “playlist” and you have no way of knowing if 343 is reading this. Why is everything set in stone with you guys on here. So yeah its confirmed that we dont necessarily have a ranking system, that doesnt mean that they cant or wont implement one or just simply a ranked playlist.
Well there’s confirmed information, and then there’s common sense. There won’t be a 1-50 rank system, and there’s no reason to assume they’ll implement one later. You’re just setting yourself up for disappointment .
> > David Ellis worded the response horribly, there is no skill-based ranks, you will be matching players based on TrueSkill, just like Halo 3 social.
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> Who are we to say that he didn’t word it like that on purpose?
With an issue as controversial as a ranking system 343i would be wise with choosing their words just like they have been with mostly everything else. David Ellis literally said that players “CURRENTLY” cannot see their ranks. Straight from the dudes mouth. I dont care about what you other guys think, I take those words with much hope. I think 343i isnt stupid. They’ve proven themselves in every aspect that they can make the best halo experience to date, they have just fallen a bit short in terms of a ranking system. I think they are still working on something and I will stick with that opinion.
tsquared who is very plugged in to all things Halo even said the same exact thing.
> > first of all, its relatively easy to add a “playlist” and you have no way of knowing if 343 is reading this. Why is everything set in stone with you guys on here. So yeah its confirmed that we dont necessarily have a ranking system, that doesnt mean that they cant or wont implement one or just simply a ranked playlist.
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> Well there’s confirmed information, and then there’s common sense. There won’t be a 1-50 rank system, and there’s no reason to assume they’ll implement one later. You’re just setting yourself up for disappointment .
Well…To bad I didnt even mention 1-50, we all know it isnt coming back. You totally dont understand any aspect of what Im saying, and therefore look incredibly ignorant so please just leave this thread.
Lol Moa… That say nothing except they are still working on it… So is short Franky said that the 1% who want visable ranks only really care about the effect of creating equal matches. At no point does he say there will not be a skill based ranking system in Halo 4. By Skill Based I mean visable.
So you applied your opinion into his posts.
Back to this thread… Yes there is still hope for the competitive community.
I personally think we will see an Arena based ranking system applied shortly after release.
“Sores have strict date contracts including a big orange seal they have to break.imagine a movie theater doing this, only worse because we have services we’re still fiddling with”
This was regarding someone legally purchasing the game early. Could this mean something? Who knows.
Also, if you think about it. Lots of the un released playlists are the typically ranked ones:
So maybe there is still hope. Although I’m not getting myself too worked up.
Also. For the people that say the hidden Trueskill will work better than Reach. I strongly beg to differ.
I for one will not try as hard when my rank is not on the line. If I am halfway through a game and want a drink or food. if i dont get the map or the gametype i want i will probably quit. I’m not going to care about the status of my game because it’s meaningless to me.
And by Trueskill nature. Because I consistently loose some matches I will never rank up to where I should be. Which is diluting skill levels and in the games I do try I will be stomping on others. Exactly like Reach. There is no fix for this, it’s human nature.
And I don’t think I will be the only one, it was very prevalent in Reach.
> Also, I found these on neoGAF a few days ago:
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> “Sores have strict date contracts including a big orange seal they have to break.imagine a movie theater doing this, only worse because we have services we’re still fiddling with”
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> This was regarding someone legally purchasing the game early. Could this mean something? Who knows.
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> Also, if you think about it. Lots of the un released playlists are the typically ranked ones:
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> *Team Snipers (Confirmed)
> *Team Swat (Confirmed)
> *Team Doubles
> *MLG (Partial Confirmation)
> *FFA
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> So maybe there is still hope. Although I’m not getting myself too worked up.
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> Also. For the people that say the hidden Trueskill will work better than Reach. I strongly beg to differ.
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> I for one will not try as hard when my rank is not on the line. If I am halfway through a game and want a drink or food. if i dont get the map or the gametype i want i will probably quit. I’m not going to care about the status of my game because it’s meaningless to me.
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> And by Trueskill nature. Because I consistently loose some matches I will never rank up to where I should be. Which is diluting skill levels and in the games I do try I will be stomping on others. Exactly like Reach. There is no fix for this, it’s human nature.
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> And I don’t think I will be the only one, it was very prevalent in Reach.
you may have something there. Do you have the link dude?
My hope/thinking is that the rankings will come out within the first month of the game coming out. Any later will be a little bit of an issue. I am still holding out some hope until I see a confirmation from 343i that it will not happen. They have been too dodgy to assume it will not happen at some point.