Faster movement speed…Check
Higher jump height…Check
No health system…Check
No fall damage…Check?
BR…Check
Brighter, more colorful graphics…Check
New enemy…Check
More weapons than ever…Check
No bloom…Check
Multiplayer specific maps…Check
Better story…Check
Now, Halo Community, stop acting like ungrateful -Yoink- and wait before you flame features you haven’t seen yet.
343i, thank you for listening.
I never been hating the game before so…
Anyways, grate to see some pople not hatin´
It’s rare to see a thread not bashing Halo 4 so for that i thank you.
Pumped lets go
343
hopping halo 4 is great
Just to be clear, that list isn’t what I want, it’s what I’ve seen the community wants in a flood of posts before the game was revealed. I wasn’t in love with the BR like most were (I do like it, though). But they will never say thank you for giving us the BR. They will never be satisfied.
Sprint…Check
Loadouts…Check
Perks…Check
Those 3 affect the game more than your entire list. 343 might be listening to what we want, but they sure as hell aren’t listening to what we don’t want.
> Sprint…Check
> Loadouts…Check
> Perks…Check
>
>
> Those 3 affect the game more than your entire list. 343 might be listening to what we want, but they sure as hell aren’t listening to what we don’t want.
So, explain to me what you know of these ‘perks.’
I’m serious, I see many people bashing the idea of perks when they literally have idea of what they are or are about. Not t omention that ‘perks’ has only been used by the MEDIA, and not 343.
You also have no clue as to how the loadouts will function this time around, and you also have no idea of how the Sprint mechanic will turn out.
Knee jerking responses to things stated or things shown in less than 30 seconds of gameplay are foolish.
You DO NOT know how any of this will be implemented, nor have you even seen enough to judge.
So, on behalf of the calmer side of the community. Cool your damn jets until you have enough information to toss an idea out the door.
I’m getting sick of the bashing of a game that people know next to nothing about. You can’t judge or say much of anything until you have some form of information to back-up your argument. You don’t know how anything will work, and you also don’t know what was meant by the word ‘perks.’ Therefore you have no idea as to how it will ‘affect game play.’ Also, once more ‘perks’ has never been used by 343 to my knowledge.
So for the love of all that is sane, stop making god -Yoink!- assumptions and actually wait until you have enough information to make an intelligible decision as to whether or not the game will be ‘bad’ or not.
All of this negativity is completely ridiculous, and utterly unnecessary.
> > Sprint…Check
> > Loadouts…Check
> > Perks…Check
> >
> >
> > Those 3 affect the game more than your entire list. 343 might be listening to what we want, but they sure as hell aren’t listening to what we don’t want.
>
> So, explain to me what you know of these ‘perks.’
>
> I’m serious, I see many people bashing the idea of perks when they literally have idea of what they are or are about. No body has even gone as far enough to explain what they meant when they said ‘perks’ in the Vidoc.
>
> You also have no clue as to how the loadouts will function this time around, and you also have no idea of how the Sprint mechanic will turn out.
>
> Knee jerking responses to things stated or things shown in less than 30 seconds of gameplay are foolish.
>
> You DO NOT know how any of this will be implemented, nor have you even seen enough to judge.
>
> So, on behalf of the calmer side of the community. Cool your damn jets until you have enough information to toss an idea out the door.
>
> I’m getting sick of the bashing of a game that people know next to nothing about. You can’t judge or say much of anything until you have some form of information to back-up your argument. You don’t know how anything will work, and you also don’t know what was meant by the word ‘perks.’ Therefore you have no idea as to how it will ‘effect game play.’
>
> So for the love of all that is sane, stop making god -Yoink!- assumptions and actually wait until you have enough information to make an intelligible decision as to whether or not the game will be ‘bad’ or not.
>
> All of this negativity is completely ridiculous, and utterly unnecessary.
Armor that affects gameplay…What the hell else do I need to know about perks than that?
It doesn’t matter how any of it is implemented, because even if it is flawless, it isn’t Halo.
> > > Sprint…Check
> > > Loadouts…Check
> > > Perks…Check
> > >
> > >
> > > Those 3 affect the game more than your entire list. 343 might be listening to what we want, but they sure as hell aren’t listening to what we don’t want.
> >
> > So, explain to me what you know of these ‘perks.’
> >
> > I’m serious, I see many people bashing the idea of perks when they literally have idea of what they are or are about. No body has even gone as far enough to explain what they meant when they said ‘perks’ in the Vidoc.
> >
> > You also have no clue as to how the loadouts will function this time around, and you also have no idea of how the Sprint mechanic will turn out.
> >
> > Knee jerking responses to things stated or things shown in less than 30 seconds of gameplay are foolish.
> >
> > You DO NOT know how any of this will be implemented, nor have you even seen enough to judge.
> >
> > So, on behalf of the calmer side of the community. Cool your damn jets until you have enough information to toss an idea out the door.
> >
> > I’m getting sick of the bashing of a game that people know next to nothing about. You can’t judge or say much of anything until you have some form of information to back-up your argument. You don’t know how anything will work, and you also don’t know what was meant by the word ‘perks.’ Therefore you have no idea as to how it will ‘effect game play.’
> >
> > So for the love of all that is sane, stop making god -Yoink!- assumptions and actually wait until you have enough information to make an intelligible decision as to whether or not the game will be ‘bad’ or not.
> >
> > All of this negativity is completely ridiculous, and utterly unnecessary.
>
> Armor that affects gameplay…What the hell else do I need to know about perks than that?
>
> It doesn’t matter how any of it is implemented, because even if it is flawless, it isn’t Halo.
It’s like talking to a -Yoink!- water wheel, I fold. I always wind up seeing the same arguments to any form of pro-Halo 4 post. It’s not worth it, have fun not getting the game if you so choose.
Have fun making complaints and knee-jerking decisions about something you know next to nothing about.
On an off note, I’m still waiting for someone to tell me what makes Halo ‘Halo.’ Because the people who make this statement so clearly know what makes a game a game.
-__-
> > > > Sprint…Check
> > > > Loadouts…Check
> > > > Perks…Check
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Those 3 affect the game more than your entire list. 343 might be listening to what we want, but they sure as hell aren’t listening to what we don’t want.
> > >
> > > So, explain to me what you know of these ‘perks.’
> > >
> > > I’m serious, I see many people bashing the idea of perks when they literally have idea of what they are or are about. No body has even gone as far enough to explain what they meant when they said ‘perks’ in the Vidoc.
> > >
> > > You also have no clue as to how the loadouts will function this time around, and you also have no idea of how the Sprint mechanic will turn out.
> > >
> > > Knee jerking responses to things stated or things shown in less than 30 seconds of gameplay are foolish.
> > >
> > > You DO NOT know how any of this will be implemented, nor have you even seen enough to judge.
> > >
> > > So, on behalf of the calmer side of the community. Cool your damn jets until you have enough information to toss an idea out the door.
> > >
> > > I’m getting sick of the bashing of a game that people know next to nothing about. You can’t judge or say much of anything until you have some form of information to back-up your argument. You don’t know how anything will work, and you also don’t know what was meant by the word ‘perks.’ Therefore you have no idea as to how it will ‘effect game play.’
> > >
> > > So for the love of all that is sane, stop making god -Yoink!- assumptions and actually wait until you have enough information to make an intelligible decision as to whether or not the game will be ‘bad’ or not.
> > >
> > > All of this negativity is completely ridiculous, and utterly unnecessary.
> >
> > Armor that affects gameplay…What the hell else do I need to know about perks than that?
> >
> > It doesn’t matter how any of it is implemented, because even if it is flawless, it isn’t Halo.
>
> It’s like talking to a -Yoink!- water wheel, I fold. I always wind up seeing the same arguments to any form of pro-Halo 4 post. It’s not worth it, have fun not getting the game if you so choose.
>
> Have fun making complaints and knee-jerking decisions about something you know next to nothing about.
>
> On an off note, I’m still waiting for someone to tell me what makes Halo ‘Halo.’ Because the people who make this statement so clearly know what makes a game a game.
>
> -__-
I’ll tell you exactly what makes Halo Halo, from a gameplay perspective. They are elements that have been around in shooters since their creation, and they are the elements that make one shooter different from another shooter.
-Weapons and power-up on the map
-Recharging shield system with health underneath
-Equal player spawns every time
These are key elements that DEFINE Halo. What the hell else makes up the differences in Halo in terms of gameplay. Obviously Halo is different from CoD, and it isn’t Fing rocket science to figure out what makes up those differences. The three I have listed are not the only elements by a long shot, but they are 3 huge ones that remained throughout Halo 1 2 and 3, and 343 is changing TWO of them.
Why don’t you go play BF, CoD, MoH, CS:S, GoW, etc…and tell me yourself what the defines Halo. It’s not that hard especially when you have played 33,000 games of Halo.
> > > > > Sprint…Check
> > > > > Loadouts…Check
> > > > > Perks…Check
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Those 3 affect the game more than your entire list. 343 might be listening to what we want, but they sure as hell aren’t listening to what we don’t want.
> > > >
> > > > So, explain to me what you know of these ‘perks.’
> > > >
> > > > I’m serious, I see many people bashing the idea of perks when they literally have idea of what they are or are about. No body has even gone as far enough to explain what they meant when they said ‘perks’ in the Vidoc.
> > > >
> > > > You also have no clue as to how the loadouts will function this time around, and you also have no idea of how the Sprint mechanic will turn out.
> > > >
> > > > Knee jerking responses to things stated or things shown in less than 30 seconds of gameplay are foolish.
> > > >
> > > > You DO NOT know how any of this will be implemented, nor have you even seen enough to judge.
> > > >
> > > > So, on behalf of the calmer side of the community. Cool your damn jets until you have enough information to toss an idea out the door.
> > > >
> > > > I’m getting sick of the bashing of a game that people know next to nothing about. You can’t judge or say much of anything until you have some form of information to back-up your argument. You don’t know how anything will work, and you also don’t know what was meant by the word ‘perks.’ Therefore you have no idea as to how it will ‘effect game play.’
> > > >
> > > > So for the love of all that is sane, stop making god -Yoink!- assumptions and actually wait until you have enough information to make an intelligible decision as to whether or not the game will be ‘bad’ or not.
> > > >
> > > > All of this negativity is completely ridiculous, and utterly unnecessary.
> > >
> > > Armor that affects gameplay…What the hell else do I need to know about perks than that?
> > >
> > > It doesn’t matter how any of it is implemented, because even if it is flawless, it isn’t Halo.
> >
> > It’s like talking to a -Yoink!- water wheel, I fold. I always wind up seeing the same arguments to any form of pro-Halo 4 post. It’s not worth it, have fun not getting the game if you so choose.
> >
> > Have fun making complaints and knee-jerking decisions about something you know next to nothing about.
> >
> > On an off note, I’m still waiting for someone to tell me what makes Halo ‘Halo.’ Because the people who make this statement so clearly know what makes a game a game.
> >
> > -__-
>
> I’ll tell you exactly what makes Halo Halo, from a gameplay perspective. They are elements that have been around in shooters since their creation, and they are the elements that make one shooter different from another shooter.
>
> -Weapons and power-up on the map
> -Recharging shield system with health underneath
> -Equal player spawns every time
>
> These are key elements that DEFINE Halo. What the hell else makes up the differences in Halo in terms of gameplay. Obviously Halo is different from CoD, and it isn’t Fing rocket science to figure out what makes up those differences. The three I have listed are not the only elements by a long shot, but they are 3 huge ones that remained throughout Halo 1 2 and 3, and 343 is changing TWO of them.
>
>
> Why don’t you go play BF, CoD, MoH, CS:S, GoW, etc…and tell me yourself what the defines Halo. It’s not that hard especially when you have played 33,000 games of Halo.
I’ve played every game that you’ve listed, bro. And I can tell you what makes them different from my perspective.
-Halo has longer kill times, and other than Gears of War is the only one of these that is a tournament style shooter where you fight for your weapons. I will agree, the shielding system does make part of the game.
-Halo has to be played from a more strategic point, no just running out with your ultra fast gun or Gnasher to slaughter the masses. Halo isn’t a mindless killer like most of the games you have listed.
-Halo puts you in the shoes of a super soldier and gives you a whole mess of unique weapons that could never compare to the weapons given to you by the other games listed. Well, aside from Gears I suppose which has some pretty creative and unique weapons.
-Aside from Gears, all of the other games have a dull campaign in my eyes. Most of them seem to be knock offs of Tom Clancy novels and your typical military movie. Halo has an incredibly involving story that trumps even some of the better RPGs out there.
-Halo has an astounding, incredibly expansive universe. None of the other games can claim the same.
-Halo starts everyone on even ground. Say what you will, even with different load outs you can use them as well. This means, you are on even ground.
-Halo has Custom Games, and intense flexibility with its in game options. Halo is really, other than Gears the only game that allows you to make epic game types such as Grifball and so on.
Those are what make Halo, Halo to me. Those are what define it.
So far, I don’t see ANY Evidence showing that 343 is removing any of these elements. There is simply not enough information on Halo 4 available to make such claims. I’m simply asking for everyone to calm the -Yoink- down and wait until there is enough information available to support their claims.
> > > > > > Sprint…Check
> > > > > > Loadouts…Check
> > > > > > Perks…Check
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Those 3 affect the game more than your entire list. 343 might be listening to what we want, but they sure as hell aren’t listening to what we don’t want.
> > > > >
> > > > > So, explain to me what you know of these ‘perks.’
> > > > >
> > > > > I’m serious, I see many people bashing the idea of perks when they literally have idea of what they are or are about. No body has even gone as far enough to explain what they meant when they said ‘perks’ in the Vidoc.
> > > > >
> > > > > You also have no clue as to how the loadouts will function this time around, and you also have no idea of how the Sprint mechanic will turn out.
> > > > >
> > > > > Knee jerking responses to things stated or things shown in less than 30 seconds of gameplay are foolish.
> > > > >
> > > > > You DO NOT know how any of this will be implemented, nor have you even seen enough to judge.
> > > > >
> > > > > So, on behalf of the calmer side of the community. Cool your damn jets until you have enough information to toss an idea out the door.
> > > > >
> > > > > I’m getting sick of the bashing of a game that people know next to nothing about. You can’t judge or say much of anything until you have some form of information to back-up your argument. You don’t know how anything will work, and you also don’t know what was meant by the word ‘perks.’ Therefore you have no idea as to how it will ‘effect game play.’
> > > > >
> > > > > So for the love of all that is sane, stop making god -Yoink!- assumptions and actually wait until you have enough information to make an intelligible decision as to whether or not the game will be ‘bad’ or not.
> > > > >
> > > > > All of this negativity is completely ridiculous, and utterly unnecessary.
> > > >
> > > > Armor that affects gameplay…What the hell else do I need to know about perks than that?
> > > >
> > > > It doesn’t matter how any of it is implemented, because even if it is flawless, it isn’t Halo.
> > >
> > > It’s like talking to a -Yoink!- water wheel, I fold. I always wind up seeing the same arguments to any form of pro-Halo 4 post. It’s not worth it, have fun not getting the game if you so choose.
> > >
> > > Have fun making complaints and knee-jerking decisions about something you know next to nothing about.
> > >
> > > On an off note, I’m still waiting for someone to tell me what makes Halo ‘Halo.’ Because the people who make this statement so clearly know what makes a game a game.
> > >
> > > -__-
> >
> > I’ll tell you exactly what makes Halo Halo, from a gameplay perspective. They are elements that have been around in shooters since their creation, and they are the elements that make one shooter different from another shooter.
> >
> > -Weapons and power-up on the map
> > -Recharging shield system with health underneath
> > -Equal player spawns every time
> >
> > These are key elements that DEFINE Halo. What the hell else makes up the differences in Halo in terms of gameplay. Obviously Halo is different from CoD, and it isn’t Fing rocket science to figure out what makes up those differences. The three I have listed are not the only elements by a long shot, but they are 3 huge ones that remained throughout Halo 1 2 and 3, and 343 is changing TWO of them.
> >
> >
> > Why don’t you go play BF, CoD, MoH, CS:S, GoW, etc…and tell me yourself what the defines Halo. It’s not that hard especially when you have played 33,000 games of Halo.
>
> I’ve played every game that you’ve listed, bro. And I can tell you what makes them different from my perspective.
>
> -Halo has longer kill times, and other than Gears of War is the only one of these that is a tournament style shooter where you fight for your weapons. I will agree, the shielding system
>
> -Halo has to be played from a more strategic point, no just running out with your ultra fast gun or Gnasher to slaughter the masses. Halo isn’t a mindless killer like most of the games you have listed.
>
> -Halo puts you in the shoes of a super soldier and gives you a whole mess of unique weapons that could never compare to the weapons given to you by the other games listed. Well, aside from Gears I suppose which has some pretty creative and unique weapons.
>
> -Aside from Gears, all of the other games have a dull campaign in my eyes. Most of them seem to be knock offs of Tom Clancy novels and your typical military movie. Halo has an incredibly involving story that trumps even some of the better RPGs out there.
>
> -Halo has an astounding, incredibly expansive universe. None of the other games can claim the same.
>
> -<mark>Halo starts everyone on even ground. Say what you will, even with different load outs you can use them as well. This means, you are on even ground.</mark>
>
> -Halo has Custom Games, and intense flexibility with its in game options. Halo is really, other than Gears the only game that allows you to make epic game types such as Grifball and so on.
>
> Those are what make Halo, Halo to me. Those are what define it.
>
> So far, I don’t see ANY Evidence showing that 343 is removing any of these elements. There is simply not enough information on Halo 4 available to make such claims. I’m simply asking for everyone to calm the -Yoink!- down and wait until there is enough information available to support their claims.
So you don’t think having the weapon on the map is a huge difference in Halo from other shooters?
As for the highlighted: No it absolutely does not mean you are on even ground. That is the whole deal with class based shooters vs starting weapon shooters. Just because you can choose the same options from a menu, does NOT mean you are on equal ground when you spawn. And regardless, there is a massive difference between being able to choose your starting weapon and having it set for you every spawn. So whether you agree or disagree that you are on “equal ground” with both, there is no denying that loadouts is not the same as no loadouts.
Furthermore, what if 343 decided to get rid of Halo’s custom game options, or decided to make all the weapons based on real life military weapons, or had kill times as fast a CoD?
Would you be OK with that?
I will be fine if they put 1-50 in h4.
> I will be fine if they put 1-50 in h4.
OLD HALO > Newish Halo
But all in all i think 343 will do us right in H4
> So you don’t think having the weapon on the map is a huge difference in Halo from other shooters?
>
> As for the highlighted: No it absolutely does not mean you are on even ground. That is the whole deal with class based shooters vs starting weapon shooters. Just because you can choose the same options from a menu, does NOT mean you are on equal ground when you spawn. And regardless, there is a massive difference between being able to choose your starting weapon and having it set for you every spawn. So whether you agree or disagree that you are on “equal ground” with both, there is no denying that loadouts is not the same as no loadouts.
>
> Furthermore, what if 343 decided to get rid of Halo’s custom game options, or decided to make all the weapons based on real life military weapons, or had kill times as fast a CoD?
>
> Would you be OK with that?
But they wouldn’t, and it’s pretty obvious. Making your overly exaggerate question irrelevant.
Also, where is the evidence stating you will be able to choose your starting weapon? There is none. That’s why making an argument or comment based upon it is irrelevant. Load outs now, save for Jetpack are fine. TU fixed a great deal of any balance issues.
Thus far, with Reach you spawn with the same weapons only with different abilities save for Invasion. Jetpack, as far as I can see is the only game breaking ability due to it shattering all concepts of map control.
You’re combating me here, and seem to miss the point of my original post.
All I said, was you can’t make any claims about the game when you know next to nothing about it. You know what information has been given from the Vidoc, the media, and the weekly updates.
You DO NOT have enough information to support your claims, you can’t say any of this will break game play until, you’ve seen it in action. Blind opinions and decisions are utterly pointless to make. When more information is released, and it does support your current argument. Good for you and whoopity damn doo.
I’m saying, don’t make a blind assumption. That’s all, I’m not trying to say you’re right or wrong. I’m just trying to get the point across that you don’t have enough information thus far to make a valid and established opinion on how the game will turn out.
Just calm down, stop spamming the forums with these blind assumptions, and wait until you have evidence to back yourself up.
Is that so hard?
I’m not hating. I’m remaining incredibly skeptical about the whole thing until I either see more information or have the game in my hands.
> Sprint…Check
> Loadouts…Check
> Perks…Check
>
>
> Those 3 affect the game more than your entire list. 343 might be listening to what we want, but they sure as hell aren’t listening to what we don’t want.
Pahaha! you’re a funny guy, you think those three really out way the cons? piss off! I for one don’t mind those thing being in the game and con’t wait to see how they actually work, and I really doubt that this game will fail. Also, speak for yourself when you say “we” because i’m looking forward to them.
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> > Sprint…Check
> > Loadouts…Check
> > Perks…Check
> >
> >
> > Those 3 affect the game more than your entire list. 343 might be listening to what we want, but they sure as hell aren’t listening to what we don’t want.
>
> Pahaha! you’re a funny guy, you think those three really out way the cons? piss off! I for one don’t mind those thing being in the game and con’t wait to see how they actually work, and I really doubt that this game will fail. Also, speak for yourself when you say “we” because i’m looking forward to them.
OH MY GOD! This guy’s a Colonel Grade TWO in Halo 3! He obviously knows best! He obviously knows what makes Halo, Halo, your rank tells me you’re one of those people who enjoy the other games like, CoD or GoW, or MoH more than Halo, you’re looking forward to these atrocious additions because your other favourite games had them.
> > > Sprint…Check
> > > Loadouts…Check
> > > Perks…Check
> > >
> > >
> > > Those 3 affect the game more than your entire list. 343 might be listening to what we want, but they sure as hell aren’t listening to what we don’t want.
> >
> > Pahaha! you’re a funny guy, you think those three really out way the cons? piss off! I for one don’t mind those thing being in the game and con’t wait to see how they actually work, and I really doubt that this game will fail. Also, speak for yourself when you say “we” because i’m looking forward to them.
>
> OH MY GOD! This guy’s a Colonel Grade TWO in Halo 3! He obviously knows best! He obviously knows what makes Halo, Halo, your rank tells me you’re one of those people who enjoy the other games like, CoD or GoW, or MoH more than Halo, you’re looking forward to these atrocious additions because your other favourite games had them.
Because your rank really tells how much you have played the game. Because your rank, really tells you that you know so much about a game.
Dude, stat trolling? Really? And here I thought I escaped that on Bungie.net.
Making such claims based upon someone’s rank is ignorant, and it makes you look like a righteous -Yoink-. Back off, dude. Rank never meant much of anything, and will never mean anything.
I was a Colonel Grade Two for the longest time, and I had never played ANY shooter other than Halo. Boom, I just blew your theory out of the water.
I only started playing those games about the time Reach had come out, and I haven’t even put a fraction of the time in to those games that I have Halo.
Get the stat trolling and superiority complex the hell out of here and back the hell off of him.