HLG wants YOU! The OFFICIAL HLG thread on Halo Waypoint!

Prologue: When I created this post, it was nearly a year before this edit, with that being said, this topic has been combined with a ton of other threads on HLG, hiding, and MLH. The main body of this post was intended to get people interested in a fun and different way to play Halo Reach and many other Halo titles.

First and foremost, I want to point out that this isn’t a shameless self promotion or advertisement! And that I will be explaining what HLG (Hidden League Gaming) is, what we are about, and why someone would want to join our community!

KSI, MEA, WAY, -Yoink-, MLG, and the list goes on…

Online gaming and gaming communities go hand in hand. You can call them guilds, or clans, or…whatever. But it all boils down to being the same thing: a community where YOU the player can be a part of something.

Gaming communities promote social interaction, bolster your own player skills, and allow you to feel a sense belonging to something much bigger.

Unlike KSI, MEA, or most of the other Online gaming communities, Hidden League Gaming requires NO initiation, there is no fee, there is no tryout, and it’s easy to join.

Since 2008, the Hidden League Gaming community has been active and alive, going into matchmaking on SEVERAL gaming titles with the intent to play and have fun. Our goal is to play with a tactical approach to whatever game we play, with the intent of having fun and securing a win.

Predominantly, HLG has presided in First Person shooters such as Halo 2, Halo 3, Halo Reach, the Call of Duty series, and a few others. Our core tactic is to gain the lead in a game through skill and in depth knowledge of game mechanics, and then Hide for the rest of the game. Some say it’s cheap, and it is, but it’s also been acknowledged as a legitimate strategy that has produced game winning results time after time and again.

"That’s just camping, and camping is for n00bs"

Wrong. Camping is sitting in a corner with either a CQB weapon or some other quick kill weapon with the intent to ambush and secure kills by waiting them out. What we do is secure the lead by five or ten points (which, if the game has progressed this far into your favor then your obviously going to win anyway), and then find a nice secure location to hide in, and NOT kill your opponents should they come near.

"Then that’s just Griefing, and griefing is for jerks who just want to ruin the game experience for others!"

This is also WRONG. At the end of every game that I have hid in, I’ve always said “good game” to my opponents, and on multiple occasions I have even taken the time to show the other players how to do what I did (which by Bungie’s definition is NOT cheating). I have done Griefing, and there is a STRONG difference between the two.

"Hiding is for bad kids that can’t win otherwise, if you ‘HLG’ then your bad."

Try again. In Halo 2, when subjected to early quitters, modders, host booters, derankers, and more of the less than savory types of players, people took to doing super bounces with objectivs (Bombs, flags, etc…) in order to tip the balance of the game to be fair. Cheating was rampant in H2, and as a result, super bouncing became very popular. We’ve been around a looooong time. As far as winning without Hiding: that couldn’t be any farther from the truth then possible! In Halo 3, I was a level 50 (my 50 was in lone wolves, doubles, swat, and snipers) and I did NOT hide to get my 50’s. It in fact caused you to rank up slower. But HLG was first formalized in H3, and it’s a fun way of playing the game. Try and think of it like Hide and Seek, you hide after securing an obvious win, and wait to be found! If your found, then the game starts all over, and you can try to get to another hiding spot! I’ve had tons of people that because I hid on them, it made the game interesting! Some of the people that I’ve hid on have later on joined the HLG community!

"This is Cheating, because you are denying your opponents the ability to attempt a comeback! Your only Hiding for wins!!!"

Wrong. In fact, there are a lot of times when people hide for the loss. Think about it, your losing a game, it’s getting boring just being rushed all the time by some people who have managed to control rockets, and never miss a head shot with the sniper, but you don’t want to quit out. Why not try to get in some crazy -Yoink- hiding spot? Think of your opponents reactions in the post game if you are found! There have been a few occasions where this has happened to me, and my opponents make the usual remarks about beating me, but then they invite me into their game to show them how to do what I did to get into a hiding spot! Gamers are oppurtunists. Look at the people who have abused Armor Lock in Halo Reach! Is it cheap to use Armor Lock? Yup. Is it cheating? Nope. It’s built into the game. And that goes for hiding spots as well. It’s part of map design!

So, if your looking for a gaming community to join, and have a lot of fun, Check out the Hidden League Gaming community!

Edit 1: Since the creation of this thread, the HLG community has grown, and in that time a smaller subset of HLG was created for the more experienced veteran hiders, and players that wish to be more a part of a community then what HLG has to offer, and we called it Major League Hiding, or MLH.

A good chunk of us upload video’s to Youtube of our exploits as well as montages and other cool stuff that we do!

Missing In Action
Amplified
Brutality
Hidden Faction
Hidden Fatality
The Hidden Wolves
UNSC
Hidden Trojans
Hidden Witnesses
Hidden Reach
G.P.O
MIA All Stars
Proffesionals
Cryptic
Corruption

I’ll pass but I give props for standing for something. It seems your league feels that one cheap way of playing is no different than a different yet still cheap way to play. And that is true. There is no right cheap-way to play. There is playing to win and then there is doing anything to win. As long as you’re actually playing to win and not the latter, then I wish a good hunt.

I didn’t know it meant Hidden League Gaming, we always called it Hide Like Girls…

> I didn’t know it meant Hidden League Gaming, we always called it Hide Like Girls…

as in we cleverly hide behind rocks so you can’t see the sniper round heading for the back of your head? cuz that’s what Hiding Like Girls means to me :wink:

Seems to me like Tex would be the leader of this particular band of women who hide… I wouldn’t be implying anything beyond respect if that’s the case.

> > I didn’t know it meant Hidden League Gaming, we always called it Hide Like Girls…
>
> as in we cleverly hide behind rocks so you can’t see the sniper round heading for the back of your head? cuz that’s what Hiding Like Girls means to me :wink:

No no, these guys will find some genuinely nifty places to hide, but they usually get a few kills to get the lead, hide, and wait out the game.

I hope you’re not one of the type I usually run into Bane.

Sometimes these abilities are fine, but getting 4 kills and then hiding the rest of the game is insanely cheap and cowardly. If that’s how the entire group plays, I can only imagine a game where nobody wins because everyone is hiding.

So you camp and wait for people to come to you? Eh, doesn’t matter to me as long as your not part of excessively annoying group of people who find ways to glitch themselves inside rocks and whatever to such a degree that they can shoot out but they are immune to your bullets.

Me I prefer to sprint about the map, never staying in one area for more than a few seconds I find it more fun that way. Although I probably wouldn’t get as many deaths your way. But Meh, I got 21 kills 0 deaths in a match on black ops just by sprinting around the map Array with an AK-74 and a Stella-3. It’s on my file-share on COD (something they totally didn’t copy from halo) if you want to take a look, not that i actually play COD any more, traded it in…too many cheaters.

yaaaa this is why I got into first person shooters to play a thrilling game of hide and seek! listen you go ahead and play by any lame tactic you want cuz I’ll pull you out of a bloody wall to rip your throat out if I have to - thats how I play, your not cheaters your just as entertaining as 3rd grade recess

Haters going to hate.

All of you guys are just mad because what they do works. They GET THE LEAD and then wait the game out. The other team should have got the lead to begin with. Obviously there is something wrong there, if HLG is bad then why do they get the lead?

I think HLG videos are very entertaining. I would be more than happy to join in on a few games, see what it is all about.

i remember playing a few times on halo 3 agaisnt some hlg guys. It was funny because they couldnt get the lead and go hide and when they would go up by 2 they would hide and we would just take them out from their spot. sorry man CAMPING is CAMPING.

> Haters going to hate.
>
> All of you guys are just mad because what they do works. They GET THE LEAD and then wait the game out. The other team should have got the lead to begin with. Obviously there is something wrong there, if HLG is bad then why do they get the lead?
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> I think HLG videos are very entertaining. I would be more than happy to join in on a few games, see what it is all about.

Mad? who’s mad? that would be like getting mad at a baby for enjoying a lame game like peek-a-boo. ya thats how the allies won WWII they shot a couple of germans and then they all went and hid in the corner! I’m not going to berate you or call you guys cheaters but don’t try at push your lame tactics on me and certainly don’t be proud em

  • hey what happens when two teams of hgl play each other, I bet its about as rividing as watching paint dry

No one pushed jack on you so don’t act like you’re being oppressed. And to answer your question, the loosing team plays seek while the winning team plays hide. If the loosing team becomes the winning team, they play hide and the other team now plays seek.

As far as that being riveting to you, it is of no matter. You were invited to join if you like their strategy. If not, you don’t have to put up picket-signs of protest simply because you have a different point of view.

Sure, tell us how you’d do it. But don’t come in with a nose aimed down when you appear to not even be at eye level.

If I may suggest, once in a while have a weekend or so where an actual team(s) stick to a team and take on challengers from this site. For the most of us, a day or two of custom hide and seek games sounds like fun. And by hide and seek, I mean as I described above, taking turns more less as being hunter then prey. I’d be appreciated if I could be taught a few tricky spots to always keep an eye on. Even a custom manipulated map here and there based on the idea of the game.

:slight_smile:

It’s funny that OP thinks that the amount you win by Halo 3 makes a difference in the change in trueskill value. A win is a win is a win, regardless of how it happens. Winning by any legal means necessary is fine, I just don’t understand how it can be fun to go and hide like a -Yoink-. Man up and prove that you can keep your lead.

Remember those pesky HLG kids that hid on you (or tried to) in halo? Well this is nothing like them. We are a new group to hit youtube making HLG look like child’s play…cause it is. We are the guys who first broke out of MLG Sanctuary, before it was patched. You might have seen the post on the Bungie.net forums several months ago.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7gqDIJvxw0

We’re stepping up our game to hit as many MLG maps as we possibly can, including MLG Redemption which we broke out of recently…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6wQM8pwJJ8

So check out our channel if you’re interested in witnessing our tactics first hand. Maybe you can even find the techniques useful yourselves, or even know how to counter them when the time comes.

http://www.youtube.com/user/MAJORLEAGUEHlDlNG

That’s all for now, but we’ve A LOT more to come… :wink:

-Infinity

Sounds about as stupid as HLG, exploiting spots in Matchmaking is nothing to be proud of.

Expecting a reply saying ‘oh you suck Captain Grade 1’

I personally have 0 respect for HLG.

> I personally have 0 respect for HLG.

As do I.

> Sounds about as stupid as HLG, exploiting spots in Matchmaking is nothing to be proud of.
>
> Expecting a reply saying ‘oh you suck Captain Grade 1’

Oh you suck Captain Grade 1, nah I’m kidding. Haha.

But really. I don’t think you and a lot of other players could hang with us in matchmaking. On the other team OR on ours. It takes alot of skill to hold the lead whilst 2 of your mates are off tricking into a spot. In many ways pulling off a hide in MLG is more difficult than winning outright.

> > Sounds about as stupid as HLG, exploiting spots in Matchmaking is nothing to be proud of.
> >
> > Expecting a reply saying ‘oh you suck Captain Grade 1’
>
> Oh you suck Captain Grade 1, nah I’m kidding. Haha.
>
> But really. I don’t think you and a lot of other players could hang with us in matchmaking. On the other team OR on ours. It takes alot of skill to hold the lead whilst 2 of your mates are off tricking into a spot. In many ways pulling off a hide in MLG is more difficult than winning outright.

I suppose, I didn’t watch the full video, just curious, do all four of you get outside the map or do only some?

EDIT: Or is it, one guy hides, 3 defend.
2nd hides, 2 defend
3rd hides, last defend
4th gets out of map and waits it out?

Possibly the most annoying video I’ve ever seen.