Higher kill count Noble 6 or the Chief?

They are the only Spartans ever to reach a “hyper lethal” rating, and from what I have read it seems to indicate that Noble 6 is the most lethal and skilled Spartan, while the Chief is the luckiest. Noble 6 i’m assuming is younger than the Master Chief because he is a Spartan 3, which indicates that he has achieved his mass body count in a much shorter time than the Chief.

I really think they should consider doing a Halo Reach prequel that focuses on Noble 6 and his highly classified missions, I am actually really intrigued by his/her mysterious backstory. If that doesn’t happen here is hoping that Noble 6 survived and he and Chief team up to eliminate the Spartan 4 program (because Spartan 4’s are a disgrace) in Halo 5.

> They are the only Spartans ever to reach a “hyper lethal” rating, and from what I have read it seems to indicate that Noble 6 is the most lethal and skilled Spartan, while the Chief is the luckiest. Noble 6 i’m assuming is younger than the Master Chief because he is a Spartan 3, which indicates that he has achieved his mass body count in a much shorter time than the Chief.
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> I really think they should consider doing a Halo Reach prequel that focuses on Noble 6 and his highly classified missions, I am actually really intrigued by his/her mysterious backstory. If that doesn’t happen here is hoping that Noble 6 survived and he and Chief team up to <mark>eliminate the Spartan 4 program (because Spartan 4’s are a disgrace) in Halo 5</mark>.

I thought everyone loved Palmer?

Seriously though, you make a good point although I think The Chief would still have found some way to destroy that Covenant Cruiser and escape with Keyes at the end of Halo: Reach if he and Noble 6 swapped places, like you said, he has luck on his side (not to mention the story writers who need to keep him alive for future games!)

> They are the only Spartans ever to reach a “hyper lethal” rating, and from what I have read it seems to indicate that Noble 6 is the most lethal and skilled Spartan, while the Chief is the luckiest. Noble 6 i’m assuming is younger than the Master Chief because he is a Spartan 3, which indicates that he has achieved his mass body count in a much shorter time than the Chief.
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> I really think they should consider doing a Halo Reach prequel that focuses on Noble 6 and his highly classified missions, I am actually really intrigued by his/her mysterious backstory. If that doesn’t happen here is hoping that Noble 6 survived and he and Chief team up to eliminate the Spartan 4 program (because Spartan 4’s are a disgrace) in Halo 5.

You do realize that all surviving spartan 2s and 3s joined the Spartan 4 program?

Also, If you presume that MC and Noble 6 were both Hyper Lethal at the time of Reach, then chief wins because of the events and kills of Halo 1,2,3,and 4.

That’s assuming that Noble 6 really did get killed by all those elites at the end of Reach… Im convinced he was only wounded and he has since recovered…

But I didn’t know that the remaining Spartan II’s and III’s were put into the Spartan IV program? Is that really true? Why is the idiot Palmer in charge if they have better more qualified Spartans???

> That’s assuming that Noble 6 really did get killed by all those elites at the end of Reach… Im convinced he was only wounded and he has since recovered…
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> But I didn’t know that the remaining Spartan II’s and III’s were put into the Spartan IV program? Is that really true? Why is the idiot Palmer in charge if they have better more qualified Spartans???

There is no way 6 could have survived, just saying.

The Autumn was the last transport off that continent, and just listen to the background of Lone Wolf. The Covenant are already colsing in fast and glassing.

Because Palmer is an orders are orders (somewhat) person. She won’t question orders, which is what ONI wants.
And we don’t know a lot about what the IIIs/IIs in the program are doing. They could be training Spartans, or walking around in a suit and tie recruiting.

> You do realize that all surviving spartan 2s and 3s joined the Spartan 4 program?

Not gonna lie, I’m pretty sure the Spartans were assimilated into the Spartan BRANCH of the military, not the Spartan-IV Program itself. I mean, it’d be like saying the Spartan-IIIs who were under Fred’s command during the Battle of Onyx were considered Spartan-IIs from that point on.

> > You do realize that all surviving spartan 2s and 3s joined the Spartan 4 program?
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> Not gonna lie, I’m pretty sure the Spartans were assimilated into the Spartan BRANCH of the military, not the Spartan-IV Program itself. I mean, it’d be like saying the Spartan-IIIs who were under Fred’s command during the Battle of Onyx were considered Spartan-IIs from that point on.

I remember reading that they where assimulated into the other spartan programs. I just made the assupmtion that they joined the spartan IVs. My bad.

> That’s assuming that Noble 6 really did get killed by all those elites at the end of Reach… Im convinced he was only wounded and he has since recovered…
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> But I didn’t know that the remaining Spartan II’s and III’s were put into the Spartan IV program? Is that really true? Why is the idiot Palmer in charge if they have better more qualified Spartans???

  1. The planet got glassed. Good luck surviving that.
  2. I have no idea why Jun chose Palmer instead of Buck, or any other more qualified ODST.

They should have gave Buck the command of the Infinity. The original captain and Lasky are both morons. I am still bothered with how at the end of Halo 4 Lasky fires a couple of shells at the didacts ship and then tells chief good luck and then takes the infinity on a cruise of the solar system or something. If all it took was a nuclear sized explosion to destroy the didacts weapon, why didn’t Infinity fire everything it had at it?? The didacts weapon when it was blowing up a city was exposed to space. But nope the infinity and the rest of the UNSC fleet was nowhere to be seen, they just sat back and waited for Chief to do everything.

Oh how I hate how Halo 4 turned out, they took a smart franchise with a tremendous amount of lore and took a crap on it. I’m starting to feel angry again.

> They should have gave Buck the command of the Infinity. The original captain and Lasky are both morons. I am still bothered with how at the end of Halo 4 Lasky fires a couple of shells at the didacts ship and then tells chief good luck and then takes the infinity on a cruise of the solar system or something. If all it took was a nuclear sized explosion to destroy the didacts weapon, why didn’t Infinity fire everything it had at it?? The didacts weapon when it was blowing up a city was exposed to space. But nope the infinity and the rest of the UNSC fleet was nowhere to be seen, they just sat back and waited for Chief to do everything.
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> Oh how I hate how Halo 4 turned out, they took a smart franchise with a tremendous amount of lore and took a crap on it. I’m starting to feel angry again.

Maybe the Didact might have blown the Infinity up and possibly the fleet as well by the time they could get a sizable hole in the Mantle’s Approach and a Nuke in the center of the ship would have been faster since a lot of it was held together by hardlight and it was all connected to the center of the ship as far as I know.

Also, how is it that Buck would make a good captain of the UNSC’s flagship?

Earth Orbital Command reported that MAC defenses had done nothing to Mantle’s Approach, and you saw how the fleet was getting beaten up when it tried to meet Chief at the Composer.

Infinity punched a hole in a weak spot of Mantle’s Approach, and that hole was repaired immediately afterwords. The fleet still wouldn’t be able to do anything against it.

And we also learn that the Didact put a shield up around himself and the Composer. Even if Infinity managed to break in, it wouldn’t do anything.

Chief’s nuke blew up in the heart of the ship, above an active slipspace rupture, while a weapon was firing. The combined chain reactions is what destroyed Mantle’s Approach so badly. Infinity launching a couple HAVOCs, if they even reach Mantle’s Approach, wouldn’t have done the same. The ship would probably repair damages too.

Jun chose Palmer because she saved an Admiral and an important AI. And I’ve also informed you that ONI would want someone who won’t question orders, a trait Buck doesn’t share due to his performance in New Mombasa (even though he did go back).

The chief did end up blowing up halo, I’d say that ups his kill count a lot.

Noble Six was also a part of Beta Company, meaning he went into service a while after the Chief did, giving Chief a headstart on kill counts.

We can’t make a fair judgement on the little we know of 6

> They are the only Spartans ever to reach a “hyper lethal” rating, and from what I have read it seems to indicate that Noble 6 is the most lethal and skilled Spartan, while the Chief is the luckiest. Noble 6 i’m assuming is younger than the Master Chief because he is a Spartan 3, which indicates that he has achieved his mass body count in a much shorter time than the Chief.
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> I really think they should consider doing a Halo Reach prequel that focuses on Noble 6 and his highly classified missions, I am actually really intrigued by his/her mysterious backstory. If that doesn’t happen here is hoping that Noble 6 survived and he and Chief team up to eliminate the Spartan 4 program (<mark>because Spartan 4’s are a disgrace</mark>) in Halo 5.

How exactly? You are making a judgement on the small amount we’ve seen and I think the Spartan-IV program is impressive as it was done in four years

  1. Six is awesome, but he, or frankly any Spartan ever, still can’t match up to the Chief. We’re talking about a guy that destroyed two Halo installations, went through two Flood hives, and walked out of the Covenant Holy City after being teleported into its very heart. The guy survived a direct orbital bombardment from one of their cruisers after punching one of their leaders to death. The guy has so many kills under his count that if you stacked all of the bodies on top of each other, they’d equal Mt. Everest in height.

  2. OK, I think people are being pretty harsh on the Spartan-IVs, and this is coming from a guy that thinks that Johnson and the Spartan-Is would kick their -Yoinks!-. Sure, the IVs have shown to lack discipline, restraint, and sometimes even adequate training, as the only IV team that’s proven to be anywhere close to as competent as the old IIs and IIIs is Crimson, but Palmer is, all things said and done, a competent commander and Spartan in her own right, and her only real flaw is being a hardass. Just a side note: Being a hardass in the military is EXPECTED. Hate Palmer if you don’t like her personality, but don’t say that it makes her incompetent; you wouldn’t want your CO cracking jokes and not giving a -Yoink- about the situation when -Yoink- starts hitting the fan.

probably because spartan ops turned out so unloved. and that is really our main exposure to them, without reading any of the books of course. If I have any beef with them, its that there armor looks like a space ninja cosplay. they didn’t do much in the campaign.

> 1) Six is awesome, but he, <mark>or frankly any Spartan ever, still can’t match up to the Chief.</mark> <mark>We’re talking about a guy that destroyed two Halo installations</mark>, <mark>went through two Flood hives</mark>, a<mark>nd walked out of the Covenant Holy City after being teleported into its very heart</mark>. <mark>The guy survived a direct orbital bombardment from one of their cruisers after punching one of their leaders to death.</mark> The guy has so many kills under his count that if you stacked all of the bodies on top of each other, <mark>they’d equal Mt. Everest in height.</mark>

Cough Fred cough

Because throwing a couple of grenades or pressing a button couldn’t be done by anyone else

And he was scared, and a Marine nearly got through the library, Marvin Mobuto

Pretty sure any spartan could do this

Jun and other Spartans were on Reach and survived the Fall of Reach, punching a Prophet to death isn’t even a difficult thing to do

I highly doubt that

> <mark>probably because spartan ops turned out so unloved.</mark> <mark>and that is really our main exposure to them, without reading any of the books</mark> of course. <mark>If I have any beef with them, its that there armor looks like a space ninja cosplay.</mark> <mark>they didn’t do much in the campaign.</mark>

Source

Well they haven’t popped up in the books, I could of judged Chief in CE as someone who doesn’t know what to do unless he has someone telling him what to do all the time

cough

From what we saw, they could of been on different parts of Requiem

> And he was scared, and a Marine nearly got through the library, Marvin Mobuto

For the record, Halo: The Flood has a lot of criticism from fans due to its inaccurate and uncanon portrayals of Master Chief and the events of the Battle of Installation 04. I would like to remind you that this is the same book that said that a rocket fired from Master Chief killed a Hunter by SNAPPING ITS BACKBONE.

So we can take some of the things the books says with a grain of salt. Its overall story is fairly canon, but there are a couple things we can probably dismiss.