Ok so I feel this isn’t getting enough attention. Hi, I have been around the forums posting mostly about the twitch drops and BTB. Now that it looks like I have spent the time on those two problems. If you just want to blindly post your thoughts on hidden MMR to get some attention on the subject just skip the wall of text and please just post away. As the OP I have no problem with simply having a discussion as a community to shed some light on the subject, hopefully the devs will pay attention. I don’t expect this thread to get too much attention it doesn’t look like this has ever changed. It seems to be the way games are made now.
Halo infinite as well as the last couple iterations of halo, halo 5 etc. Has a hidden rank that effects who matchmaking wants to place you AGAINST and how teams are balanced even in social games. You can start a new account and play bot slayer, which is a social playlist and finish like 5 games (you will probably do really well) and then go in to do your ranking placement matches. You have to play 10 placement matches to be placed between silver and diamond 1 if you didn’t know. After you are placed you can take the grind to onyx, however it is different than someone who just plays social matches on that account. During your placements especially you are being placed against onyx in your placements even though you cannot place that high. This leads to a basically unfun multiplayer experience as your mmr goes up and down depending on how you do in say something like Big Team Battle. This leads to quitters although people quit just because sometimes.
A little bit of background. I’m the kind of person that does not mind being told when I get things mixed up. If memory serves me correctly this has been a thing since about halo 3 with the other dev that used to make halo games. However if memory serves me correctly they DID separate your mu and sigma or ELO from ranked to social eventually when they gave tiers of social experience so you could be a general in social slayer. Maybe they didn’t?
Solution for now either way for those that have read this far and still aren’t able to piece together what I am trying to say I’ll give a way around it. If you want to play social only you have to have a separate account for it. That second account would then only be used for social matches only.
Creating new unique users would be ethically wrong to do however you would be creating unique users which would effect how the dev team realistically takes feedback depending on how many unique users they see playing their game. Inflating the population is maybe not too good. ← probably a bad explanation
It is better to give a solution to the problem instead of simply complaining about it, is good time management and a better use of ones time. We don’t want to just complain about a problem without providing a solution or suggestion about what could be done better…I’m not a dev so I don’t know correct me if I am wrong. If 343i would remove hidden MMR across playlists wouldn’t it be as simple as making it so that searching would not look at MMR thus in turn making it so that matchmaking is faster leading to a smoother experience with more games? Would it break matchmaking because they NEED a hidden MMR? Would they need to test such a fix? It would just create more a mish mash of games done quickly with join in progress to create an over all faster maybe more chaotic like BTB slayer and social experience.
If you post and it sounds like good feedback I will try to add it to the post.
Dormiglione - I agree with you. Social should have the first priority on connection / ping. I dont care about rank in social. Bronze and Onyx players are welcome. See rest below.
SPARSTE96 - Remember, do not play against bots, as this will increase your overall MMR by a lot, even in standard playlists. I learned it the hard way
RipShaDe_41 - This will always be an issue unfortunately. I have had this issue with my friends too. My friends do not have nearly as high of a MMR and so they always find that when they play with me it’s harder for them.
It’s highly annoying and I can’t stand it for myself as well. I don’t want to sweat in social just because of a hidden rank and then my experience suffer since my friends aren’t as good and face ppl on the same level as me. So they don’t perform well and we lose majority of the time