hey, you who threw the game!

Games Halo 5: Guardians
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there is a social playlist for you, clearly you want to be ranked bronze, so why not go somewhere that ranks don’t exist at all?? instead of ruining other peoples chances of possibility getting a decent rank for themselves?

THIS, is the main issue with halo’s (and overwatch’s) only winning and losing matter not personal skill. because you get yoinks who throw the game and make it impossible to win. from them jumping of the map, or shooting the sky ALL game.

really hope halo 6 uses personal skill as a factor

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play free for all, o join in a company

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Which is why I only bother to rank in FFA. If you don’t have a regular team or friends to rank with in team games it’s not worth it IMO. I to support individual performance ranking over “team” based ranking.

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Probably people on smurf accounts to get a low rank and boost their friends.

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> > Which is why I only bother to rank in FFA. If you don’t have a regular team or friends to rank with in team games it’s not worth it IMO. I to support individual performance ranking over “team” based ranking.
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> play free for all, o join in a company

i tend to not do free for all in halo 5 because i can not for the life of me stand the new pistol, but that might be the only way to enjoy “ranked” i can handle having bad team-mates, i can handle losing said match because of less then steller team-mates, but to sit there, and be on a team with people who shot the sky for 10 minutes? and not be able to leave because the big bad ban hammer? thats 99 percent of my ranked stress right there. thanks for the suggestions, i will try FFA again

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> > > Which is why I only bother to rank in FFA. If you don’t have a regular team or friends to rank with in team games it’s not worth it IMO. I to support individual performance ranking over “team” based ranking.
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> > play free for all, o join in a company
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> i tend to not do free for all in halo 5 because i can not for the life of me stand the new pistol, but that might be the only way to enjoy “ranked” i can handle having bad team-mates, i can handle losing said match because of less then steller team-mates, but to sit there, and be on a team with people who shot the sky for 10 minutes? and not be able to leave because the big bad ban hammer? thats 99 percent of my ranked stress right there. thanks for the suggestions, i will try FFA again

update, just like before when i tried to rank in ffa months ago, with 6 players max, it’s far too campy( and i won and i am saying this) hopefully in halo 6. we will see the return of oddball ffa and koth free for all.

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“my teammates don’t try hard enough”
“I don’t like using the pistol”
“FFA is too campy”

I’m not entirely sure what you want changed so the game meets your desires. Do you want low skilled players relegated to social? Do you want them to change or remove the pistol to cater to you? And then… make Spartans die if they’re not moving?

What are you asking for?

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Use the looking for group feature, you will find a lot more reliable teammates.

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> “my teammates don’t try hard enough”
> “I don’t like using the pistol”
> “FFA is too campy”
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> I’m not entirely sure what you want changed so the game meets your desires. Do you want low skilled players relegated to social? Do you want them to change or remove the pistol to cater to you? And then… make Spartans die if they’re not moving?
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> What are you asking for?

i never once said “my teammates don’t try hard enough” i actually encourage people to try their best, and if it isn’t good enough, it sucks yeah, but you tried and that’s all you can ask for out of your team-mates,. this is addressing people who throw games at the expense of others, which is not under any circumstances “trying hard enough”

i also did not say “i don’t like using the pistol” i said “i can’t stand the pistol” as in, i feel it is far too good as a starting weapon, and with all the different choices on the map, why use anything other then the pistol, when you can do just fine with the STARTING pistol.

and yes, FFA too me, is too campy, any game-type where it has a max kill count, but the time runs out before said kill count is reached, is campy.

but to answer your question the things i want changed in relation to the OP,

>for halo 6 to adopt personal ratings over team ratings, not all of us have a 4 man, i am harshly punished because nick decided “hur dur i am going to shoot at the sky for 10 minutes and go 2-20 in a slayer match” i should not be overly punished in the situation, because yes, while the team did lose, if i go 16-4, i contributed way more then the 2-20, so yes, i should lose a point here or there, because the team as a whole, lose. but i should not lose the same amount of points as the 2-20. (the beta had personal ratings on top of W/L) and that worked better in my opinion. this ranking system is, no matter how hard you play, no matter how many flag caps you get, if the next guy doesn’t bring his A game, you will be punished.

also, i believe the game already does this, but if you place in the last season, soft reset the new season so placements aren’t such a wild west. because only in placements do i get the shoot the sky, and the run in to walls, and those are the most important games of the season. once i am ranked, everything normalizes.

TLDR, changing ranking system to a more personal thing, and have placements be more centralized to where you ended the last season/time you placed.

bonus things i would like changed to fit my desires, as you put it.

yes, i would like to see them change the pistol in either rate of fire, or make it a bit weaker on head shot, 5sk on head shot is only one more then the BR or DMR, for a starting weapon that seems far too viable for my taste, and i am not the only one who feels this way, so “catering to me” is not what i am getting at, no pistol has been this (expect for h1’s) so why all of a sudden make it darn good again? it’s the same reason people are complaining about auto’s, the same reason people are debating the new radar vs the old radar. etc.

and i stated what i would like changed in free for all

just add more game types within the mode, rumble pit in H3 and H4 had at least 3-4 different gamemodes/types to spice things up to make it more then just “i must get 25 kills no matter how little i move” koth, oddball, regicide. crazy kill. just to name a few.

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> Use the looking for group feature, you will find a lot more reliable teammates.

i will, because i really don’t care about going 10-0, but i would like to have teammates who 1, stay in games 2 try at least 50 percent of their best.

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> > “my teammates don’t try hard enough”
> > “I don’t like using the pistol”
> > “FFA is too campy”
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> > I’m not entirely sure what you want changed so the game meets your desires. Do you want low skilled players relegated to social? Do you want them to change or remove the pistol to cater to you? And then… make Spartans die if they’re not moving?
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> > What are you asking for?
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> i never once said “my teammates don’t try hard enough” i actually encourage people to try their best, and if it isn’t good enough, it sucks yeah, but you tried and that’s all you can ask for out of your team-mates,. this is addressing people who throw games at the expense of others, which is not under any circumstances “trying hard enough”
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> i also did not say “i don’t like using the pistol” i said “i can’t stand the pistol” as in, i feel it is far too good as a starting weapon, and with all the different choices on the map, why use anything other then the pistol, when you can do just fine with the STARTING pistol.
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> and yes, FFA too me, is too campy, any game-type where it has a max kill count, but the time runs out before said kill count is reached, is campy.
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> but to answer your question the things i want changed in relation to the OP,
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> >for halo 6 to adopt personal ratings over team ratings, not all of us have a 4 man, i am harshly punished because nick decided “hur dur i am going to shoot at the sky for 10 minutes and go 2-20 in a slayer match” i should not be overly punished in the situation, because yes, while the team did lose, if i go 16-4, i contributed way more then the 2-20, so yes, i should lose a point here or there, because the team as a whole, lose. but i should not lose the same amount of points as the 2-20. (the beta had personal ratings on top of W/L) and that worked better in my opinion. this ranking system is, no matter how hard you play, no matter how many flag caps you get, if the next guy doesn’t bring his A game, you will be punished.
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> also, i believe the game already does this, but if you place in the last season, soft reset the new season so placements aren’t such a wild west. because only in placements do i get the shoot the sky, and the run in to walls, and those are the most important games of the season. once i am ranked, everything normalizes.
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> TLDR, changing ranking system to a more personal thing, and have placements be more centralized to where you ended the last season/time you placed.
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> bonus things i would like changed to fit my desires, as you put it.
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> yes, i would like to see them change the pistol in either rate of fire, or make it a bit weaker on head shot, 5sk on head shot is only one more then the BR or DMR, for a starting weapon that seems far too viable for my taste, and i am not the only one who feels this way, so “catering to me” is not what i am getting at, no pistol has been this (expect for h1’s) so why all of a sudden make it darn good again? it’s the same reason people are complaining about auto’s, the same reason people are debating the new radar vs the old radar. etc.
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> and i stated what i would like changed in free for all
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> just add more game types within the mode, rumble pit in H3 and H4 had at least 3-4 different gamemodes/types to spice things up to make it more then just “i must get 25 kills no matter how little i move” koth, oddball, regicide. crazy kill. just to name a few.

I’m hoping for a team and a skill based ranking system,but that’s me and I can’t stand those trolls either so your not the only one

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Yikes. I mean, what is wrong with just winning?

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> Yikes. I mean, what is wrong with just winning?

the is wrong with just winning, while on the surface, it’s easier to say “just win and you rank up” but what about the people who go 22-3, but have 2 team-mates go 2-11, that erases all the effort you put in and you are in turn punished for, not having a “team” or “having friends you trust to play with” while i don’t think you should rank up from doing well, it should be equated in to how much you lose. the beta used this system, and and seemed fine. but i think they said “people were getting ranked higher then they should” which i personally find BS, because if you are personal ranked high, you earned that, the system now, just like in overwatch is more of a "your team earned/allowed you to get here.

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> > > > Which is why I only bother to rank in FFA. If you don’t have a regular team or friends to rank with in team games it’s not worth it IMO. I to support individual performance ranking over “team” based ranking.
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> > > play free for all, o join in a company
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> > i tend to not do free for all in halo 5 because i can not for the life of me stand the new pistol, but that might be the only way to enjoy “ranked” i can handle having bad team-mates, i can handle losing said match because of less then steller team-mates, but to sit there, and be on a team with people who shot the sky for 10 minutes? and not be able to leave because the big bad ban hammer? thats 99 percent of my ranked stress right there. thanks for the suggestions, i will try FFA again
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> update, just like before when i tried to rank in ffa months ago, with 6 players max, it’s far too campy( and i won and i am saying this) hopefully in halo 6. we will see the return of oddball ffa and koth free for all.

Get to the higher ranks in FFA and it’s not campy at all.

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> > Yikes. I mean, what is wrong with just winning?
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> the is wrong with just winning, while on the surface, it’s easier to say “just win and you rank up” but what about the people who go 22-3, but have 2 team-mates go 2-11, that erases all the effort you put in and you are in turn punished for, not having a “team” or “having friends you trust to play with” while i don’t think you should rank up from doing well, it should be equated in to how much you lose. the beta used this system, and and seemed fine. but i think they said “people were getting ranked higher then they should” which i personally find BS, because if you are personal ranked high, you earned that, the system now, just like in overwatch is more of a "your team earned/allowed you to get here.

I am not sure that is entirely true, I only rolled with my clan and we all had different ranks despite having the same exact record

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> > > > > Which is why I only bother to rank in FFA. If you don’t have a regular team or friends to rank with in team games it’s not worth it IMO. I to support individual performance ranking over “team” based ranking.
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> > > > play free for all, o join in a company
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> > > i tend to not do free for all in halo 5 because i can not for the life of me stand the new pistol, but that might be the only way to enjoy “ranked” i can handle having bad team-mates, i can handle losing said match because of less then steller team-mates, but to sit there, and be on a team with people who shot the sky for 10 minutes? and not be able to leave because the big bad ban hammer? thats 99 percent of my ranked stress right there. thanks for the suggestions, i will try FFA again
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> > update, just like before when i tried to rank in ffa months ago, with 6 players max, it’s far too campy( and i won and i am saying this) hopefully in halo 6. we will see the return of oddball ffa and koth free for all.
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> Get to the higher ranks in FFA and it’s not campy at all.

is it still “top 3” rank up like halo 3, or is it, first or derank?

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FFA is a deserted wasteland when I play. I’m not even a high rank yet and it still took ten plus minutes just to find a game.

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> > > Yikes. I mean, what is wrong with just winning?
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> > the is wrong with just winning, while on the surface, it’s easier to say “just win and you rank up” but what about the people who go 22-3, but have 2 team-mates go 2-11, that erases all the effort you put in and you are in turn punished for, not having a “team” or “having friends you trust to play with” while i don’t think you should rank up from doing well, it should be equated in to how much you lose. the beta used this system, and and seemed fine. but i think they said “people were getting ranked higher then they should” which i personally find BS, because if you are personal ranked high, you earned that, the system now, just like in overwatch is more of a "your team earned/allowed you to get here.
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> I am not sure that is entirely true, I only rolled with my clan and we all had different ranks despite having the same exact record

placements, are weighted more fairly it seems, personal performance X record (i have gone 4-6, but because my personal stats ranked gold 5) . but once you get out of placements, it goes to W/L only. when i personally feel, it should stay personal X W/L because if you play at a plat level, but no matter how hard you carry, your team-mates play high sliver/low gold. you are held back a bit TOO much after placements, at least you have fun with your clan :stuck_out_tongue:

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Arena Slayer is pretty much the only game that I play in Halo, and as a solo player I’ve learned to not worry about rank. All I can control is my k/d, so I concentrate on it. As long as my k/d is positive, and I can reach Platinum by the end of the season, I’ve accomplished my goals.

edit - I just want to say that the only way any of us can blame our teammates for our rank is if you’ve managed to go positive in every game you play. If you’ve ever went negative, then you’ve either been carried by someone else or you’ve cost someone else a game. Which means you can’t complain when someone else does it too. We all have bad games.

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> Arena Slayer is pretty much the only game that I play in Halo, and as a solo player I’ve learned to not worry about rank. All I can control is my k/d, so I concentrate on it. As long as my k/d is positive, and I can reach Platinum by the end of the season, I’ve accomplished my goals.
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> edit - I just want to say that the only way any of us can blame our teammates for our rank is if you’ve managed to go positive in every game you play. If you’ve ever went negative, then you’ve either been carried by someone else or you’ve cost someone else a game. Which means you can’t complain when someone else does it too. We all have bad games.

you sound exactly like me, back when i had a 1.3 and carried teams to loses :((( i finally made it to plat 2 that season and was over the moon!,

of course we have bad games, i always say “i know i could have done better” or “if i didn’t die here, this could have gone different” i am all for self realization lol, but i am not allowed to “call out” on the forums, but just know that the player in question, without doubt deserves the blame, he went 3-20(just about) and i thought, “wow really bad game for you huh bud?” and then i played another game, and i match with him again, and i watched him play and made sure i was around to help him do better like a team should, and he was sky shooting and running into the wall spraying his AR and went 3-20 again… in the situation, i feel the blame is justified, because that isn’t a “bad game” that is a pattern, that to me, is seen is him throwing. fool me once shame on me, fool me twice shame on you.