Hey casuals, CoD elements don't belong in Halo.

I play Halo, because I like Halo. I don’t play CoD, because I don’t like CoD. It’s as simple as that. Each game has it’s own qualities which make it fun for a different group of people. And it’s not only CoD, its other games too.

But if I see one more “(Insert CoD element here) would be AWESOMEZZZ in Halo 4!!!11111!!!” my head will explode. Just because something is in one video game doesn’t mean it will work in another, I always thought the principle was common sense, but apparently not.

Customization is okay to a point. I don’t understand what the benefit of having customizable armor, super customizable emblems, and customizable guns, besides the fact that it looks cool. Let me explain something to you, casuals. Looks don’t change gameplay. Looks don’t improve how a game works. Looks do nothing besides give you something to look at. Halo 2’s customization was MORE then enough.

Killstreaks are a broken element of gameplay that belong in CoD. The online community is PLAGUED with campers, all we need to do is give them another bonus and give them airstrikes the longer them camp. They don’t belong in Halo. No it wouldn’t be cool if you sat it the back of the map with a sniper rife got 10 kills in a row and got a mac cannon, that’s just flat out absurd.

Perks, and armor abilities. I don’t need to elaborate do I?

Yes maybe these are things that you want, but they aren’t necessary. But video games were a lot more fun before EVERYONE and their grandma wanted to play them. I have faith that 343 realizes the backbone of the community are the dedicated fans, the ones who want to have fun for more then a week until the 45th installment of the CoD series comes out.

Also I’m not good at Halo. Quite frankly I suck. But that doesn’t mean I don’t want to play competitively .

Causal:

  1. Of, relating to, or acting as a cause.
  2. Expressing or indicating a cause: “a causal conjunction”.

Cod:

  1. A large marine fish with a small barbel on the chin.

> Causal:
> 1. Of, relating to, or acting as a cause.
> 2. Expressing or indicating a cause: “a causal conjunction”.
>
> Cod:
> 1. A large marine fish with a small barbel on the chin.

Lol. I know you were trying to be funny but you put the definition of causal, not casual.

There is someone right next to me that thinks what I am thinking. I agreed with them.

The point of this thread was to put other people down and belittle their ideas. I took it upon myself to put you down instead. Maybe next time you can make a thread that actually contributes something to the community then I won’t come in and treat you like the not-nice individual that this thread portrays you as.

> There is someone right next to me that thinks what I am thinking. I agreed with them.
>
> The point of this thread was to put other people down and belittle their ideas. I took it upon myself to put you down instead. Maybe next time you can make a thread that actually contributes something to the community then I won’t come in and treat you like the not-nice individual that this thread portrays you as.

Oh sorry I didn’t know we were in the same room, I couldn’t hear your friends opinion.

Take note this is the internet, we’ve all been here for a while. If someone’s e-opinion bothers you, there’s something wrong. I’m not belittling anyone, I’m telling them they are wrong. How would you feel if I said “Halo 4 should be like Super Mario 64 because that was a really fun game and it was so cool!” That’s an opinion that should remain unsaid, harsh, but true.

Also this thread portrays you as arrogant, and hypocritical. If you’re going to pick a fight you should pick it with someone who has the idea of mixing game elements because they can’t argue.

> > Causal:
> > 1. Of, relating to, or acting as a cause.
> > 2. Expressing or indicating a cause: “a causal conjunction”.
> >
> > Cod:
> > 1. A large marine fish with a small barbel on the chin.
>
> Lol. I know you were trying to be funny but you put the definition of causal, not casual.

Hey causals, CoD elements don’t belong in…

That look familiar?

> > > Causal:
> > > 1. Of, relating to, or acting as a cause.
> > > 2. Expressing or indicating a cause: “a causal conjunction”.
> > >
> > > Cod:
> > > 1. A large marine fish with a small barbel on the chin.
> >
> > Lol. I know you were trying to be funny but you put the definition of causal, not casual.
>
> Hey causals, CoD elements don’t belong in…
>
> That look familiar?

Nice catch :wink:

Before he fixed the title, of course.

Now stop bickering, people.

I don’t see why are you replying to this troll.

OT: I agree to most things, but I really don’t see an issue with customization, except for weapon customization.

I guess I’ll be the one with a sensible reply to the OP.

Well I agree with you, Halo is Halo and shouldn’t be anything else. IMO it shouldn’t be like Reach and it definitely shouldn’t be like CoD. Halo was always about equal spawns, equal ground and the only things you had was your weapon and skill. In CoD if you can camp long enough, you get a nuke. In Reach if you spawn, you get an unfair advantage.

It takes some testicular fortitude to defend Halo and competitive play then call yourself bad but still want to be competitive. You know your bad, you want to improve and that is the sole drive of competitive play.

> Customization is okay to a point. I don’t understand what the benefit of having customizable armor, super customizable emblems, and customizable guns, besides the fact that it looks cool. Let me explain something to you, casuals. Looks don’t change gameplay. Looks don’t improve how a game works. Looks do nothing besides give you something to look at. Halo 2’s customization was MORE then enough.
>
> Killstreaks are a broken element of gameplay that belong in CoD. The online community is PLAGUED with campers, all we need to do is give them another bonus and give them airstrikes the longer them camp. They don’t belong in Halo. No it wouldn’t be cool if you sat it the back of the map with a sniper rife got 10 kills in a row and got a mac cannon, that’s just flat out absurd.
>
> Perks, and armor abilities. I don’t need to elaborate do I?
>
> Yes maybe these are things that you want, but they aren’t necessary. But video games were a lot more fun before EVERYONE and their grandma wanted to play them. I have faith that 343 realizes the backbone of the community are the dedicated fans, the ones who want to have fun for more then a week until the 45th installment of the CoD series comes out.
>
> Also I’m not good at Halo. Quite frankly I suck. But that doesn’t mean I don’t want to play competitively .

name 1 BAD thing about the ability to customize the look, and sound of your gun please.

until you can do so, you are just flaming ideas because COD had the concept first, which is completely and totally asinine.

killstreaks, perks, and armor abilities all have inherent potential to ‘better’ the game, but are widely accepted as ‘debatable’

customization, on the other hand, LITERALLY DOES NOT HURT ONE SINGLE PERSON IN THE ENTIRE WORLD.

but NOT ONLY THAT, almost every single person (im talking 99.9%) of the people who have the option to customize their weapons look will use said option to do so. some people prefer the default, but that doesnt mean they arent going to look thru the other ones and think negatively towards the concept. if anything they are glad they have OPTIONS, especially considering said options are literally not disliked, or hated by the VAST MAJORITY of people who are aware of said options.

you are literally the first person i have seen, in my entire existence, that has actually complained about the idea of weapon customization.

but hey:

> Looks don’t change gameplay. Looks don’t improve how a game works. Looks do nothing besides give you something to look at. Halo 2’s customization was MORE then enough.

right?

riddle me this, then:

why is it that if the ability to change your guns existed, YOU YOURSELF WOULD LOOK INTO THESE OPTIONS? maybe its because humans are naturally interested in things of aesthetic value. surely this cant be that hard of a concept for you to grasp, especially considering the fact you UNDERSTAND that people think this way because not only are they WIDELY USING THESE OPTIONS ALREADY, IN OTHER GAMES, they are ALSO ASKING FOR THEM IN HALO.

until you can provide one single reason weapon customization is bad, or would negatively effect halo, your argument against weapon customization is inherently invalid, by definition.

> I guess I’ll be the one with a sensible reply to the OP.
>
> Well I agree with you, Halo is Halo and shouldn’t be anything else. IMO it shouldn’t be like Reach and it definitely shouldn’t be like CoD. Halo was always about equal spawns, equal ground and the only things you had was your weapon and skill. In CoD if you can camp long enough, you get a nuke. In Reach if you spawn, you get an unfair advantage.
>
> It takes some testicular fortitude to defend Halo and competitive play then call yourself bad but still want to be competitive. You know your bad, you want to improve and that is the sole drive of competitive play.

While gameplay impacting features from CoD aren’t good for Halo, what bad could weapon customization possibly do? Not everything in CoD is bad, it’s mainly the gameplay. I have always liked the weapon customization and would have nothing against it in Halo (except obviously the gameplay impacting part).

Frank O’Connor, stumbling upon this thread, proceeded to announce the following to the employees of 343i:

“Alright gang, the community doesn’t want ‘CoD’ elements in Halo, so I guess we need to get rid of guns, bullets, soldiers, anything military and the first-person perspective.”

> Frank O’Connor, stumbling upon this thread, proceeded to announce the following to the employees of 343i:
>
> “Alright gang, the community doesn’t want ‘CoD’ elements in Halo, so I guess we need to get rid of guns, bullets, soldiers, anything military and the first-person perspective.”

Jogging, jumping and crouching are going to have to go too.

> customization, on the other hand, LITERALLY DOES NOT HURT ONE SINGLE PERSON IN THE ENTIRE WORLD.

There was a point where graphics didn’t matter. I’m probably dating myself, but when I played Super Mario Bro’s when I was a kid I didn’t care about how good it looked. I cared if I was having fun.

Customization takes time to create, that time and energy could be used elsewhere, as in something that actually improves gameplay. While I know you’d like to think that everyone in the world cares about how pretty their gun looks, in reality some people would rather be having fun actually engaging in what they they bought the game for. Playing multiplayer.

And you’d like to know why it would negatively impact Halo? Because it’s pointless gimmicks to get people to buy the game. “Oh cool I can put a pink camo on my gun, and make the reticle a smiley face!!” The gaming community should purchase/play games for game mechanics NOT CUSTOMIZATION.

> Frank O’Connor, stumbling upon this thread, proceeded to announce the following to the employees of 343i:
>
> “Alright gang, the community doesn’t want ‘CoD’ elements in Halo, so I guess we need to get rid of guns, bullets, soldiers, anything military and the first-person perspective.”

Not to double post, and I know your kidding, but those are general FPS elements. I’m speaking specifically what CoD has.

> > I guess I’ll be the one with a sensible reply to the OP.
> >
> > Well I agree with you, Halo is Halo and shouldn’t be anything else. IMO it shouldn’t be like Reach and it definitely shouldn’t be like CoD. Halo was always about equal spawns, equal ground and the only things you had was your weapon and skill. In CoD if you can camp long enough, you get a nuke. In Reach if you spawn, you get an unfair advantage.
> >
> > It takes some testicular fortitude to defend Halo and competitive play then call yourself bad but still want to be competitive. You know your bad, you want to improve and that is the sole drive of competitive play.
>
> While gameplay impacting features from CoD aren’t good for Halo, what bad could weapon customization possibly do? Not everything in CoD is bad, it’s mainly the gameplay. I have always liked the weapon customization and would have nothing against it in Halo (except obviously the gameplay impacting part).

Well weapon customization would not be bad as long as it is along the lines of weapon color or look. If it in no way affects the weapon’s performance and doesn’t differ from the other player’s weapons in terms of performance I see no problem. Cosmetics never hurt but over customization can be seen as a gimmick by some.

Like I stated above Halo is all about equality and individual skill so as long as those things aren’t compromised I see no problem with cosmetic weapon customization.

> > customization, on the other hand, LITERALLY DOES NOT HURT ONE SINGLE PERSON IN THE ENTIRE WORLD.
>
> There was a point where graphics didn’t matter. I’m probably dating myself, but when I played Super Mario Bro’s when I was a kid I didn’t care about how good it looked. I cared if I was having fun.
>
> Customization takes time to create, that time and energy could be used elsewhere, as in something that actually improves gameplay. While I know you’d like to think that everyone in the world cares about how pretty their gun looks, in reality some people would rather be having fun actually engaging in what they they bought the game for. Playing multiplayer.
>
> And you’d like to know why it would negatively impact Halo? Because it’s pointless gimmicks to get people to buy the game. “Oh cool I can put a pink camo on my gun, and make the reticle a smiley face!!” The gaming community should purchase/play games for game mechanics NOT CUSTOMIZATION.

I understand what you’re saying and I agree, but I think the “casuals” far outweigh the competitive “hardcore” and as a result the hardcores usually take a back seat in everything. It’s just the way things are…

> Frank O’Connor, stumbling upon this thread, proceeded to announce the following to the employees of 343i:
>
> “Alright gang, the community doesn’t want ‘CoD’ elements in Halo, so I guess we need to get rid of guns, bullets, soldiers, anything military and the first-person perspective.”

LMAO! YOU WIN 1000000000000 INTERNETS!

> While I know you’d like to think that everyone in the world cares about how pretty their gun looks, in reality some people would rather be having fun actually engaging in what they they bought the game for. Playing multiplayer.
>
> And you’d like to know why it would negatively impact Halo? Because it’s pointless gimmicks to get people to buy the game. “Oh cool I can put a pink camo on my gun, and make the reticle a smiley face!!” The gaming community should purchase/play games for game mechanics NOT CUSTOMIZATION.

You have purchased, and are currently wearing, armor to dress up your Spartan.

Your Opinion = Invalid