If the Forerunner’s had the tech to survive the Halo’s why did they not all use it. Why did only a criminal get to use one? Did everyone just agree that killing themselves was the best way to starve out the flood? Did no one think for a second they could just sleep through it?
lol I think I saw someone saying that they went “out of the galaxy”, but I never actually have read about something like that in any of the books I read so I wonder too. I really don’t remember if the council was wiped out or not (really forgot some details from the last two books). But I think they somehow failed to evacuate properly (I think it’s stated in the Terminals from Halo 3)
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The answer you seek is in the books…
I was always under the impression that the Forerunners, for some reason, felt that by using the rings and destroying all sentient life that they must sacrifice themselves in the process to make up for their aforementioned destruction.
Someone else may know better.
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> The answer you seek is in the books…
Thank you for taking the time to explain to me why they did what was stated above. You’re conversation skills are on-par with 343i’s writing abilities
They left to other galaxies, and the ones who fired it, fired it from the ark, safe from the effects of the rings. All species DNA (and living specimens) were stored on the ark for repopulation of the milky way galaxy. The books and Halo Legends explain all of this in greater detail and highly recommend that you watch/read them.
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Well bud put it simply this way: I have no desire to explain this to you, so I gave you a way to find the answer. Listen to Avenged here, he took the time to explain it in a sentence. Now maybe you can find answers to world hunger and poverty…
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No desire to explain? Nice, you’re already contradicted yourself. If you had no desire then why enter the thread and reply? Answers to World hunger and Poverty? Easy, rice and social programs.
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> No desire to explain? Nice, you’re already contradicted yourself. If you had no desire then why enter the thread and reply? Answers to World hunger and Poverty? Easy, rice and social programs.
So I could tell you how to find the answer to your question…duh. Not very bright are you bud?
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This fight is pointless and has no sentimental value to it.
> They left to other galaxies, and the ones who fired it, fired it from the ark, safe from the effects of the rings. All species DNA (and living specimens) were stored on the ark for repopulation of the milky way galaxy. The books and Halo Legends explain all of this in greater detail and highly recommend that you watch/read them.
Interesting, so it would then be possible for the Forerunners to return in full?
And I took a look at the Halo Wiki article on the Forerunners and here’s what it said:
> At first, the Forerunners were reluctant to use the Array, believing that they should continue to embrace the Mantle and to protect life rather than to destroy it. This led to great stretches of anguished debate and even civil war, but eventually it was decided that the Array was the only means of successfully stopping the Flood threat.[12] The Gravemind managed to convince a Contender-class AI, 05-032 Mendicant Bias, to unite with the Flood. Mendicant Bias soon led his massive fleet in an attack on the “Maginot Line”, the final barrier between what the Forerunners could actively protect and what they were forced to cede to the Flood. At last, the Forerunners exhausted every alternative and activated the Halo Array, killing themselves and all sentient life of sufficient biomass in the Milky Way, with the exception of those species safely placed on the Ark.
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> According to 343 Guilty Spark, at least the Librarian is alive, and he knows where to find her. It has been said that the remaining Forerunners made an exodus out of the Milky Way Galaxy to which no one knows their current fate. This has also been said of the Precursors. After the Array was fired and the Flood had been eliminated, the Forerunners left behind an automated system of automatons, much like the Sentinels, and AIs to spearhead the reseeding of the galaxy with data logs, embryos, and specimens contained on Forerunner ships. The Sentinels sacrificed themselves in order to continue the planned activation of the array, with their last military presence and members of their parent species (Forerunners) defending the Ark until the Didact activated the Halo Array, cleansing the galaxy of the flood.[citation needed]
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This is coming from the person who couldn’t solve World hunger and Poverty.
> This fight is pointless and has no sentimental value to it.
I agree and thank you for the answer you gave above.
Because the Composer’s design was…morally iffy. For one thing, trying to revert the composed mind back to organism only created abominations. Also, the Forerunners, the Didact especially, believed in the Mantle very wholeheartedly, so if they were going to kill the whole galaxy to save its future, they figured they might as well go down with it. But this is where the lines get foggy. In Halo 2, Guilty Spark said that the Forerunners died. As in all of them. But we know that the Ur Didact survived and the Bornstellar Didact most likely survived. Forgive me if this is wrong, but I haven’t read the Forerunner books yet. Well the Bornstellar Didact couldn’t have been alone on the Ark, and for all we know the Librarian might still be cooped up on Mt. Kilimanjaro. So the remaining Forerunners, per lore, left the ORION ARM of the Milky Way, not the entire galaxy. The whole subject is very obscure, and when you throw the origins of the Flood into the mix, it gets quite jumbled.
> Because the Composer’s design was…morally iffy. For one thing, trying to revert the composed mind back to organism only created abominations. Also, the Forerunners, the Didact especially, believed in the Mantle very wholeheartedly, so if they were going to kill the whole galaxy to save its future, they figured they might as well go down with it. But this is where the lines get foggy. In Halo 2, Guilty Spark said that the Forerunners died. As in all of them. But we know that the Ur Didact survived and the Bornstellar Didact most likely survived. Forgive me if this is wrong, but I haven’t read the Forerunner books yet. Well the Bornstellar Didact couldn’t have been alone on the Ark, and for all we know the Librarian might still be cooped up on Mt. Kilimanjaro. So the remaining Forerunners, per lore, left the ORION ARM of the Milky Way, not the entire galaxy. The whole subject is very obscure, and when you throw the origins of the Flood into the mix, it gets quite jumbled.
But I wasn’t talking about the composer I was talking about the ball thing he was kept in. Why wasn’t their worlds dedicated to having these things?
> > They left to other galaxies, and the ones who fired it, fired it from the ark, safe from the effects of the rings. All species DNA (and living specimens) were stored on the ark for repopulation of the milky way galaxy. The books and Halo Legends explain all of this in greater detail and highly recommend that you watch/read them.
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> Interesting, so it would then be possible for the Forerunners to return in full?
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> And I took a look at the Halo Wiki article on the Forerunners and here’s what it said:
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> > At first, the Forerunners were reluctant to use the Array, believing that they should continue to embrace the Mantle and to protect life rather than to destroy it. This led to great stretches of anguished debate and even civil war, but eventually it was decided that the Array was the only means of successfully stopping the Flood threat.[12] The Gravemind managed to convince a Contender-class AI, 05-032 Mendicant Bias, to unite with the Flood. Mendicant Bias soon led his massive fleet in an attack on the “Maginot Line”, the final barrier between what the Forerunners could actively protect and what they were forced to cede to the Flood. At last, the Forerunners exhausted every alternative and activated the Halo Array, killing themselves and all sentient life of sufficient biomass in the Milky Way, with the exception of those species safely placed on the Ark.
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> > According to 343 Guilty Spark, at least the Librarian is alive, and he knows where to find her. It has been said that the remaining Forerunners made an exodus out of the Milky Way Galaxy to which no one knows their current fate. This has also been said of the Precursors. After the Array was fired and the Flood had been eliminated, the Forerunners left behind an automated system of automatons, much like the Sentinels, and AIs to spearhead the reseeding of the galaxy with data logs, embryos, and specimens contained on Forerunner ships. The Sentinels sacrificed themselves in order to continue the planned activation of the array, with their last military presence and members of their parent species (Forerunners) defending the Ark until the Didact activated the Halo Array, cleansing the galaxy of the flood.[citation needed]
Its kind of confusing because in Halo Legends, it says they killed themselves and that the others (survivors) left to other galaxies so that they could leave the mantle in our responsibility so it kind of contradicts itself. Probably SOME forerunners died but MOST left the galaxy in search of another. The Precursors also left for another galaxy after the precursor-forerunner war so both the precursors and forerunners are still alive out there somewhere.
> > Because the Composer’s design was…morally iffy. For one thing, trying to revert the composed mind back to organism only created abominations. Also, the Forerunners, the Didact especially, believed in the Mantle very wholeheartedly, so if they were going to kill the whole galaxy to save its future, they figured they might as well go down with it. But this is where the lines get foggy. In Halo 2, Guilty Spark said that the Forerunners died. As in all of them. But we know that the Ur Didact survived and the Bornstellar Didact most likely survived. Forgive me if this is wrong, but I haven’t read the Forerunner books yet. Well the Bornstellar Didact couldn’t have been alone on the Ark, and for all we know the Librarian might still be cooped up on Mt. Kilimanjaro. So the remaining Forerunners, per lore, left the ORION ARM of the Milky Way, not the entire galaxy. The whole subject is very obscure, and when you throw the origins of the Flood into the mix, it gets quite jumbled.
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> But I wasn’t talking about the composer I was talking about the ball thing he was kept in. Why wasn’t their worlds dedicated to having these things?
The ball thing he was kept in is called a cryptum, but that is not what kept him safe. Halo 4 takes place on requiem which is a SHIELD WORLD. A shield world is an artificial planet made by the forerunners that protects the inhabitants inside from the affects of the Halo Rings, meaning anything inside requiem would survive after the firing of the rings. Onyx and the unnamed Shield World in Halo Wars are more examples of shield worlds in the Halo universe.
The halos were an absolute last resort. They didn’t think they’d lose so hard so quick.
Also, most the forerunners DID die off with the halos, only those on the lesser ark (the one in halo 3) survived, and that was the IsoDidact and a bunch of Life Workers.
According to Silentium, the last big stand of the forerunners was at the greater ark, and they lost.
The shield worlds were the Didact’s idea, and the council, lead by builders, generally didn’t like him and avoided anything relating to him. Using them as shelters probably never crossed their mind.
> > > Because the Composer’s design was…morally iffy. For one thing, trying to revert the composed mind back to organism only created abominations. Also, the Forerunners, the Didact especially, believed in the Mantle very wholeheartedly, so if they were going to kill the whole galaxy to save its future, they figured they might as well go down with it. But this is where the lines get foggy. In Halo 2, Guilty Spark said that the Forerunners died. As in all of them. But we know that the Ur Didact survived and the Bornstellar Didact most likely survived. Forgive me if this is wrong, but I haven’t read the Forerunner books yet. Well the Bornstellar Didact couldn’t have been alone on the Ark, and for all we know the Librarian might still be cooped up on Mt. Kilimanjaro. So the remaining Forerunners, per lore, left the ORION ARM of the Milky Way, not the entire galaxy. The whole subject is very obscure, and when you throw the origins of the Flood into the mix, it gets quite jumbled.
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> > But I wasn’t talking about the composer I was talking about the ball thing he was kept in. Why wasn’t their worlds dedicated to having these things?
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> The ball thing he was kept in is called a cryptum, but that is not what kept him safe. Halo 4 takes place on requiem which is a SHIELD WORLD. A shield world is an artificial planet made by the forerunners that protects the inhabitants inside from the affects of the Halo Rings, meaning anything inside requiem would survive after the firing of the rings. Onyx and the unnamed Shield World in Halo Wars are more examples of shield worlds in the Halo universe.
Yeah I know their names and what they do but what I don’t understand is why no one is living in them. If they have this tech why abandon it?
> > > > Because the Composer’s design was…morally iffy. For one thing, trying to revert the composed mind back to organism only created abominations. Also, the Forerunners, the Didact especially, believed in the Mantle very wholeheartedly, so if they were going to kill the whole galaxy to save its future, they figured they might as well go down with it. But this is where the lines get foggy. In Halo 2, Guilty Spark said that the Forerunners died. As in all of them. But we know that the Ur Didact survived and the Bornstellar Didact most likely survived. Forgive me if this is wrong, but I haven’t read the Forerunner books yet. Well the Bornstellar Didact couldn’t have been alone on the Ark, and for all we know the Librarian might still be cooped up on Mt. Kilimanjaro. So the remaining Forerunners, per lore, left the ORION ARM of the Milky Way, not the entire galaxy. The whole subject is very obscure, and when you throw the origins of the Flood into the mix, it gets quite jumbled.
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> > > But I wasn’t talking about the composer I was talking about the ball thing he was kept in. Why wasn’t their worlds dedicated to having these things?
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> > The ball thing he was kept in is called a cryptum, but that is not what kept him safe. Halo 4 takes place on requiem which is a SHIELD WORLD. A shield world is an artificial planet made by the forerunners that protects the inhabitants inside from the affects of the Halo Rings, meaning anything inside requiem would survive after the firing of the rings. Onyx and the unnamed Shield World in Halo Wars are more examples of shield worlds in the Halo universe.
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> Yeah I know their names and what they do but what I don’t understand is why no one is living in them. If they have this tech why abandon it?
The shield worlds were the Didact’s idea, and the council, lead by builders, generally didn’t like him and avoided anything relating to him. Using them as shelters probably never crossed their mind.
> > > > > Because the Composer’s design was…morally iffy. For one thing, trying to revert the composed mind back to organism only created abominations. Also, the Forerunners, the Didact especially, believed in the Mantle very wholeheartedly, so if they were going to kill the whole galaxy to save its future, they figured they might as well go down with it. But this is where the lines get foggy. In Halo 2, Guilty Spark said that the Forerunners died. As in all of them. But we know that the Ur Didact survived and the Bornstellar Didact most likely survived. Forgive me if this is wrong, but I haven’t read the Forerunner books yet. Well the Bornstellar Didact couldn’t have been alone on the Ark, and for all we know the Librarian might still be cooped up on Mt. Kilimanjaro. So the remaining Forerunners, per lore, left the ORION ARM of the Milky Way, not the entire galaxy. The whole subject is very obscure, and when you throw the origins of the Flood into the mix, it gets quite jumbled.
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> > > > But I wasn’t talking about the composer I was talking about the ball thing he was kept in. Why wasn’t their worlds dedicated to having these things?
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> > > The ball thing he was kept in is called a cryptum, but that is not what kept him safe. Halo 4 takes place on requiem which is a SHIELD WORLD. A shield world is an artificial planet made by the forerunners that protects the inhabitants inside from the affects of the Halo Rings, meaning anything inside requiem would survive after the firing of the rings. Onyx and the unnamed Shield World in Halo Wars are more examples of shield worlds in the Halo universe.
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> > Yeah I know their names and what they do but what I don’t understand is why no one is living in them. If they have this tech why abandon it?
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> The shield worlds were the Didact’s idea, and the council, lead by builders, generally didn’t like him and avoided anything relating to him. Using them as shelters probably never crossed their mind.
I’ve having a really hard time imagining Forerunner’s who built the Halo’s and were hinted at making humans (or Human’s being Forerunners) being complete idiots.