So I originally thought that Scorpio was stupid and a waste of money, but now that I think about it and do a little research it very well could be another Xbox 360, being the best bang for your buck piece of gaming hardware around (if you don’t already own an Xbox One). I myself am an avid gamer on both Xbox and PC. I built my own PC and I know quite a bit about PC hardware, and using that knowledge I hypothesized that Scorpio would cost $600. After a bit of digging I found that AMD, a company that makes the APU hardware in the Xbox One and other PC components, was trying to have consoles (presumably Scorpio) use two graphics cards. Then I started wondering, two of what card could play games at 4K 60FPS low settings? After watching some benchmarks and adding a bit of extra performance (consoles extract the most out of their hardware), I came to the conclusion that it would probably use two RX 470s ($300 total), but Xbox also probably gets deals from AMD so it’s probably going to be $250 total for the GPUs. Going with the assumption Xbox is going to use all of AMD’s hardware we are probably going to see an $80-100 Zen CPU that’s being released later this year. Xbox can probably get a $40 motherboard, $20 for one 8GB stick of RAM, and your choice of HDD storage. So in conclusion Scorpio will probably cost $400-500 depending on storage. Also You can get a 55" 4K TV (without HDR because that’s just a gimmick when it comes to TVs right now) for $500. Meaning the entire setup (if you don’t already have a 4K TV) will likely be $900-1000. A similar PC setup would cost $1200. You’re sacrificing customization, game selection, and in-game accuracy for $200. You could make an argument about either side, but I think that Scorpio is still a viable option. Just don’t get the Xbox One S. It uses upscaled fake 4K that doesn’t even look as good as true 1440p. But not only will Scorpio bring 4K to the mainstream, but if it truly uses two GPUs it will change the PC market forever. The hype is real ladies and gentlemen.
It really doesn’t matter how well they try to sell it. I just bought the Xbox One a few years ago at $400. As long as the price tag still has two 0’s after it, I aint buying it. It just isn’t worth it, especially with all the -Yoink- games that are being put out these days. I’ll stick with the Xbox One until such time it gets replaced with the 9th generation.
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> It really doesn’t matter how well they try to sell it. I just bought the Xbox One a few years ago at $400. As long as the price tag still has two 0’s after it, I aint buying it. It just isn’t worth it, especially with all the -Yoink- games that are being put out these days. I’ll stick with the Xbox One until such time it gets replaced with the 9th generation.
I seem to recall saying that Scorpio would be the best value for someone who DOES NOT already have an Xbox One. Since you already have an Xbox One, that does not apply to you. And consoles have cost over $100 ever since 1996 with the Nintendo 64. Good luck EVER finding a 9th gen console for less than $100. It’ll decline to somewhere around $200 then they’ll stop making them, making the price go up. But that’ll be after the 10th generation is released. Also what do you mean when you say that you wont buy anything with two 0s at the end? You just said you bought an Xbox One when it was $400 (should’ve waited BTW).
I’m not saying that sticking to the Xbox One is a bad idea. That’s exactly what I’m doing. This post was meant for people to look at and be fully informed about what the future of Scorpio will likely be. And the people who do not yet have an Xbox One looking for one in the market
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> > It really doesn’t matter how well they try to sell it. I just bought the Xbox One a few years ago at $400. As long as the price tag still has two 0’s after it, I aint buying it. It just isn’t worth it, especially with all the -Yoink- games that are being put out these days. I’ll stick with the Xbox One until such time it gets replaced with the 9th generation.
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> I seem to recall saying that Scorpio would be the best value for someone who DOES NOT already have an Xbox One. Since you already have an Xbox One, that does not apply to you. And consoles have cost over $100 ever since 1996 with the Nintendo 64. Good luck EVER finding a 9th gen console for less than $100. It’ll decline to somewhere around $200 then they’ll stop making them, making the price go up. But that’ll be after the 10th generation is released. Also what do you mean when you say that you wont buy anything with two 0s at the end? You just said you bought an Xbox One when it was $400 (should’ve waited BTW).
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> I’m not saying that sticking to the Xbox One is a bad idea. That’s exactly what I’m doing. This post was meant for people to look at and be fully informed about what the future of Scorpio will likely be. And the people who do not yet have an Xbox One looking for one in the market
I meant any more consoles THIS generation, I won’t buy with that many digits.
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> > > It really doesn’t matter how well they try to sell it. I just bought the Xbox One a few years ago at $400. As long as the price tag still has two 0’s after it, I aint buying it. It just isn’t worth it, especially with all the -Yoink- games that are being put out these days. I’ll stick with the Xbox One until such time it gets replaced with the 9th generation.
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You wont, and that’s fine. I was again talking about the people who do not yet have an Xbox One. I personally wouldn’t buy another Xbox One regardless of the price. I already have one so it’s a waste of money, but not for the people who don’t have one yet. You following?
I been doing researching too. its for tv that my dad says hes going to buy me one and found a lot of 4k tvs cheap and some were smart tvs. I found This online this being a 4k smart tv I found very cheap since being smart AND 4K.
EDIT: I just found a even better tv so far for 629$ and have the same size. Link
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> I been doing researching too. its for tv that my dad says hes going to buy me one and found a lot of 4k tvs cheap and some were smart tvs. I found This online this being a 4k smart tv I found very cheap since being smart AND 4K.
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> EDIT: I just found a even better tv so far for 629$ and have the same size. Link
Vizio gives you for hang for your buck. If your parents have a sams club or Costco membership it may be worth a look there. I game on a 60" Samsung. I enjoy it.
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> > I been doing researching too. its for tv that my dad says hes going to buy me one and found a lot of 4k tvs cheap and some were smart tvs. I found This online this being a 4k smart tv I found very cheap since being smart AND 4K.
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> Vizio gives you for hang for your buck. If your parents have a sams club or Costco membership it may be worth a look there. I game on a 60" Samsung. I enjoy it.
I never thought of looking at Costco tvs but I don’t think my dad has a membership for Costco. Plus I am putting it in my Bed room which is pretty small so I need a decent size tv.
I don’t see a big demand for Scorpio yet.
Off topic, I wonder if the next Xbox will be called the Xbox 2? Weird.
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> I don’t see a big demand for Scorpio yet.
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It might be called the Xbox 2180 since the scorpio is 4k and the next one would be even better.
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> It really doesn’t matter how well they try to sell it. I just bought the Xbox One a few years ago at $400. As long as the price tag still has two 0’s after it, I aint buying it. It just isn’t worth it, especially with all the -Yoink- games that are being put out these days. I’ll stick with the Xbox One until such time it gets replaced with the 9th generation.
I agree! As long as Halo 6 and 7 is one Xbox One, I am not going anywhere near Scorpio! Hopefully Microsoft won’t start to get ideas!
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> > It really doesn’t matter how well they try to sell it. I just bought the Xbox One a few years ago at $400. As long as the price tag still has two 0’s after it, I aint buying it. It just isn’t worth it, especially with all the -Yoink- games that are being put out these days. I’ll stick with the Xbox One until such time it gets replaced with the 9th generation.
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> I agree! As long as Halo 6 and 7 is one Xbox One, I am not going anywhere near Scorpio! Hopefully Microsoft won’t start to get ideas!
I don’t plan on getting Scorpio either, this was meant as more of an informative post. I’m just happy AMD is pushing for lazy developers on console to support multiple GPUs. That’s great for us PC builders who already have a PC and want to put another GPU in instead of having to scrap the one we have for another one. Most of the great games are on both platforms, so if console games support two GPUs those same games that are ported must too on PC.
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Probably something more elaborate:
“Coming this Christmas…the Neo Xbox S-2 Prime! Now in Halo GREEN!”
I didn’t bother reading what you posted but I never thought this was such a big debate. Everyone around me is getting a Scorpio. They seem to be holding back on the x1 S which I think also has it’s place for people like me who already have an x1 and made the jump to 4k a while back. The 4k player alone is worth it to me(I buy alot of movies). To each their own but from my circles we have every console lol and many have PCs and will be getting Scorpio when it comes out.
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> I didn’t bother reading what you posted but I never thought this was such a big debate. Everyone around me is getting a Scorpio. They seem to be holding back on the x1 S which I think also has it’s place for people like me who already have an x1 and made the jump to 4k a while back. The 4k player alone is worth it to me(I buy alot of movies). To each their own but from my circles we have every console lol and many have PCs and will be getting Scorpio when it comes out.
Being a collector is nothing to be ashamed of. To sum it up though I think Scorpio is going to have dual RX 470s and the overall console will cost $400-500. I talk about how Scorpio will affect the console and PC market if Scorpio does indeed support dual GPUs.
I’m trading in my Xbox one day one when Scorpio comes out
I highly doubt Microsoft would put two GPUs into the Scorpio. Two GPUs double the power draw, and double the heat output. Consoles are designed to be small, and relatively energy efficient. Two GPUs would mean a hot, power hungry console, and lots of R&D to get the necessary cooling into a small form factor, bringing up the price. None of this is something Microsoft wants to deal with, not when their target audience wants a small, silent, and efficient machine in the living room. Dual GPUs can only give you two of those. Then there’s the problem of multi-GPU performance, which takes also effort on the developer side. After all, at worst we’ve seen games that perform worse in dual than single GPU configurations. (Mind you, if Microsoft decided to create a dual GPU console, they’d probably try to ease multi-GPU support on the API, and having a unified platform where everyone is guaranteed to have two GPUs would probably give more incentive for developers to make better supported games.)
Your materials cost is probably also off. You can’t simply take off-the-shelf parts, subtract a couple bucks from them, and say that this is what Microsoft pays. It doesn’t work like that. It’s not like Microsoft just goes to AMD and orders 10 million video cards at a discounted price. Same goes for any other components. The final price of the console isn’t a sum of the costs of individual components, and in all likelihood, like for most consumer electronics, the actual BOM cost of the console will be a small fraction of what the consumer will pay, with a significant portion of the cost coming from distribution, R&D, and marketing.
I can’t wait for scorpio, glad Microsoft learned their lesson from being weaker than PS4 and aren’t going to make that mistake again.
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> I highly doubt Microsoft would put two GPUs into the Scorpio. Two GPUs double the power draw, and double the heat output. Consoles are designed to be small, and relatively energy efficient. Two GPUs would mean a hot, power hungry console, and lots of R&D to get the necessary cooling into a small form factor, bringing up the price. None of this is something Microsoft wants to deal with, not when their target audience wants a small, silent, and efficient machine in the living room. Dual GPUs can only give you two of those. Then there’s the problem of multi-GPU performance, which takes also effort on the developer side. After all, at worst we’ve seen games that perform worse in dual than single GPU configurations. (Mind you, if Microsoft decided to create a dual GPU console, they’d probably try to ease multi-GPU support on the API, and having a unified platform where everyone is guaranteed to have two GPUs would probably give more incentive for developers to make better supported games.)
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Exactly. Very well said. I’m willing to bet the Scorpio will be at least in the $600-$800 dollar range.
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> > I highly doubt Microsoft would put two GPUs into the Scorpio. Two GPUs double the power draw, and double the heat output. Consoles are designed to be small, and relatively energy efficient. Two GPUs would mean a hot, power hungry console, and lots of R&D to get the necessary cooling into a small form factor, bringing up the price. None of this is something Microsoft wants to deal with, not when their target audience wants a small, silent, and efficient machine in the living room. Dual GPUs can only give you two of those. Then there’s the problem of multi-GPU performance, which takes also effort on the developer side. After all, at worst we’ve seen games that perform worse in dual than single GPU configurations. (Mind you, if Microsoft decided to create a dual GPU console, they’d probably try to ease multi-GPU support on the API, and having a unified platform where everyone is guaranteed to have two GPUs would probably give more incentive for developers to make better supported games.)
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> Exactly. Very well said. I’m willing to bet the Scorpio will be at least in the $600-$800 dollar range.
Well said indeed, but looking at the Xbox One S and Xbox 360 I’d say that the price would be $600 max. The only reason why the original Xbox One was overpriced was because Microsoft got cocky after they’re victory with the 360 and the PS4 was also overpriced.