I made a thread a little while back with a voting process on which maps 343i should remake. That thread can be found here. I’ve decided to take the general feedback and bracket the maps. So the more popular maps will be higher seeds. Please take time to vote in each bracket to figure out which map deserves a remake the most. I will update on where the bracket stands each week from now til 5 AM EST February 6th (morning after super bowl).
Please take the time to help 343i figure out which maps the community feel should be remade.
ZANZIBAR/LAST RESORT GOT THE MOST VOTES AND WON THE FINAL.
Other Noteables: SANDTRAP and STANDOFF were IN THE FINAL FOUR.
TERMINAL and RELIC are the two maps that came the closest to the finals for THE MAPS THAT HAVEN’T BEEN ON THE 360 YET AWARD!
THE PIT came in second and wins the MAP THAT HASN’T BEEN REMADE YET VOTE.
I would still like to hold discussion about remakes to sorta kill the total of threads like this that pop up each day. To be honest their are only a couple maps that I’d even like to see remade and I wouldn’t be upset if all the maps were brand new.
It’s clear that 343 plans to make SOME map remakes. This is where you come in to let everyone know which multiplayer maps you would like to see in Halo 4.
I made a chart between all the current halo fps games and did some research on what were true original maps or remakes. It is possible to argue if some maps were a literal remake or an idea born from another map like similarity.
There are around only in the low 20s real original maps out of over 60 or 70 maps made for the whole franchise with just different names. I will go find my chart, I wrote it out, and repost in a day or 2 on what are true originals that have not been remade or had inspiration on another map made. Of course some people will argue what is and isn’t since this is a forum…
…I will find my chart when I return to my house, also the vote/poll has you vote on remakes of remakes for several maps, kinda redundant but it is what it is, not stopping anyone.
> I made a chart between all the current halo fps games and did some research on what were true original maps or remakes. It is possible to argue if some maps were a literal remake or an idea born from another map like similarity.
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> There are around only in the low 20s real original maps out of over 60 or 70 maps made for the whole franchise with just different names. I will go find my chart, I wrote it out, and repost in a day or 2 on what are true originals that have not been remade or had inspiration on another map made. Of course some people will argue what is and isn’t since this is a forum…
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> …I will find my chart when I return to my house, also the vote/poll has you vote on remakes of remakes for several maps, kinda redundant but it is what it is, not stopping anyone.
I would have paired the maps like lockout/blackout up and Coag/Blood Gulch and Sidewinder/Avalanche but those maps do play differently from each other and are very controversial maps. You know? I was actual going to remove any map that has been remade but I figured I’d keep em all. I got the bracket perfectly worked out for 64 spots or I might have paired BG and Coag together.
Coagulation and sidewinder. Favourite maps of all time. Plus while we’re on the issue less MP maps based on campaign levels. It’s kind of like been there done that.
If I could have any 3 maps remade, I’d go for Waterworks, Sandtrap and Highlands. The small maps really need to be custom-designed around Halo 4’s weapon sandbox, but a quality BTB map is a quality BTB map whichever way you slice it. Would be good to see some aesthetic nods to classics such as Guardian, though.
How about none. I would rather if 343 gave us all new maps instead of wasting time and resources on ones I have already played. (Or can play via Halo 3)
Maybe I don’t understand but, uh, how does Epitaph have a seed 60 higher than Guardian? Surely people don’t actually think Epitaph is a better map than Guardian… right?
Why are Chill Out and Cold Storage seperate maps? CS is just a remake. Another point to this is that Zanzibar and Last Resort are placed as a single vote. A map and it’s remakes should count as a single vote.
Just found another. Tombstone and Hang 'em High are seperate.
BLAAARGH! So is Black Out and Lock Out! And yet Beaver Creek and Battle Creek count as a single vote. WHAT IS THIS? I DON’T EVEN
> Why are Chill Out and Cold Storage seperate maps? CS is just a remake. Another point to this is that Zanzibar and Last Resort are placed as a single vote. A map and it’s remakes should count as a single vote.
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> Just found another. Tombstone and Hang 'em High are seperate.
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> BLAAARGH! So is Black Out and Lock Out! And yet Beaver Creek and Battle Creek count as a single vote. WHAT IS THIS? I DON’T EVEN
I needed the bracket to work perfectly for 64 votes… Plus I made sure to not pair up controversial maps for good reasoning. Take Blackout and Lockout for instance. Lockout is winning big and Blackout is losing big. The only two that aren’t paired that I wanted to pair was Cold Storage and Chill out but then one of the maps would have had a bye week. So it works out this way.
> Maybe I don’t understand but, uh, how does Epitaph have a seed 60 higher than Guardian? Surely people don’t actually think Epitaph is a better map than Guardian… right?
How are you even looking at it that way? Guardianis num ber 2… Second best map to Valhalla and Epitaph is number 63 right beside last place to Snowbound. Guardian = 2nd best map. Epitaph = 63rd out of 64 maps.
Blood Gulch (or Coag for that matter), Sidewinder (or Avalanche), Terminal, Containment, and Valhalla in the same Halo would be insane. Not that the chances are high for this to happen, I’m just sayin’
For the love of God, 343 do NOT remake any maps in Halo 4, you will all ask for remakes and they will need to be changed due to the engine will be different, making the map slightly different and then you will complain.
Just like Blackout in Halo 3.
Then the jump height could be different, movement, a lot of things, hence why some remakes for Reach don’t work.
> For the love of God, 343 do NOT remake any maps in Halo 4, you will all ask for remakes and they will need to be changed due to the engine will be different, making the map slightly different and then you will complain.
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> Just like Blackout in Halo 3.
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> Then the jump height could be different, movement, a lot of things, hence why some remakes for Reach don’t work.
Like Hemorrhage, Coag, and Blood Gulch.
Remakes are fun, and cool, but in the end, people WILL complain, because they are not like the originals, and they don’t play like the originals.
But if they do remake some more maps, I think they should remake some of the PC only maps, because then the amount of people complaining about how the map doesn’t play the same as the originals is very small, vs a remake of a map that’s been played by both the PC and the Xbox Halo communities.
