Maybe not the actual Ancient Human armor, but a MJOLNIR variant that’s heavily inspired by it perhaps? I was watching some of GreenSkull’s youtube videos and when taking a quick peak at his twitter account, I noticed the armor on the very right of his banner looked particularly interesting. To me it bears a striking resemblance to Ancient Human armor seen in the Halo 4 terminals.
What do you think this could mean? Is this regular MJOLNIR armor that’s inspired by the design, or is it more like the Prefect armor? The Forerunner Prefect armor was discovered in Trevelyan and Huragok were used to integrate the armor with human technology and create the Prefect MJOLNIR armor class. It would be interesting if a cache of Ancient Human tech or weaponry was discovered and integrated into the UNSC’s military. I was already excited to eventually read all the armor descriptions for lore info, but now I’m really excited to read more about this one…
Update. This comes from Greenskull’s look at Halo 5’s customization. I really like this armor.
Easy, they would have saved it for study. Humans and San 'Shyuum had developed weapons so deadly the Prometheans had little to no defense against them. Then consider the fact humans had defeated the Flood and they were preserved to find out how, I’m sure the weapons they used during the Human-Flood War would also be preserved for study.
Of course that’s only if the armor is like the Prefect. It could always end up that the design was simply inspired by what the Chief recorded from the Terminals.
“Built of knowledge stolen from enigmatic ruins on a dead world and materials stripped from the vault of shattered starship, the HELLCAT is both utterly alien and strangely familiar.”
I wonder if the UNSC discovered these blueprints on Heian or did they discover even more Ancient Human worlds? Heian does look like it could be too ancient to belong to the Tier 1 humans. I always thought it could be from the “Dark Ages” as Forthencho called it, since he mentioned he has seen ruins like that on several worlds. I wonder if this shattered starship is also of human origin? Looks like the Forerunner failed to cleanse the galaxy of all the human’s presence.
Reading it’s description, I think it is confirmed then that it is reverse-engineering tech obtained from ancient human remnants.
I don’t know about you, but these little details do add a lot of cohesion to the whole lore and makes it so much more enjoyable. Good job in there, 343I.
The lore details are always the best part. I find it interesting that it says it’s strangely familiar. Does it feel familiar because it was designed by humans and they’re picking up some design details that might be shared by other modern designs, or did the Forerunner bother to include information on Tier 1 humans when they gave us a Geas? Humans could find this tech familiar the same way Forerunner tech/symbols also feel familiar to them. Then again it could be the result of “old spirits” passed down from generation to generation. Either way I want to know more!
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> It’s definitely based on Ancient Human design.
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> “Built of knowledge stolen from enigmatic ruins on a dead world and materials stripped from the vault of shattered starship, the HELLCAT is both utterly alien and strangely familiar.”
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> I wonder if the UNSC discovered these blueprints on Heian or did they discover even more Ancient Human worlds? Heian does look like it could be too ancient to belong to the Tier 1 humans. I always thought it could be from the “Dark Ages” as Forthencho called it, since he mentioned he has seen ruins like that on several worlds. I wonder if this shattered starship is also of human origin? Looks like the Forerunner failed to cleanse the galaxy of all the human’s presence.
I think after Charum Hakkor fell, the last human fleet fled and destroyed the last of their own worlds in a scorched earth campaign. Maybe the technology came from wherever this fleet eventually ended its mission.
I always assumed all Ancient Human tach was destroyed following their defeat at Charum Hakkor. Now I kind of realize, considering the Human Empire rivaled that of the Forerunners, that thinking is kind of illogical. It’s kind of impossible to destroy all of the technology of a species when it spans a galaxy.
Nice to see some of the Ancient Human designs are making a return.
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> I think after Charum Hakkor fell, the last human fleet fled and destroyed the last of their own worlds in a scorched earth campaign. Maybe the technology came from wherever this fleet eventually ended its mission.
Yes, I don’t believe we ever learned what happened to that Fleet. They had scorched their own worlds when they saw defeat was inevitable, but where they went from there is unknown. I suppose they could have self destructed, considering a lot of humans committed suicide to avoid capture. I think it would be more interesting if this Fleet survived though. It was also mentioned that during the fall of Charum Hakkor that the Forerunner had blocked Slipspace and cutoff the planet from reinforcements. It would be interesting if multiple Fleets had retreated and forged one big Flotilla somewhere. They could have left the Galaxy or perhaps settled on some backwater planet. That is if there were any areas of space they Forerunner didn’t already control. Even if they were killed by the Halo Array, any colony they built before the activation would still exist.
I think we’ve explored Forerunner ruins long enough. Time to explore other ruins…
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> Yes, I don’t believe we ever learned what happened to that Fleet. They had scorched their own worlds when they saw defeat was inevitable, but where they went from there is unknown. I suppose they could have self destructed, considering a lot of humans committed suicide to avoid capture. I think it would be more interesting if this Fleet survived though. It was also mentioned that during the fall of Charum Hakkor that the Forerunner had blocked Slipspace and cutoff the planet from reinforcements. It would be interesting if multiple Fleets had retreated and forged one big Flotilla somewhere. They could have left the Galaxy or perhaps settled on some backwater planet. That is if there were any areas of space they Forerunner didn’t already control. Even if they were killed by the Halo Array, any colony they built before the activation would still exist.
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> I think we’ve explored Forerunner ruins long enough. Time to explore other ruins…
Woah, where does this info come from? I’ve never heard of this before.
If it looks as good as it does in the terminals, then it may be a difficult choice between it and my Helioskrill. I love Ancient Humanity and their armor, but the screencap makes it look a little strange.
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> Woah, where does this info come from? I’ve never heard of this before.
Well the part about the Fleets surviving is just speculation on my part, but the rest of the info comes from The Forerunner Saga.
Halo Cryptum Chapter 12, Page 117-118
“The Didact’s fleets cut off this system from the replenishing armadas of the San’Shyuum.”
Here it’s mentioned that the system was cutoff from San’Shyuum fleets, however Primordium goes on to acknowledge human fleets had also survived and regrouped following the fall of Charum Hakkor.
Halo Primordium Chapter 16, Page 155-156"That is the Greater Tiger. See’ -he drew his finger in the air- 'there’s the tail, dimmer than the eyes and teeth. Human forces retreated here after Charum Hakkor. This was our last front - forty prime cruisers, ten first-rate tuned platforms-"
“Because all the worlds here are slagged ruins, polluted for millions of years by weapons our forces - human forces- unleashed when they saw defeat was inevitable.”
Gamelpar mentions that it was their “last front”, which could mean that the human Fleets stood their ground and fought to the death or even self-destructed to avoid capture, but I think it would be more interesting if they survived and retreated into the unknown. We now know that the Forerunner were unable to completely erase the humans from existence, since their tech or designs were just found by the UNSC, so it wouldn’t be that hard to believe they also missed a few ships who managed to slip away.
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> “Built of knowledge stolen from enigmatic ruins on a dead world and materials stripped from the vault of shattered starship, the HELLCAT is both utterly alien and strangely familiar.”
That is a horrible description.
They randomly found stuff and put it together because why not?
