MLG is considering ramping it up to 110% damage, which would make the BR a 4 shot while DMR is still 5 shot, balancing the weapons.
Well, thats it, anyone think this would be really cool? To atleast try out? I think itd be cool if players spawned with DMR & BR in mlg.
It would all come down to kill times. Maybe then the DMR would be underpowered 
but then the BR would be OP against all the other weapons
> but then the BR would be OP against all the other weapons
No it wouldnt.
Snipe is super easy and overpowered in h4.
Rockets are normal, but theyre rockets. Always going to be worth picking up.
Railgun (my suspected replacement for GL) will still charge in 1/2 the time the BR takes to kill.
Boltshot (my suspected replacement for CQC) will still wreck if timed right.
> > but then the BR would be OP against all the other weapons
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> No it wouldnt.
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> Snipe is super easy and overpowered in h4.
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> Rockets are normal, but theyre rockets. Always going to be worth picking up.
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> Railgun (my suspected replacement for GL) will still charge in 1/2 the time the BR takes to kill.
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> Boltshot (my suspected replacement for CQC) will still wreck if timed right.
im not talking about the power weapons,
> > > but then the BR would be OP against all the other weapons
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> > No it wouldnt.
> >
> > Snipe is super easy and overpowered in h4.
> >
> > Rockets are normal, but theyre rockets. Always going to be worth picking up.
> >
> > Railgun (my suspected replacement for GL) will still charge in 1/2 the time the BR takes to kill.
> >
> > Boltshot (my suspected replacement for CQC) will still wreck if timed right.
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> im not talking about the power weapons,
Well LR is a bit too long range for mlg, so that wont be in.
AR is too easy to aim, along with its udnerpowered counterparts.
Carbine is basically same role, so no need for it really. But 110% damage (if they DO want carbine in) would problem bring it down to a 6-7 shot instead of 8.
Problem is DR has MUCH better range than the BR so at a longer range the BR will still be useless.
It’ll allow it to be better up close, as the DMR is still a very strong contender in an area that the BR is supposed to have a clear advantage (just as the DMR is designed to have a clear advantage far range).
I’d be very interested in at least trying the changes. I started playing with the BR, being a super tryhard at Halo 2 and all, but recently switched to the DMR after realizing how much better it is.
Unfortunate, as I love the BR.
> > > but then the BR would be OP against all the other weapons
> >
> > No it wouldnt.
> >
> > Snipe is super easy and overpowered in h4.
> >
> > Rockets are normal, but theyre rockets. Always going to be worth picking up.
> >
> > Railgun (my suspected replacement for GL) will still charge in 1/2 the time the BR takes to kill.
> >
> > Boltshot (my suspected replacement for CQC) will still wreck if timed right.
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> im not talking about the power weapons,
the br would violate all the other precision weapons
also:i’ll never understand why people say that its so easy to snipe in halo reach/halo 4 i think its alot easier to snipe in halo 3
> Problem is DR has MUCH better range than the BR so at a longer range the BR will still be useless.
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> It’ll allow it to be better up close, as the DMR is still a very strong contender in an area that the BR is supposed to have a clear advantage (just as the DMR is designed to have a clear advantage far range).
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> I’d be very interested in at least trying the changes. I started playing with the BR, being a super tryhard at Halo 2 and all, but recently switched to the DMR after realizing how much better it is.
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> Unfortunate, as I love the BR.
Well, lets look at the biggest mlg map, which i think is/was construct. A 4 shot br would best a 5 shot DMR in atleast 50% of the sightlines.
Both are going to be very useful.
> MLG is considering ramping it up to 110% damage, w<mark>hich would make the BR a 4 shot while DMR is still 5 shot, balancing the weapons.</mark>
If what you’re saying is true, the BR would be overpowered. Easier to use than the DMR and more damage, OP.
> > > > but then the BR would be OP against all the other weapons
> > >
> > > No it wouldnt.
> > >
> > > Snipe is super easy and overpowered in h4.
> > >
> > > Rockets are normal, but theyre rockets. Always going to be worth picking up.
> > >
> > > Railgun (my suspected replacement for GL) will still charge in 1/2 the time the BR takes to kill.
> > >
> > > Boltshot (my suspected replacement for CQC) will still wreck if timed right.
> >
> > im not talking about the power weapons,
>
> Well LR is a bit too long range for <mark>mlg</mark>, so that wont be in.
> AR is too easy to aim, along with its udnerpowered counterparts.
> Carbine is basically same role, so no need for it really. But 110% damage (if they DO want carbine in) would problem bring it down to a 6-7 shot instead of 8.
oh~ so you meant mlg, in that case idc
> > MLG is considering ramping it up to 110% damage, w<mark>hich would make the BR a 4 shot while DMR is still 5 shot, balancing the weapons.</mark>
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> If what you’re saying is true, the BR would be overpowered. Easier to use than the DMR and more damage, OP.
Br would still be beaten at long range.
And while the BR is easier for the headshot, this will quicken killtimes, add weapon variety, and make you decide on which to use in what situation.
I think that that would create the BR being much > than the DMR.
Thus, not really solving anything, unless MLG wants BR to be the starting weapon.
I personally think that they are balanced now. But if changes were to come, I think this is overkill and will end up having to be fixed down the line too.
Br and dmr are fine how they are, i really dont understand what everyones talking about use the br in medium range and it excels. If your losing to the dmr its you thats the problem. The kill time may be a lil faster on dmr but why are u shooting at the same and losing to it. Ambush and get the first shot off then finish them off. Everyone acts like every dmr encounter is shot for shot and whoever has the dmr is gonna beat the other person with any other weapon.
> MLG is considering ramping it up to 110% damage, which would make the BR a 4 shot while DMR is still 5 shot, balancing the weapons.
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> Well, thats it, anyone think this would be really cool? To atleast try out? I think itd be cool if players spawned with DMR & BR in mlg.
thats not balance, that two OP weapons now
> MLG is considering ramping it up to 110% damage, which would make the BR a 4 shot while DMR is still 5 shot, balancing the weapons.
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> Well, thats it, anyone think this would be really cool? To atleast try out? I think itd be cool if players spawned with DMR & BR in mlg.
They should do it in general. That would give the BR it’s supposed advantage in close-mid and the DMR would retain anything longer than that since the BR sucks beyond that range.
> > MLG is considering ramping it up to 110% damage, w<mark>hich would make the BR a 4 shot while DMR is still 5 shot, balancing the weapons.</mark>
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> If what you’re saying is true, the BR would be overpowered. Easier to use than the DMR and more damage, OP.
Based on what? They’re many points above that indicate otherwise and you have posted none to the contrary.
they need to do this for h4 mm in general, people love the br, its why they braught it back, lets make it a go to weapon again, over the dmr, which sadly seems to still rule the mm games atm
> > MLG is considering ramping it up to 110% damage, which would make the BR a 4 shot while DMR is still 5 shot, balancing the weapons.
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> > Well, thats it, anyone think this would be really cool? To atleast try out? I think itd be cool if players spawned with DMR & BR in mlg.
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> thats not balance, that two OP weapons now
Your joking, arent you? Not only does damage increase work for the power weapons (mind blowing, right?), the powerweapons are already way too easy to use IE: sniper
Also, ARs luckily wont be in mlg.
> > > MLG is considering ramping it up to 110% damage, w<mark>hich would make the BR a 4 shot while DMR is still 5 shot, balancing the weapons.</mark>
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> > If what you’re saying is true, the BR would be overpowered. Easier to use than the DMR and more damage, OP.
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> Based on what? They’re many points above that indicate otherwise and you have posted none to the contrary.
Based on the amount of aim assist the BR has, and how it would have a kill time faster by 0.05 seconds. Also DMR has bloom, and the BR doesn’t.
The solution here isn’t to buff the BR’s damage, it’s to decrease the DMR’s fire rate by a small amount, maybe a kill time total of 0.1 less. Making it’s kill time 1.55 seconds, compared to the 1.68 seconds kill time of the BR. The Carbine, Light Rifle, and the BR are all balanced with each other by kill time, but the BR has a little too much aim assist in that aspect. So, lowering the aim assist of the BR would make it balanced with a DMR with a slightly slower ROF.
A damage buff for the BR would just make it OP, unless the rate of fire was quit slower. So I think my solution is a viable one.