HCS should be its own game

why do you think that the campaign was so bad? they focused all of their efforts on competitive multiplayer, and warzone was btb’s replacement so the casual community wouldn’t feel left out.

Because bad writing?

You do realize that all the Halos before also had and I quote “competitive multiplayer” right? Would you use this argument for Halo 1-3? What about Reach?

My point is that they spent the vast majority of their time (resources, budget, manhours) on things that had nothing to do with competitive Halo. Campaign makes up like 75% of the actual time devs spent creating Halo titles, MP does definitely get good support post launch but in terms of what they offer at launch its always pretty small.

Now we can discuss what an ideal Halo title (competitively speaking) would look like, but its obvious that we have never really seen that yet.

so you would say a 3 -Yoink!- pistol and pea-shooter AR is competitive, that SMG starts are competitive, or that AR and crap H3 pistol start was competitive, and don’t forget reach’s massive and universally despised bloom, and H4’s custom starts.

not the last two

tell that to halo infinite

Ok all of this stuff you just said is coming from a place of ignorance and I would like to explain why these things don’t matter.

Halo’s greatest strength (or one of them anyway) is its emphasis on the sandbox, an overpowered/useless item in the sandbox (take for example Infinite’s Threat Sensor) can just be removed or not placed on the map, your own logic is horrible because I could just say “super OP REQ variants are comopetitive to you?” like nah the entire point is that they can just not put those on the maps. This is inherently why the advanced movement of newer Halos (especially 5) is dogged on is because you can’t really do anything about it balance or design wise.

I hate to break it to you dude, but they spent probably more time on Halo 5’s Campaign than they did on Halo 4’s… Halo 5’s issues were a result of poor writing and bad design choices, Campaign’s aren’t just some lazy thing they can slap together in a few months, they are what all the devs spend an overwhelming majority of their time on.

My point is that a competitive focused Halo game wouldn’t have a Campaign in the first place, they’d focus ALL of their attention towards MP.

Its been like 2 months…

My point is that post launch always focuses heavily on MP (its why we’ve never had a DLC expansion or anything before) but the Campaign itself is what they focus overwhelmingly on for launch.

If Halo Infinite is focused on HCS, that explains why all the maps are garbage, from a gameplay perspective. They look nice, but they’re not balanced or designed to support most game modes. They’re also not very fun in BR starts or Tactical Slayer. You could argue they took a lot of inspiration from trying to make basic arena style maps, instead of fun and unique Bungie maps, but arena maps just aren’t fun to begin with. They need more alternative routes and levels of height. These maps are too basic.

Either way, almost all the HCS viewers are just there for drops and not actually watching. It’s not a very interesting eSport. I don’t want to watch people NASCAR in circles sweating BR aim assist for money. I’d rather be playing myself, except, well, it’s not fun to play unless you care about BR starts and arena style maps. If you want to play any other modes, sucks to be you. 343 didn’t plan ahead on map design. They went the generic arena map route, so you can’t play but a couple modes per map.

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I’m sorry to say, your point is one of ignorance

no halo MP before H5 was ever competitively designed, it was just a fun multiplayer tacked on to a campaign, the players are the ones who it a competition in the older games. after H4’s multiplayer fell out 343 brought in an “MLG” team to work on H5’s MP so from the outset they were designing it around MP. Maybe you never noticed while playing H5’s campaign, but on normal it takes 5 bullets from the magnum to kill a promethean solder, the same number it takes to drop a spartan in MP same with the BR.

your an obvious troll I take it? Anyways I have real people to talk to so bye. Reminds me of the dude that played 2 matches of Infinite and thought they knew more than I did lol. Just so you know, people can look up your profile information via Halotracker, it is simple to “expose” people, I know for example you are a Plat player so of course you think its a super sweaty game because once you go into a lobby with people that are good you get destroyed lol.

no i’m not a troll

stat flaming is against community guidelines my guy not that they police that any more

yes, I’m in plat and only because this game’s ranking system is trash and no i don’t think halo is a sweaty game 343 is trying to make it so but they are running it into the ground while they’re at it.

if you want a sweaty AF game go play MW2019 in the shoothouse or the ship ment playlist or for an even sweatier game go play asseto corsa competizione, or dirt rally 2.0

k thanks by, enjoy kissing up to 343 as I see you do in most of your posts.