Haven is a poor map

Games Other Halo
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I am really frustrated by Haven. First of all, every time this map comes up, everyone votes for it, even over maps like Complex and Solace. Secondly, the corridors are too long, with too little cover. And third, at the beginning of every match, there is a giant firefight in the middle that can last as long as a couple minutes.

Now, I will say that - part of my frustration - is the fact that (no offense to you 343, but it’s the truth) the matchmaking system is very poor, Or, moreover, the team distribution based on skill. Most matches I get complete derps on my team who can’t help me out, and then I get double teamed over and over and over again.

So these are two things I would like to see fixed: The map Haven, and the Team Distribution code.

Thanks for reading and trying to understand my frustrations!

  • Alpha Spartan A
2

God Yoinkin’ thank you. Someone else who thinks the same. I hate Haven so much just because everyone votes for it and I can’t play on the other maps.

3

I’m glad I’m not the only one who hates it, I think it’s absolutely terrible in SWAT as well

4

Well it’s not as bad as Ragnarok

5

Longbow is my least favorite map.

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I actually think Haven is one of the better maps, certainly better than Complex. It does get voted a lot though, which can get annoying.

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1- haven is one of the better maps in the game, and most would agree.

2-complex is terrible. its way too big for 4v4, not even sure why its in this playlist. solace works better for objective than slayer.

3- long, curved corridors with little cover help fast combat. you can’t see halfway across the map with them. if your caught in them, you have a fast paced firefight with little chance on either opponent escaping.

4- the center area is the overflow area of the map, as well as the fastest way to get around. there will always be many firefights here.

  1. the matchmaking system is still properly ranking people to their proper skill levels. it is also a pretty unstable system at the moment, and is being fixed.
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So is this thread about Haven, or bad teammates? Regardless, I really enjoy Haven though, and if you don’t want to play with other random players, get some of your local friends, it’s a blast, regardless of the map.

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> Well it’s not as bad as Ragnarok

I love this. People say they want halo 3 back yet they hate the halo 3 map.

(Not u sayin u liked 3 better)

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havens two problems:
1.) its voted too often, as you said
2.) for a (one line of symmetry) symmetrical map, the spawns are stupid. The spawns shoulda been placed at each end of the half-circle, giving both teams the same access to the map and the weapons on it. instead the team that spawns outside the half circle has limited access.

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Im sorry that you don’t think that the map is that great maybe they will see that and update there map. Halo 4 just came out so they are still working on that for you to fix all the main bugs and problems.

12

I just stopped playing Infinity Slayer without at least one other person. I usually play Big Team if I’m playing solo.

13

Haven is one of the better, if not the best, map in Halo 4. Complex gets my vote for worst. Although it does get voted a bit much.

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Obviously most people like it, since it always gets votes. So I doubt they’re going to change it.

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I hate haven, but i hate complex more, it’s too big for 4v4, it should be btb only

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I understand your frustrations, but I really like Haven. It reminds me of a symmetrical Guardian or Lockout, but with longer ranged engagements. The center will always be a (pardon the pun) Haven for some intense firefights, and it’ll always be a contested area. The curved hallways limit sightlines really nicely, and running up the trick ramps to top center to catch the enemy team off guard is really satisfying.

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The fight in the middle is cause of insta-spawn

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> I hate haven, but i hate complex more, it’s too big for 4v4, it should be btb only

I just don’t like Complex, period. It works well with some objective gametypes like King of the Hill or Extraction, but it’s way too big for 4v4 and too small for BTB.

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I think all the maps are done pretty well. The only change i want is to make the mantis spawn midway into the match when either the score or time is halfway complete. Do that, or just take it out all together.

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I like your idea of changing the initial spawns to the opposite ends of the half circle. That is a fantastic idea. God honest, that could change the flow of the entire game.