There’s been cheating on consoles before too.
It’s just more common on PC.
There’s cheating in buy-to-play games too.
Cheaters seem to have “where there’s a will, there’s a way, and I have a way” as their motto…
i not tell that there not are any cheaters on the console but to face a cheater on the console game’s only all super rare.
its super easy to face when on the PC platform then on the console.
with the buy to play game’s the developer can block the game from the cheater that he cant play on it any more.
and needs to buy the game again and thats why you not face then a lot since its only wasting money more for then.
and with the F2P there only have to make a new account and there can play again and it will cost then notting at all.
so there is a big diffrend more.
That seems to be the trend from 343 lots of words with little substance. All those words to basically say we aren’t letting PC players have a red reticle and we made our own anti-cheat program (that so far doesn’t seem to be working any better than the game they made).
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That’s all fine and fair, but our conversations started with me responding to a few that were stating (or at least implying) that all cheating problems will be resolved simply by including optional crossplay. I disagreed with that.
I never said removing mandatory crossplay won’t be better for console players in regards to cheating. I’m saying that cheating will always be a problem (yes, even on console). Additionally, the PC community is an important part of the halo community and we shouldn’t be opposed to devoting resources to better their experience.
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Ah. I see what you’re saying gotcha.
In fact, turning off crossplay just funnels them toward the population with crossplay on.
Cheaters won’t disappear but gives console players pesce of mind to some degree.
I don’t know about the Xbox One or Series X, but on the 360, at some point the cheating got quite bad I think.
Perhaps.
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I play on Xbox, so I’m not as invested in the anti-cheat stuff besides who I play against.
But I thought MCC had Easy Anti-Cheat? Why couldn’t Infinite?
Agree. So why doesn’t 343i do both? Disable mandatory cross-play for consoles and fix anti-cheat on PCs?
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Understand…
But, with all due respect are you deliberately ignore the difference between the risk reward benefits for cheating on PC vs console and free-to-play vs buy-n-play…
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I think the whole D-sync issue might be a clue. My speculation is that a lot more of Halo Infinite gameplay is done on the backend servers. So, anything like Easy Anti-Cheat may not just simply fit in. And give the current state of the “net-code” it may be far more difficult to fix the cheating problem.
this post of 343’s was just like their post explaining what lag is, and really didn’t tell us how or even if they are going to fix it
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If 343i does not permanently ban cheaters from it’s servers It ain’t gonna be worth a crap!
And that is a FACT! 
all the cheating problems will be resolved for the console players if there chance the crossplay system from force to option then you fix it for the console players the problem all.
for the PC players you not going to fix that problem
that is something we all know but most off us are console players and not wane play against the PC platform at all.
that there need a good anti cheat software is good for the PC platform to deal with the cheaters for some time since it only going to take a few day’s before there are back.
and here is some news all.
343i has lost the fight against the cheaters problem all since day one.
and thats more with all the developers that make more F2P game’s that there lose the fight against cheaters since the release.
there never going to win against the cheaters at all.
its more a lost fight no company can win against.
the only thing that there can do is stop with the F2P formule and go back to the Pay 2 Play formule.
for me more there are not important at all.
since there are a lot off problems there make for the console players more.
and then i mean more the M&K VS controler whine there do more.
the console players have a cheating problem thanks to then more.
i not care if the PC community can also play halo infinite at all.
but not give the console community there problems to deal with also.
since its a PC community problem and it needs to stay there more and not move also to the console community.
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Well I’m not going to force you to care about a significant portion of the population.
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I really think cheaters don’t care about risk, but I’ve already said cheating is more common in PC games.
However, while I was looking to see if consoles have a cheating problem or not, I ran into this:
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/cheating-in-ps5-and-xbox-series-x-games-might-get-worse-thanks-to-this-machine-learning-tool/1100-6493682/
https://twitter.com/AntiCheatPD/status/1412024189561851904?
As for buy-to-play versus free-to-play, I’m not sure about that, but I’ve seen a lot of articles about buy-to-play games that were teeming with cheaters.
Even Vanguard had an article about cheaters around the time it was supposed to get its anti-cheat system added.
I might be wrong, but I think if this was true, it would be a lot more difficult for people to be cheating.
for me is it more that there have make a big mistake to bring it out on the PC platform since it only has give us more problems then doing things good for the game more.
since we have now a cheating problem and the new anti cheat software is not going to help with it at all.
most off then like to see that crossplay most stay force and not most become a option at all.
since if you look on all the crossplay threads there is always 1 PC platform player complaing its wrong that crossplay most become a option and not going to help all when the Console players need that option hard to play without cheaters in there match’s.
about the M&K Vs controler there are complaing at all that the controlor players have aim assist when there need aim assist.
there are some that thinks we are the Greatest Threat from the game and its not only the PC players that use the controler but also the console players are the Greatest Threat for the game it seems.
then we have somebody that thinks that the crossplay system is broken when its not broken at all and becoming a option is more a lazy solution when its the best solution there is.
then i need to feel that there are important for the halo community when we get stuff like that all.
let me tell you this PC platforms community’s and the console community’s are always fighting each other and hate each other also in any game more.
i am also a EX Cod player and you know how hard the fights are there between console VS PC.
there are hard since the Playstation Community and the Xbox community share there 1 the same thing and that is more there are both against the PC community to play with then.
when it was normal back there that xbox community not like the playstation community at all.
but since crossplay has become slowly normal there share 1 big topic there not wane see at all.
Personally this is why I never agreed to halo being on PC.
In the past hackers where extremely rare on console.
Now halo is on PC and with crossplay the number of hackers (AKA players who can’t play the game so they need to hack) has gone up 10 times.
It sounds bad because there are PC player who just want to play the game but unfortunately some just can’t player fair.
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I thought it was a great post, just hope they do not go down the kernel route.
I remember the old days if the checksum and kernal did not match what was on the game servers the game would not connect to the game servers. Hell we even had some games use a dongle for their anti-cheat system. I still like the way Punkbuster worked. If a user was using a cheat Punkbuster would permanently “BAN” the user from that game server. I just hope whatever 343i anti-cheat they use that it will permanently “BAN” user’s from their servers.
We don;t need any “WOKE” punishments for cheaters like they did in Halo MCC. If a ADMIN ban’s a user in MCC it’s a 24 hour ban. REALLY? Do you really think that will help stop cheaters from cheating?
I DON’T THINK SO! 
People that host a game should not need to “BABYSIT” Their Server’s. On my other game server that I host I have a Welcome Screen say’s:
" Cheater’s, Racists Remarks and people that create Hate and Discontent Will be Baned PERIOD! "
“DON"T TEST IT!” >>>> We don’t unban anybody PERIOD! Don’t like the rules? "THEN DON’T PLAY HERE! 
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so if you cheat on MCC you cant play for 24 hours.
and if you use cheats on COD more then you are perma banned for good all is it your first bann.
so there are telling more in MCC from we support the cheating problem with a weak bann from 24 hours.
and not use the big hammer for it.
then i have a really bad feeling how there going to handel the cheating problem in halo infinite at all.
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