I don’t know about anyone else, but one thing Halo 4 did a good job of was spartan customisation; there was plenty of armour to earn, with a set way to get it, with sufficient breadth, and some armour was exclusive (and rightfully so). For example, if your saw a someone wearing FOTUS, you knew that they had bought that limited edition console, and if you saw someone wearing Protector DRIFT, you knew they had invested an awful lot of time into the game, and that he had rightfully earned it, and to an extent, you respected that player because of it.
On the contrary, in Halo 5, the REQ system was put into place and it then created a new way to earn amour, visors and whatever, and now, if you saw someone wearing a cool armour set like Venator, they didn’t go round assassinating Spartans left and right - they just got lucky with a stupid RNG system ( I played Destiny all the way through Year 1, so I know how ANNOYING RNG can be at times, and to an extent, this has created a “pay to win” system (which has no place in any game, because it disvalues effort and loyalty. The point I’m trying to make is that 343 Industries (and to clarify I’m not a 343 hater - I really enjoyed Halo 4) have severely impaired the armour system.
In my personal opinion, armour should be a mark of your skill as a player, and prior to the launch of Halo 5, I thought that Helioskrill was a mark of the loyal fans who had endured Halo 1-4 on legendary, EARNED it, and exercise they right to wear it, and frankly it possible for someone to spend a giant wad of money in REQ packs to get it (but they haven’t EARNED it).
And even though you’re earning REQ points to buy REQ’s packs to get amour; a) Its completely random if you get the armour that you want; b) You might not even get an armour piece, you’ll get something completing rubbish, (spending 10,000 REQ points to get two awful emblems? - Been there man).
To put it into perspective; you want Centurion? I know I do, but I can’t go out and EARN a commendation to get it, I have to take armour sets out of the RNG pool to vastly increase my chances of getting it, and there are roughly 170 helmets that have a more likely chance of dropping (as well as all the other Common - Legendary cosmetics), so in shorthand, I’m basically screwed if I don’t pony up a TONNE of money (but of course that’s what Microsoft want)
Personally, I believe the armour system should be done similar to Halo 4, and Halo: Reach; a specific way to EARN it, or to EARN enough credits to get it. But i doubt it’ll change in Halo 6, customisation is what people buy REQ packs for, and in the grand scheme of things, the studios (not just 343), care more about corporate that the players.
But I’m also interested in seeing what you others think - and hopefully this won’t turn into a massive argument about the REQ system 
Why do I have flashbacks pointing to Destiny with the whole Earned Vs Xurned?
I’d expect people getting nightmares, never mind flashbacks haha
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> I don’t know about anyone else, but one thing Halo 4 did a good job of was spartan customisation; there was plenty of armour to earn, with a set way to get it, with sufficient breadth, and some armour was exclusive (and rightfully so). For example, if your saw a someone wearing FOTUS, you knew that they had bought that limited edition console, and if you saw someone wearing Protector DRIFT, you knew they had invested an awful lot of time into the game, and that he had rightfully earned it, and to an extent, you respected that player because of it.
> On the contrary, in Halo 5, the REQ system was put into place and it then created a new way to earn amour, visors and whatever, and now, if you saw someone wearing a cool armour set like Venator, they didn’t go round assassinating Spartans left and right - they just got lucky with a stupid RNG system ( I played Destiny all the way through Year 1, so I know how ANNOYING RNG can be at times, and to an extent, this has created a “pay to win” system (which has no place in any game, because it disvalues effort and loyalty. The point I’m trying to make is that 343 Industries (and to clarify I’m not a 343 hater - I really enjoyed Halo 4) have severely impaired the armour system.
> In my personal opinion, armour should be a mark of your skill as a player, and prior to the launch of Halo 5, I thought that Helioskrill was a mark of the loyal fans who had endured Halo 1-4 on legendary, EARNED it, and exercise they right to wear it, and frankly it possible for someone to spend a giant wad of money in REQ packs to get it (but they haven’t EARNED it).
> And even though you’re earning REQ points to buy REQ’s packs to get amour; a) Its completely random if you get the armour that you want; b) You might not even get an armour piece, you’ll get something completing rubbish, (spending 10,000 REQ points to get two awful emblems? - Been there man).
> To put it into perspective; you want Centurion? I know I do, but I can’t go out and EARN a commendation to get it, I have to take armour sets out of the RNG pool to vastly increase my chances of getting it, and there are roughly 170 helmets that have a more likely chance of dropping (as well as all the other Common - Legendary cosmetics), so in shorthand, I’m basically screwed if I don’t pony up a TONNE of money (but of course that’s what Microsoft want)
> Personally, I believe the armour system should be done similar to Halo 4, and Halo: Reach; a specific way to EARN it, or to EARN enough credits to get it. But i doubt it’ll change in Halo 6, customisation is what people buy REQ packs for, and in the grand scheme of things, the studios (not just 343), care more about corporate that the players.
> But I’m also interested in seeing what you others think - and hopefully this won’t turn into a massive argument about the REQ system
Yh the new armour systems sucks so bad. When you want a certain helm you have to pray for rngesus. Or throw money at the screen like 343 wants us to do.
I don’t know what’s going on in 343’s head right now. “Let’s allow a lower amount of customization!” Why? How does that help anyone but you to get money. Specifically emblem coloring, that doesn’t even HELP YOU GET MONEY! Armor needs to be earned and the only reason you changed that is for the money. The reason there are so many underdeveloped crappy armors and useless weapon mods is to expand the pool so people get more frustrated so they go and buy them.
I feel like I’ve earned everything I’ve got because I don’t pay for the packs.
With thats said it would be nice to earn a pack that contained a specific armour through some ridiculous challenge but that can ultimately be just as grindy as the system in place now, but certainly would be a far more satisfying one when earned.
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> Why do I have flashbacks pointing to Destiny with the whole Earned Vs Xurned?
Came here to say this.
It doesn’t matter people.
Some of us have more time than money, others have more money than time. In my opinion, time is FAR more precious than money, which is why I’ll never criticize someone buying reqs. I myself have spent around $25. It was fun!
Don’t get me wrong, I’d prefer to unlock via achievements or commendations, but reqs are better than what games like Reach offer.
yea I earned protector drift in h4. (weapon mastery commendation). It was exhausting but it felt so rewarding when I got it. H5 is just random bs…
Well if your a fan of the game and buy the REQ packs to support 343i and the ESports championship coming up. I think you’d have enough rep to don whatever super-awesome-special armor tickles your fancy, as for earning the REQ points or commendations, I suppose that takes dedication and perseverance. Not to mention playing the RNG like a boss in the REQ Store as well. Regardless your earning the title of wearing such gear no matter which route you go.
Than again, Recon became so common now that it’s not worth looking back on that achievement run nightmare flashback anymore. laughs
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I don’t like it. I don’t plan on playing Halo 5 a lot, but there is armor that I want. But it will be next to impossible to get it. I’m sure I’ll probably never get Mk IV as I don’t even have 50 armor and helmets unlocked yet…
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> Well if your a fan of the game and buy the REQ packs to support 343i and the ESports championship coming up. I think you’d have enough rep to don whatever super-awesome-special armor tickles your fancy, as for earning the REQ points or commendations, I suppose that takes dedication and perseverance. Not to mention playing the RNG like a boss in the REQ Store as well. Regardless your earning the title of wearing such gear no matter which route you go.
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> Than again, Recon became so common now that it’s not worth looking back on that achievement run nightmare flashback anymore. laughs
I’m not really a fan of the game and I despise “esports” so I won’t buy any… and I don’t play non stop to buy endless packs. Looks like I’m pretty boned, eh?
I don’t buy packs but I don’t care that others do. If that is the way to get free MP DLC and keep the entire MP together I am all for it.
In hindsite I probably would have dedicated about 10-20 pieces of Armor and Helmets to particular achievements in game. Passing Campaign on Legendary, Reaching Onyx and/or Champion in Arena, 25,000 kills, etc. Heck I would actually make a really terrible armor on purpose for the 1st 1000 people to 25,000 deaths. I bet some would wear it too for humor sake. Armor is strictly cosmetic but its great to give people gaming goals and not make it a strict lotto system.
This is exactly the reason I gave up destiny. Luckily the armors in H5 don’t alter stats so it’s essentially irrelevant in the game other than cosmetic. So it’s not game breaking, although RNG does detract slightly from the fun of the req packs. I’d enjoy the game 10X more if I knew I was progressing towards something.
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> I don’t buy packs but I don’t care that others do. If that is the way to get free MP DLC and keep the entire MP together I am all for it.
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> In hindsite I probably would have dedicated about 10-20 pieces of Armor and Helmets to particular achievements in game. Passing Campaign on Legendary, Reaching Onyx and/or Champion in Arena, 25,000 kills, etc. Heck I would actually make a really terrible armor on purpose for the 1st 1000 people to 25,000 deaths. I bet some would wear it too for humor sake. Armor is strictly cosmetic but its great to give people gaming goals and not make it a strict lotto system.
I agree I don’t know why they couldn’t have done both. A campaign legendary pack that contains a specific armour set, 25000 kills pack that contains an armour set and stance etc etc.
do it 343 !
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> > Well if your a fan of the game and buy the REQ packs to support 343i and the ESports championship coming up. I think you’d have enough rep to don whatever super-awesome-special armor tickles your fancy, as for earning the REQ points or commendations, I suppose that takes dedication and perseverance. Not to mention playing the RNG like a boss in the REQ Store as well. Regardless your earning the title of wearing such gear no matter which route you go.
> > Than again, Recon became so common now that it’s not worth looking back on that achievement run nightmare flashback anymore. laughs
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> I’m not really a fan of the game and I despise “esports” so I won’t buy any… and I don’t play non stop to buy endless packs. Looks like I’m pretty boned, eh?
Eh, as long as you play for a time that your comfortable with, I think you have to right to say you earned whatever you unlock! There really isn’t a bar to be set, raised, or lowered depending on armor aesthetics.
All i wanted was Warrior. I didnt get a single variant until SR45 or so. Was pissed. Super happy now though. 
I agree. I have not even touched the campaign and have only really played warzone. But I understand the lack of accomplishment people feel for completing Legendary and not getting an asset.
If there is a way for them to retroactivly do it. I think they should give people that completed legendary a special req pack. You get one for buying megablox toy.
Good idea Miggy1483
Aren’t the emblems the new “earned armor” you’re referencing. The special emblems that come from the various commendation packs are exactly what you’re describing.
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> This is exactly the reason I gave up destiny. Luckily the armors in H5 don’t alter stats so it’s essentially irrelevant in the game other than cosmetic. So it’s not game breaking, although RNG does detract slightly from the fun of the req packs. I’d enjoy the game 10X more if I knew I was progressing towards something.
It’s rumored if you hit level 200 they send you some real mjolnir armor Irl.