Hate to admit, but this may be my favorite halo

To start with… I was a halo player since the very first day halo ever began. I am what many on the forums here would call a “purist” and I passionately hated the concept of sprint and things of that nature being introduced into halo. Halo 4? Absolute GARBAGE. That game felt like you were ice skating around in call of duty with super suits.

But with that said… Halo 5… I am LOVING IT SO -Yoinking!- MUCH. I can’t express how fun this game is to me. Despite the game having horrible things like sprint, clamber, thruster, ground and pound, etc, I have never had so much fun, on maps that I seriously hate mind you, (like seriously I really hate every single map that’s been released so far) and I don’t even understand why. But everything feels perfect to me. This is the first time I’ve felt like halo has been balanced across weapons. Watching people thruster and sprint away can be a bit frustrating, but I’ve come to terms with it. It’s also the first halo that truly and utterly relies on team work to a level halo has never reached before (which is a bit frustrating when playing solo because of how stupid people are lol but even then I’m still having a blast).

As much as I hate things like sprint and thruster, I’m also sort of starting to like thruster lol. I hate thruster, but I’m actually starting to like thruster lol. If that makes sense.

But anyways, now that the game is BR starts I am majorly starting to lose my enjoyment of the game. (Not going to get in the idiotic debate that’s posted on these forums every three minutes about how br starts is this or br starts is that)… Now that the ar/smg are actually real weapons, I want smg starts not the br. There damn well better be separate playlists for br and smg/ar starts.

With that said as well, I absolutely LOVE the breakout game type. That has opened up a whole new level of halo fun for me.

Also, I used to be so amazing at halo, now I kinda suck. Lol. I barely have like a 1.4kd now. Back in halo 2 I believe I had a 2.2kd (possibly 2.1). I also haven’t played console FPS games since literally halo 3. It also may have to do with the fact that two months ago I was given two months to live. (I hated reach, the spartan abilities horrifically ruined it for me… And let’s not even talk about halo 4. What a -Yoinking!- mess that was, so after h3 I kinda stopped console gaming, and now I’ve been ill).

but halo 5?!?!? Yes, I want it bad and I pray to God every day and night I will be alive to see launch. I can’t even explain what it is that I love so much about it, but I just LOOOOVVVEEE IT.

Now with all that said, I want to hear some opinions. I keep seeing threads (every 3 seconds) about how sprint needs to be removed and halo shouldn’t modernize and blah blah blah… And now I absolutely 100% agree halo should have never introduced sprint, but it’s here and never going anywhere. It is expected in any modern FPS and that’s something you all will need to accept (even though it is crap) that it will be in halo forever. So my question is, what do you think 343i SHOULD DO it appease everyone? Now mind you, sprint is in no matter what. So what do you think they can do that will help give halo 5 the longevity the first three games had?

I personally will play halo 5 for at least 2 years easy, I’m enjoying it that much. I could play this beta alone for 6 months. But I see a lot of posts of people being tired of halo already.

So at this point, so close to release, what do you think 343i can do better than what we have? And don’t say some stupid -Yoink- like “get rid of sprint and all mechanics that are related to it”… Because even tho I myself hate sprint, sprint is here to stay. Even tho halo is better without sprint, it’s here… So what’s else can be done?

also on a comety unrelated note, I just wanted to let everyone know about the condition I am in (some of you I’m sure are aware). In late October, I was given about two months to live because of cancer. My only hope was a miracle and nothing less. I am quite ecstatic to say that a miracle is now looking possible. I can only stay positive at this time and pray God is with me. Two months ago I was given two months and now the doctors can’t even give me a time frame or even explain truly what is happening because the cancer appears to be receding. Today is the best I have felt in months. Which is incredible because there was one night where the doctors had everyone say their goodbyes. The doctors themselves could hardly believe I was still around the next morning. And ever since then (I believe God truly had a helping hand with me that night) I have been getting better day by day.

Anyways… Thoughts?

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> To start with… I was a halo player since the very first day halo ever began. I am what many on the forums here would call a “purist” and I passionately hated the concept of sprint and things of that nature being introduced into halo. Halo 4? Absolute GARBAGE. That game felt like you were ice skating around in call of duty with super suits.
>
> But with that said… Halo 5… I am LOVING IT SO -Yoinking!- MUCH. I can’t express how fun this game is to me. Despite the game having horrible things like sprint, clamber, thruster, ground and pound, etc, I have never had so much fun, on maps that I seriously hate mind you, (like seriously I really hate every single map that’s been released so far) and I don’t even understand why. But everything feels perfect to me. This is the first time I’ve felt like halo has been balanced across weapons. Watching people thruster and sprint away can be a bit frustrating, but I’ve come to terms with it. It’s also the first halo that truly and utterly relies on team work to a level halo has never reached before (which is a bit frustrating when playing solo because of how stupid people are lol but even then I’m still having a blast).
>
> As much as I hate things like sprint and thruster, I’m also sort of starting to like thruster lol. I hate thruster, but I’m actually starting to like thruster lol. If that makes sense.
>
> But anyways, now that the game is BR starts I am majorly starting to lose my enjoyment of the game. (Not going to get in the idiotic debate that’s posted on these forums every three minutes about how br starts is this or br starts is that)… Now that the ar/smg are actually real weapons, I want smg starts not the br. There damn well better be separate playlists for br and smg/ar starts.
>
> With that said as well, I absolutely LOVE the breakout game type. That has opened up a whole new level of halo fun for me.
>
> Also, I used to be so amazing at halo, now I kinda suck. Lol. I barely have like a 1.4kd now. Back in halo 2 I believe I had a 2.2kd (possibly 2.1). I also haven’t played console FPS games since literally halo 3. It also may have to do with the fact that two months ago I was given two months to live. (I hated reach, the spartan abilities horrifically ruined it for me… And let’s not even talk about halo 4. What a -Yoinking!- mess that was, so after h3 I kinda stopped console gaming, and now I’ve been ill).
>
> but halo 5?!?!? Yes, I want it bad and I pray to God every day and night I will be alive to see launch. I can’t even explain what it is that I love so much about it, but I just LOOOOVVVEEE IT.
>
> Now with all that said, I want to hear some opinions. I keep seeing threads (every 3 seconds) about how sprint needs to be removed and halo shouldn’t modernize and blah blah blah… And now I absolutely 100% agree halo should have never introduced sprint, but it’s here and never going anywhere. It is expected in any modern FPS and that’s something you all will need to accept (even though it is crap) that it will be in halo forever. So my question is, what do you think 343i SHOULD DO it appease everyone? Now mind you, sprint is in no matter what. So what do you think they can do that will help give halo 5 the longevity the first three games had?
>
> I personally will play halo 5 for at least 2 years easy, I’m enjoying it that much. I could play this beta alone for 6 months. But I see a lot of posts of people being tired of halo already.
>
> So at this point, so close to release, what do you think 343i can do better than what we have? And don’t say some stupid -Yoink- like “get rid of sprint and all mechanics that are related to it”… Because even tho I myself hate sprint, sprint is here to stay. Even tho halo is better without sprint, it’s here… So what’s else can be done?
>
> also on a comety unrelated note, I just wanted to let everyone know about the condition I am in (some of you I’m sure are aware). In late October, I was given about two months to live because of cancer. My only hope was a miracle and nothing less. I am quite ecstatic to say that a miracle is now looking possible. I can only stay positive at this time and pray God is with me. Two months ago I was given two months and now the doctors can’t even give me a time frame or even explain truly what is happening because the cancer appears to be receding. Today is the best I have felt in months. Which is incredible because there was one night where the doctors had everyone say their goodbyes. The doctors themselves could hardly believe I was still around the next morning. And ever since then (I believe God truly had a helping hand with me that night) I have been getting better day by day.
>
> Anyways… Thoughts?

i don’t agree with your opinion and i don’t like halo 5, but you shouldn’t hate to admit it, it’s your opinion, be proud of it. in saying that don’t allow your enjoyment to allow for dismissive or ignorant behaviour like most posters do. more depth in user interface and player options could be a start.

anyway good luck with fighting cancer man, hope you keep on improving.

It might become my favorite depending on how good btb is. Halo is all about BTB, its best maps are BTB too (for me) so im very curious to see. Halo 4 nailed BTB so im confident 343 will deliver.

I was mostly joking when saying I “hate to admit it”. More so mean I am just throughly shocked I enjoy it so much. Because of how adamant I’ve been against sprint and such.

Also… This is just the beta, I imagine the UI and player options will be far different come launch than we see today.

What is it you don’t like about halo 5 in general? Is it the “it’s too call of duty”? Which honestly at this point I feel like 99% of ppl here have never even played call of duty lol. They are right in that call of duty is a -Yoinking!- HORRIBLE HORRIBLE HORRIBLE game, but this plays nothing like it. Similar mechanics in movement does not make them equal.

also I sincerely thank you for your support in my fight against the big C.

in response to Mihael… Interesting. So far playing halo 5, BTB is probably the last play list I have been thinking of. I have always been the 4v4 competitive type of player. But it definitely will be interesting to see what halo 5s BTB is like because of how different this halo is.

I’m really enjoying the new gameplay. The shooting and movement feels so much more fluid and organic than before. Back in halo 3 you felt like a floating camera with a gun attached.
This is the first Halo where I’m actually searching for ways to outmanoeuvre an opponent. I’m discovering new ways of using the abilities in combination all the time.

I was on this game nuts week one. It’s feels repetitive now. :frowning: The kills all feel routine. Thruster alone might kill this game for me. It impacts almost every encounter. Al arge portion of those are impacted by thruster in the exact same way. Thruster to safety. I feel like I’m running after people more now than in Halo 4.

I agree with you.

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> I was on this game nuts week one. It’s feels repetitive now. :frowning: The kills all feel routine. Thruster alone might kill this game for me. It impacts almost every encounter. Al arge portion of those are impacted by thruster in the exact same way. Thruster to safety. I feel like I’m running after people more now than in Halo 4.

I can definitely see what you mean, however I entirely attribute the repetition due to br starts. I was a huge br starts fan in h2-h3 (although I’ve always loved ar starts equally for sheer variety) however in halo 5, I am HATING br starts. The smg and ar (and don’t get me started on how amazing the pistol is which should be the secondary weapon) are now viable weapons. It isn’t like halo 2-3 where you have no chance to kill the opposing team if they won the initial power weapon race.

With br starts in halo 5, every single encounter goes like this “shoot bad guy until no shield, he thrusters behind wall.” And you have two options, 1) chase him and go die by his teammates around the corner and get killed by his grenade, or 2) sit back and camp and wait for him to come back out again.

obviously 2 is chosen every single time. Every single encounter feels the same every single time. with ar/pistol start, the game felt entirely different. It was fresh, new, fluid, responsive, and extremely strategic.

Im really tired of hearing people say “well if you don’t like br starts you suck and have no skill and need to be better… Br starts is better because in ar/pistol start you have no useful weapon and you die by opponents br because they won the first power weapon race.” To me, in halo 5 (and halo 5 only because I absolutely agree with them in h2-3) the ar, smg and ESPECIALLY the pistol are all plenty good enough to beat the br now. Even if the opposing team won the immediate power weapon race. ESPECIALLY with the pistol. You just have to learn how to use it. The pistol is amazing… In halo 5 now, if you aren’t able to kill a br with a pistol, then you sirs and ma’ams are the ones who need to get better now.

at any rate, just played a breakout, won first round and lost the next four straight. Came back and won 5-4. I thought it was awesome and wanted people to know lol.

I’m loving it too. It makes me excited to see the rest of the game. I’ve never been competitive before, but H5 has squeezed it out of me. I never cared whether my team won or lost before, but even with my crappy 1.01 KD, I suddenly care! And it’s fun at the same time! I used to mostly play BTB back in H4, so I can’t wait to see how much I enjoy that.

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> To start with… I was a halo player since the very first day halo ever began. I am what many on the forums here would call a “purist” and I passionately hated the concept of sprint and things of that nature being introduced into halo. Halo 4? Absolute GARBAGE. That game felt like you were ice skating around in call of duty with super suits.
>
> But with that said… Halo 5… I am LOVING IT SO -Yoinking!- MUCH. I can’t express how fun this game is to me. Despite the game having horrible things like sprint, clamber, thruster, ground and pound, etc, I have never had so much fun, on maps that I seriously hate mind you, (like seriously I really hate every single map that’s been released so far) and I don’t even understand why. But everything feels perfect to me. This is the first time I’ve felt like halo has been balanced across weapons. Watching people thruster and sprint away can be a bit frustrating, but I’ve come to terms with it. It’s also the first halo that truly and utterly relies on team work to a level halo has never reached before (which is a bit frustrating when playing solo because of how stupid people are lol but even then I’m still having a blast).
>
> As much as I hate things like sprint and thruster, I’m also sort of starting to like thruster lol. I hate thruster, but I’m actually starting to like thruster lol. If that makes sense.
>
> But anyways, now that the game is BR starts I am majorly starting to lose my enjoyment of the game. (Not going to get in the idiotic debate that’s posted on these forums every three minutes about how br starts is this or br starts is that)… Now that the ar/smg are actually real weapons, I want smg starts not the br. There damn well better be separate playlists for br and smg/ar starts.
>
> With that said as well, I absolutely LOVE the breakout game type. That has opened up a whole new level of halo fun for me.
>
> Also, I used to be so amazing at halo, now I kinda suck. Lol. I barely have like a 1.4kd now. Back in halo 2 I believe I had a 2.2kd (possibly 2.1). I also haven’t played console FPS games since literally halo 3. It also may have to do with the fact that two months ago I was given two months to live. (I hated reach, the spartan abilities horrifically ruined it for me… And let’s not even talk about halo 4. What a -Yoinking!- mess that was, so after h3 I kinda stopped console gaming, and now I’ve been ill).
>
> but halo 5?!?!? Yes, I want it bad and I pray to God every day and night I will be alive to see launch. I can’t even explain what it is that I love so much about it, but I just LOOOOVVVEEE IT.
>
> Now with all that said, I want to hear some opinions. I keep seeing threads (every 3 seconds) about how sprint needs to be removed and halo shouldn’t modernize and blah blah blah… And now I absolutely 100% agree halo should have never introduced sprint, but it’s here and never going anywhere. It is expected in any modern FPS and that’s something you all will need to accept (even though it is crap) that it will be in halo forever. So my question is, what do you think 343i SHOULD DO it appease everyone? Now mind you, sprint is in no matter what. So what do you think they can do that will help give halo 5 the longevity the first three games had?
>
> I personally will play halo 5 for at least 2 years easy, I’m enjoying it that much. I could play this beta alone for 6 months. But I see a lot of posts of people being tired of halo already.
>
> So at this point, so close to release, what do you think 343i can do better than what we have? And don’t say some stupid -Yoink- like “get rid of sprint and all mechanics that are related to it”… Because even tho I myself hate sprint, sprint is here to stay. Even tho halo is better without sprint, it’s here… So what’s else can be done?
>
> also on a comety unrelated note, I just wanted to let everyone know about the condition I am in (some of you I’m sure are aware). In late October, I was given about two months to live because of cancer. My only hope was a miracle and nothing less. I am quite ecstatic to say that a miracle is now looking possible. I can only stay positive at this time and pray God is with me. Two months ago I was given two months and now the doctors can’t even give me a time frame or even explain truly what is happening because the cancer appears to be receding. Today is the best I have felt in months. Which is incredible because there was one night where the doctors had everyone say their goodbyes. The doctors themselves could hardly believe I was still around the next morning. And ever since then (I believe God truly had a helping hand with me that night) I have been getting better day by day.
>
> Anyways… Thoughts?

Same here, been a Halo fan since CE and Halo 5 is my fav out of them all.

Also, luck to you, hope you recover, always remember Steve Jobs was said to die 6 months after they detected his cancer but he lived 30 years more (or something along those lines).

So just keep healthy, exercise, have your body strong and capable of fighting back.

There are things i like about halo 5.

then there are things i hate.

and then there are things that just make me go “WHY THE HELL IS THIS IN HALO…ANY HALO…WHY 343, WHY!!!”

unfortunately the the list of things i like is outnumbered by the list of things i hate, and that list is even furthermore outnumbered by the list of things that simply boggle the mind.