I have been playing Halo for a few years now and have realized that no other game gives you the feeling that Halo gives you, in my opinion. It is not just a game, it is stories of a futuristic universe that captivates you. I have seen so much hate on the two recent Halo games in the past few years and it makes me wonder if those people complaining actually see Halo for what it is. Do they realize that a game is not just multiplayer but also a story. People treated Halo: Reach and Halo 4 like they are terrible games just because they did not like their multiplayer. These people should also look at the story that Halo is when judging these games. I know there will always be hate on anything out there, but the non-constructive complaints about Halo’s present state are getting old. sometimes people just have to except games for what they are. I liked both Halo: Reach and Halo 4, and think that Halo’s story can still be expanded. After all, in my opinion, it is unlike most games because it has so much background history. Don’t get me wrong I am a fan of many other game series like Mass Effect and others, but Halo gives me a unique feeling. I think other people should think about what Halo really is and not just what it has become. It is a fantastic game series and story.
I definetly agree with you here. Halo has a great story, but most people seem to focus on the multiplayer aspect IMO.
Most hate for reach came because they destroyed Cannon the books had made. then with Halo 4 they what exactly… all I see in Halo 4 is a generic shooter that has lost its spark with the many features lost I mean “GOD the return of something as small as the Red X” why are we looking forward to something as small as this shouldn’t it already be in the game!
I judge games on past experience I have had with its previous titles and all I can say is that Halo 4 hasn’t improved on anything that was given to it in previous titles.
I see what you are saying about Reach, the story was confusing to me seeing that I read Halo: The Fall of Reach. The point of my post was to establish that like you said many Halos have left a lasting impression. Judging if Halo 4 does that is an opinion.
I couldn’t give two -Yoinks!- about the campaign. I get that people like it, good for you, but the multiplayer is how I’m going to judge the game. Maybe if 343 would cater the multiplayer to the kids who care more about the multiplayer than the story, both parties would get what they want.
> I couldn’t give two -Yoinks!- about the campaign. I get that people like it, good for you, but the multiplayer is how I’m going to judge the game. Maybe if 343 would cater the multiplayer to the kids who care more about the multiplayer than the story, both parties would get what they want.
The campaign is what makes the story of the game. i strongly disagree that the multiplayer makes up the entire game.
People complain about Halo’s multiplayer because it defined most, if not all modern shooters we see today. From only carrying 2 weapons, to redesigning the console FPS: without Halo, games like Call of Duty wouldn’t exist. We have had great campingns and Myths from earlier games, such as half life, Starcraft, The Eldar Scrolls and Warhammer 40,000. Don’t get me wrong, Halo’s story is still Avant garde IMO, but it’s revolutionising multiplayer is what made Halo stand out, and why so many people brought it. So if a ground breaking multiplayer is destroyed, it’s like having half a chocolate egg. Sure, it tastes nice (Referring to the campaign/story) but you know there was more, and in Halo 4’s case, where multiplayer has so much potential, it’s like being given a whole chocolate egg, then someone eating that very egg right infront of you. I hope this clears things up.
~Nexus
> > I couldn’t give two -Yoinks!- about the campaign. I get that people like it, good for you, but the multiplayer is how I’m going to judge the game. Maybe if 343 would cater the multiplayer to the kids who care more about the multiplayer than the story, both parties would get what they want.
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> The campaign is what makes the story of the game. i strongly disagree that the multiplayer makes up the entire game.
That’s like, your opinion bro.
I love every halo. their story, multiplayer, and music. except halo 4. I feel it has no place in the halo saga and should be ignored.
I see your point. Halo’s multiplayer has made several ground breaking improvements to FPS, but the game itself has as well. Halo basically defined what an FPS is today.
That is another problem too, people think the latest Halo games should be ignored. How can they be ignored if they are part of the story?
> I couldn’t give two -Yoinks!- about the campaign. I get that people like it, good for you, but the multiplayer is how I’m going to judge the game. Maybe if 343 would cater the multiplayer to the kids who care more about the multiplayer than the story, both parties would get what they want.
They DID cater to the multiplayer! They just didn’t do a very good job.
The Customs community and the Forge community all got ignored, and what they enjoyed most about Halo has been ruined because 343 focused solely on campaign and multiplayer.
> > I couldn’t give two -Yoinks!- about the campaign. I get that people like it, good for you, but the multiplayer is how I’m going to judge the game. Maybe if 343 would cater the multiplayer to the kids who care more about the multiplayer than the story, both parties would get what they want.
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> They DID cater to the multiplayer! They just didn’t do a very good job.
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> The Customs community and the Forge community all got ignored, and what they enjoyed most about Halo has been ruined because 343 focused solely on campaign and multiplayer.
Well, not really. In the lead-up to Halo 4, Frankie and 343 stated that one of their primary goals was to make the transition from campaign to multiplayer easier, because a majority of players didn’t play the multiplayer (I doubt that “fact” is accurate, seeing as they made the assumption that people without live didn’t play the multiplayer). Their whole mission in Halo 4 was to make the multiplayer more appealing to newcomers and campaign kids; not to please the people who enjoyed the way Halo used to play.
I used to like halo because it always expanded logically for every game. Then reach came out and basically blew halo way back in time story wise, while adding elements that were new to the series. In other words, reach tried to be a prequel to halo ce while also trying to be a sequel to halo 3. It did poorly in both areas. I do commend it for making some great features for forge and custom games (invasion/race), but unfortunately that doesnt really make up for its poorly done mm, depressing campaign, and super easy firefight mode. (FRG firefight? Really? ODST was way more challenging.)
Then 343i decides to build off of this mixed up halo game and instead of making a logical sequel to halo 3, they made a new hybrid of reach mixed with several aspects of generic modern fps games and call it halo 4. It also took good features from the previous games out. (Either that, or 343i failed to implement them. Pick your poison.)
I have yet to see halo 3 recieve a proper sequel that matches if not dwarfs its greatness as a halo game.
> > > I couldn’t give two -Yoinks!- about the campaign. I get that people like it, good for you, but the multiplayer is how I’m going to judge the game. Maybe if 343 would cater the multiplayer to the kids who care more about the multiplayer than the story, both parties would get what they want.
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> > They DID cater to the multiplayer! They just didn’t do a very good job.
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> > The Customs community and the Forge community all got ignored, and what they enjoyed most about Halo has been ruined because 343 focused solely on campaign and multiplayer.
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> Well, not really. In the lead-up to Halo 4, Frankie and 343 stated that one of their primary goals was to make the transition from campaign to multiplayer easier, because a majority of players didn’t play the multiplayer (I doubt that “fact” is accurate, seeing as they made the assumption that people without live didn’t play the multiplayer). Their whole mission in Halo 4 was to make the multiplayer more appealing to newcomers and campaign kids; not to please the people who enjoyed the way Halo used to play.
That is not exactly true, they never said that they weren’t catering to the people who enjoyed past Halo multiplayer experiences. I see why they wanted to make the transition easier
> > > > I couldn’t give two -Yoinks!- about the campaign. I get that people like it, good for you, but the multiplayer is how I’m going to judge the game. Maybe if 343 would cater the multiplayer to the kids who care more about the multiplayer than the story, both parties would get what they want.
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> > > They DID cater to the multiplayer! They just didn’t do a very good job.
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> > > The Customs community and the Forge community all got ignored, and what they enjoyed most about Halo has been ruined because 343 focused solely on campaign and multiplayer.
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> > Well, not really. In the lead-up to Halo 4, Frankie and 343 stated that one of their primary goals was to make the transition from campaign to multiplayer easier, because a majority of players didn’t play the multiplayer (I doubt that “fact” is accurate, seeing as they made the assumption that people without live didn’t play the multiplayer). Their whole mission in Halo 4 was to make the multiplayer more appealing to newcomers and campaign kids; not to please the people who enjoyed the way Halo used to play.
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> That is not exactly true, they never said that they weren’t catering to the people who enjoyed past Halo multiplayer experiences. I see why they wanted to make the transition easier
Yes, they never said they wouldn’t cater to the old style of Halo, but purely based on how the game turned out, they really didn’t cater to fans of the original trilogy’s multiplayer.
I’m reading Dr. Halsey’s Journal again right now.
I love it.
I loved that journal too, it expanded on the universe really well.
No, it’s not just about story.
There’s 3 important things about Halo:
-SP (story)
-SP (gameplay)
-MP
To shun gameplay for the sake of story, that’s about what Halo 4 did. It was very disappointing.
Yeah the BRs on Midnight is a congenial sight to Chief, but it’s practically worthless for anything at that point.
I am with you , I love the Halo Series and the main thing that hooked me on H2 was the mp. But we all have to remember this was before GOW , Cod and the others. The only competition was BF2.
Despite how great H2 and H3 were , they both had major flaws when it comes to MP. I mean geez, how quickly people forgot about standby , the Noob combo, the melee systems, the weapon spawns, , OP nades, the underpowered nades, the player spawns the dominant vehicles , the swipe snipes and so on.
The only real thing I see missing in H4 is no real ranking system. I like what 343 did with the load outs and specs. But I am just not sure about the decision of capping us at 130. Atleast show me the xp I am earning. It doesn’t even have be “prestige” or reset style system. Just something. I know about 80% of my friends stopped playing because of no real ranking system. I still play almost everyday, and will keep doin so until halo 5. Gta5 and destiny will stop me, but the whole world will stop for those.
So I say, for those of us left, lets just play, kill each other and be brotherly about it. Humane combat ? The community needs to stay strong