Halo Wars vs. Starcaft!

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This is an On-going Huge Debate in the Starcraft Forums and I’m suprised I’ve never seen it here (or at least recently).

The Debate!:

Head-to-Head.

UNSC vs Terran: IMO These are the two most equal powers of the 6 races. The stim-pack marines and odst’s to me seem to be eqaul. The UNSC has access to their Secret weapon the SpartanS! However the Terran seem to have a more diverse arsenal when it comes to Air Superiority witht the battle cruisers, valkyries, and hawks. IMO the UNSC Vulture+Hawk+Falcon combo would put up a hell of a fight. The Yamatto Cannons on the Battle cruisers plus the Shielding power of the sciece vessels is something that might give the Terran a decisive advantage. The Terran Siege Tank IMO is far superior to the UNSC Scorpion. The double-barreled siege tank to me, has the fire power of a Grizzly+Cobra in One. Making them much more versatile, also the lockdown sequence of the siege tanks feels to be about Half the time it takes for cobras to lock down. The only advantage i see for the UNSC Tanks are there Power Turrents which boast a more than adequate firepower from the machine guns which can be used against infantry and even Air units. Lastly, The Terran have Nukes at their disposal but the UNSC have MAC Rounds which I personally feel are about equal threats in battle. IMO UNSC vs Terran is Too Close to call! I wish they would put this Battle on that TV Show.
I would like to think they would just team up against the Protoss,Covie,Zerg,Flood situation. lol

Covenant vs Protoss: My knowlegde of Covies & Protoss if very limited but even so, just from playing the Starcraft brood war, I feel like the Protoss will come out on top of the Covenant in all aspects. Infantry, Ground Vehicles, Air, and Space IMO the Protoss have a clear lead on all these fronts over the Covenant. The only factor that is hard for me to figure in is the Covenant Leaders. The combo of Arby+Chieftan+Prophetx3 (assuming that Truth, Regret, and the 3rd guy all have the Same Powers) would be a pretty unstoppable force. This is tough to evaluate. IMO Protoss Pwns!

Flood vs Zerg: I’ve read pages and pages of discussions on starcraft forums on this particular issue. Flood vs Zerg. Starcraft fanboys will never let it go, and refuese to believe that the Flood is an Unstoppable Infection that devours All! I quote, Not Even 1 Flood Spore can be allowed to Survive. They like to argue that the flood is a mindless zombie race with no intellect. I disagree, the flood taps into its Host and STEALS there Mind! They become able to Use WEapons and Vehicles and Fly Fricking Starships for christ sake. The Zerg is a formidabble Threat, dont get me wrong, but IMO there is NOTHING that can STop the flood Except the Forruners! and the Origanl 12 Halo Rings that were made to Basically Suicide Bomb All Existance In the Galaxy. To Me, if thats what it takes to stop the Flood, then they are the Most powerful and Unstoppable Force. I clearly think the Flood beats Zerg any day.

3 vs 3
Haloverse vs Starcaft Universe

UNSC+Covenant+Flood vs Terran+Protoss+Zerg:

This debate i leave totally open for discussion.

My Vote is for Haloverse!!!

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Are you talking about the cannon of the settings or the realities of how each race functions in the game?

If its cannon then the level of threat goes Flood > Covenant > Zerg ≥ Protoss > Terran ≥ UNSC

Flood destroy civilizations, covenant have been fighting them for Milena and kick the living daylights out of UNSC (especially at the time of Harvest), Zerg are animals who just want to consume and are a major threat in a small sector of the galaxy, the Protoss are powerful but dieing, the Terran Dominion is at a level where the most basic infantry gets a power suit. UNSC don’t do too well.

  • A SC2 and Halo fanboy
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> Are you talking about the cannon of the settings or the realities of how each race functions in the game?
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> If its cannon then the level of threat goes Flood > Covenant > Zerg ≥ Protoss > Terran ≥ UNSC
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> Flood destroy civilizations, covenant have been fighting them for Milena and kick the living daylights out of UNSC (especially at the time of Harvest), Zerg are animals who just want to consume and are a major threat in a small sector of the galaxy, the Protoss are powerful but dieing, the Terran Dominion is at a level where the most basic infantry gets a power suit. UNSC don’t do too well.
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> - A SC2 and Halo fanboy

Wrong, UNSC has Master Chief, which immediately raises them to the top. Master Chief>>>>>>>>>> x a million better than jim raynor or however you spell it. Either way, Halo Wars cannon is superior. You could also add that the covenant has the rings which if activated would destroy the entire galaxy clean. Although that was potentially the forrunners doing but the covenant have the most control of it nonetheless. Which Master Chief is the only one capable of stopping them. So overall it would be UNSC>Covenant>Flood all three better than the starcraft cannon. If you wanted to you could even add the Forrunners and they would still be better than the starcraft cannon. The forrunners would be greater than or equal to the covenant. But again UNSC has Master Chief, which ultimately lets them claim the lead.

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> If its cannon then the level of threat goes Flood > Covenant > Zerg ≥ Protoss > Terran ≥ UNSC

Whats your reasoning for putting UNSC Last?!

IMO The UNSC can hold-their-own against the Terran and Zerg. John-117 is the Achilles of the UNSC who has proven to be unstoppable and will Never Give Up. Additionally, they have the several variants of the Spartan Programs, ODST’s, legendary Fleet Commanders (i.e.= Captain Keyes), and Orbital Defense MAC cannons. With all of these resources, I say the UNSC won’t come out last in the rankings.

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if it were ground combat the UNSC would be horribly out matched.
Your talking hundreds of space marines with heavy mechanic armor vs Weak normal marines.
The battle is so lop sided

Now Space combat, UNSC. It has the bigger guns, far more ships, Not to mention better commanders.

the Protos vs Covenant are a little more even, but thats only in power. In numbers the covies are vastly larger to the point that any advantage the protos have is eliminated, ground and space.

Flood and zerg, no fight, you wouldn’t even have the chance to get popcorn, flood.

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> > If its cannon then the level of threat goes Flood > Covenant > Zerg ≥ Protoss > Terran ≥ UNSC
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> Whats your reasoning for putting UNSC Last?!
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> IMO The UNSC can hold-their-own against the Terran and Zerg. John-117 is the Achilles of the UNSC who has proven to be unstoppable and will Never Give Up. Additionally, they have the several variants of the Spartan Programs, ODST’s, legendary Fleet Commanders (i.e.= Captain Keyes), and Orbital Defense MAC cannons. With all of these resources, I say the UNSC won’t come out last in the rankings.

Master Chief is a beast, don’t get me wrong, but I’ve followed both games from inception and in my mind, there is no question UNSC are at the bottom of the pile. Kerrigan would literally eat the Chief for breakfast, the Zerg are genetically created world destroyers, controlled by one kick a s s b i t c h. The UNSC have struggled for decades to fend off the Covenant, their Spartan program was a failure, they’ve got ONE left!.. Terrans on the other hand, have spread themselves across the galaxy, and the faction we get to see in the games is a tiny fraction of their might. They have psychic Ghosts, Spectra, Transforming mechs, battle-cruisers and as already mentioned, their lowest level troops are mech enhanced drug fueled maniacs…

If the canon is to be believed however, the Flood will consume all…

Flood > Zerg > Protoss > Terran > Covenant > UNSC

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> if it were ground combat the UNSC would be horribly out matched.
> Your talking hundreds of space marines with heavy mechanic armor vs Weak normal marines.
> The battle is so lop sided
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> Now Space combat, UNSC. It has the bigger guns, far more ships, Not to mention better commanders.
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> the Protos vs Covenant are a little more even, but thats only in power. In numbers the covies are vastly larger to the point that any advantage the protos have is eliminated, ground and space.
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> Flood and zerg, no fight, you wouldn’t even have the chance to get popcorn, flood.

False, Master Chief is on the ground

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> > > If its cannon then the level of threat goes Flood > Covenant > Zerg ≥ Protoss > Terran ≥ UNSC
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> > Whats your reasoning for putting UNSC Last?!
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> > IMO The UNSC can hold-their-own against the Terran and Zerg. John-117 is the Achilles of the UNSC who has proven to be unstoppable and will Never Give Up. Additionally, they have the several variants of the Spartan Programs, ODST’s, legendary Fleet Commanders (i.e.= Captain Keyes), and Orbital Defense MAC cannons. With all of these resources, I say the UNSC won’t come out last in the rankings.
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> Master Chief is a beast, don’t get me wrong, but I’ve followed both games from inception and in my mind, there is no question UNSC are at the bottom of the pile. Kerrigan would literally eat the Chief for breakfast, the Zerg are genetically created world destroyers, controlled by one kick a s s b i t c h. The UNSC have struggled for decades to fend off the Covenant, their Spartan program was a failure, they’ve got ONE left!.. Terrans on the other hand, have spread themselves across the galaxy, and the faction we get to see in the games is a tiny fraction of their might. They have psychic Ghosts, Spectra, Transforming mechs, battle-cruisers and as already mentioned, their lowest level troops are mech enhanced drug fueled maniacs…
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> If the canon is to be believed however, the Flood will consume all…
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> Flood > Zerg > Protoss > Terran > Covenant > UNSC

If you knew as much as you say you do about sc2 then you would know that the zerg is not run by kerrigan. And you say that kerrigan would beat chief? uh, no. She was taken down by raynors raiders… UNSC would definately kill her. And time frame wise she was only a zerg for a little while so chances are if they would ever fight she wouldn’t even be there.

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> > if it were ground combat the UNSC would be horribly out matched.
> > Your talking hundreds of space marines with heavy mechanic armor vs Weak normal marines.
> > The battle is so lop sided
> >
> > Now Space combat, UNSC. It has the bigger guns, far more ships, Not to mention better commanders.
> >
> > the Protos vs Covenant are a little more even, but thats only in power. In numbers the covies are vastly larger to the point that any advantage the protos have is eliminated, ground and space.
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> > Flood and zerg, no fight, you wouldn’t even have the chance to get popcorn, flood.
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> False, Master Chief is on the ground

Last I checked he was going toward a unknown planet.
so no… hes not

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> > > if it were ground combat the UNSC would be horribly out matched.
> > > Your talking hundreds of space marines with heavy mechanic armor vs Weak normal marines.
> > > The battle is so lop sided
> > >
> > > Now Space combat, UNSC. It has the bigger guns, far more ships, Not to mention better commanders.
> > >
> > > the Protos vs Covenant are a little more even, but thats only in power. In numbers the covies are vastly larger to the point that any advantage the protos have is eliminated, ground and space.
> > >
> > > Flood and zerg, no fight, you wouldn’t even have the chance to get popcorn, flood.
> >
> > False, Master Chief is on the ground
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> Last I checked he was going toward a unknown planet.
> so no… hes not

As I said in my previous post you don’t know the timeframe they meet… making where Master Chief is in HALO 4 irrelevant. So yes… he is.

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I think if the Forerunner race was more understood, then they would probably win especially if there is still a Forerunner population around and the flood was finally wiped out. The Precursors would also be formidable, but I honestly couldn’t even say anything about them. If it was pre-flood Forerunners then I am sure the Forerunners would win.

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Although i have only played Halo Wars once, i have to take Starcraft. Playing Halo Wars on the xbox was a disaster. It was one of those times, i needed a keyboard and mouse. Thats why i dropped Halo Wars.

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DeadWombat: Edited by DeadWombat on 11/11/10 5:03 PM (PST)

Um, lets see…

To be perfectly fair, the halo universe has not waged war on the massive scale that starcraft has. The races of starcraft would curbstomp halo with sheer numbers.

Protoss > Covenant: Their technology is far superior… especially the shields. Also, Psy Storm/Collosus would ##@! everything.

Terran > UNSC: Same as above: Better technology. One cloaked ghost would ROFLpwn Master Chief with EMP and Snipe.
terran beat UNSC because they already beat the UED (with some pz help). plus, siege tanks can destroy all of the unsc’s ground forces and the UNSC air is laughable, probably could be destroyed by 2 battlecruisers

Zerg > Flood: The Flood can’t assimilate non-sentient creatures, right? And the Zerg aren’t sentient except for Overlords and Kerrigan. Plus, the Flood is super squishy. Zerg are heavily armored.

Its not even fair.

dark templar could destroy the entire halo universe as nothing in halo has detection.

Terrans seem to have air superiority over the UNSC so them along with the Zerg with the Protoss would crush the Covenant and UNSC.

Ghosts could probably take Spartans also.