Over the last 2 years 343 turned me from a die hard 343 fanboy to a guy who has lost almost all of his faith in 343i. Reasons for this include :
Releasing MCC broken. When I saw the reveal for this game at e3 2014 I was really impressed. 4 games on the one disk, halo CEs and 2s original multiplayer, dedicated servers. I mean the hype for this game was HUGE. Then when MCC launched, and as we all know… it was a broken mess. It took months for us to even find a game. And after months of trying to fix the game 343 slide it under the rug as if it never happened. - Lying to us. 343 have been very sneaky with details in halo 5 whether it be the amount of maps in the game, the campaign length. But the the thing that pissed me and a lot of other people off is that they lied about the story. They depicted master chief going rogue, an epic confrontation between Chief and Locke and master chief dying???. What we did get was :
Master chief running off to find his GF. - A 60 second fight between chief and Locke which looks like two drunk men having a scrap. - Oh wait that never even happened IN THE GAME. Not even in the Intel.3. Refusing to fix the MANY bugs and glitches and problems in halo 5. I know that there are always some bugs in a game but these bugs have been there since launch. The retrieving data bug, the lost connection bug, the retrieving data bug, the objects disappearing and reapearing glitch. Oh did I forget to mention the retrieving data bug? they haven’t fixed the radar or Spartan charge. They also don’t playtest updates which launch buggy. They also took months to add in Infection. A gamemode expected in a halo game. They add in sprint and ads while refusing to add in Splitscreen and Playable elites which completely the opposite of what the community want.
Then enter Halo Wars 2. A game I didn’t even intend on buying until I saw the trailers and gameplay. The game looks like a halo game. Dark and a more gritty tone. Return of the classic art style. Brutes. The Ark. More Spartan IIs. This game already looks much better than halo 4 and 5s story combined. Please 343 if Halo Wars 2 is a success then please do what your doing in halo wars 2 and put it into halo 6.
MCC was renewing my faith in them too, and we know how that turned out.
Also Halo Wars 2 isn’t actually their work. Halo Wars 2 could have been made even if 343i never existed.
343i are still very able to lie and not fix their games even if Halo Wars 2 turns out to be great.
I’m judging Halo Wars 2 on its own merits. As far as I’m concerned Halo 4 and 5 still never happened and Halo Wars 2 is potentially just a happy sequel to a good spin off, of a once great franchise.
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> MCC was renewing my faith in them too, and we know how that turned out.
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> Also Halo Wars 2 isn’t actually their work. Halo Wars 2 could have been made even if 343i never existed.
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> 343i are still very able to lie and not fix their games even if Halo Wars 2 turns out to be great.
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> I’m judging Halo Wars 2 on its own merits. As far as I’m concerned Halo 4 and 5 still never happened and Halo Wars 2 is potentially just a happy sequel to a good spin off, of a once great franchise.
I would say to throw Halo 5’s story out but then I read Halo Mythos. Because of strong hints that we will return to the Ark in not only Halo Wars 2 but Halo 6 and that Cortana is not what we assume her to be it has me genuinely excited for Halo 6. I don’t deny Halo 5’s story sucked but I can see a lot of potential in Halo 6.
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> But the the thing that pissed me and a lot of other people off is that they lied about the story. They depicted master chief going rogue, an epic confrontation between Chief and Locke and master chief dying?!?!?!?.
Agree with everything apart from the fact that nobody said or wanted Chief dead.
(considering how much they did wrong with the story in Halo 5 it would piss me so off if they kill Chief in Halo 6 that I would leave the franchise for good as if Halo 6 would be even worse than Halo 5 - this also if Halo 6 will (hopefully) be the best Halo game ever - CHIEF CAN’T DIE AFTER HOW HIS CHARACTER HAS BEEN RUINED UNLESS THEY FIX IT)
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> > But the the thing that pissed me and a lot of other people off is that they lied about the story. They depicted master chief going rogue, an epic confrontation between Chief and Locke and master chief dying?!?!?!?.
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> Agree with everything apart from the fact that nobody said or wanted Chief dead.
> (considering how much they did wrong with the story in Halo 5 it would piss me so off if they kill Chief in Halo 6 that I would leave the franchise for good as if Halo 6 would be even worse than Halo 5 - this also if Halo 6 will (hopefully) be the best Halo game ever - CHIEF CAN’T DIE AFTER HOW HIS CHARACTER HAS BEEN RUINED UNLESS THEY FIX IT)
No it was everyone else being told by ONI that chief died on Meridain so that nobody knows that chief went AWOL and is being pursued by Osiris.
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> > > But the the thing that pissed me and a lot of other people off is that they lied about the story. They depicted master chief going rogue, an epic confrontation between Chief and Locke and master chief dying?!?!?!?.
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> > Agree with everything apart from the fact that nobody said or wanted Chief dead.
> > (considering how much they did wrong with the story in Halo 5 it would piss me so off if they kill Chief in Halo 6 that I would leave the franchise for good as if Halo 6 would be even worse than Halo 5 - this also if Halo 6 will (hopefully) be the best Halo game ever - CHIEF CAN’T DIE AFTER HOW HIS CHARACTER HAS BEEN RUINED UNLESS THEY FIX IT)
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> No it was everyone else being told by ONI that chief died on Meridain so that nobody knows that chief went AWOL and is being pursued by Osiris.
oh right, they made Halo 5 so wrong I forgot that part of the advertise… sorry (Still I hope he doesn’t die for real in Halo 6 XD)
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> Halo Wars 2 isn’t even being developed by 343i
343 are playing some role in the story, art design and characters etc. Look at the Halo Wars 2 vidoc and people like Dan Ayoub (who works at 343) are in the video. Dan Ayoub said himself that creative assembly are only there to make the game but have little involvement in the story.
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> 343 are playing some role in the story, art design and characters etc. Look at the Halo Wars 2 vidoc and people like Dan Ayoub (who works at 343) are in the video. Dan Ayoub said himself that creative assembly are only there to make the game but have little involvement in the story.
Yes Creative Assembly is developing the game I give 0 -Yoink- about story in a game.
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> With Creative Assembly’s work on AI in Alien Isolation, we might have some good AI drivers for once.
But that is a completely different type of game. If you want a better comparison, look at Total War: Warhammer. Admittedly I don’t know much about it other than they locked one of the playable factions in an RTS behind a preorder/paywall which leaves a disgusting taste in my mouth. That would be like saying “The Flood is playable in this game if you give us money”.
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> 343 are playing some role in the story, art design and characters etc. Look at the Halo Wars 2 vidoc and people like Dan Ayoub (who works at 343) are in the video. Dan Ayoub said himself that creative assembly are only there to make the game but have little involvement in the story.
Well that’s nice, a developer that doesn’t care about Halo (Wars) is making it… and is being led by 343 Incompetencies. Talk about the blind leading the blind.
At OP:
If you expect this game to renew your faith in Halo, I got some bad news for you in addition to what I already said. Eight months before release they confirm:
Day 1 campaign DLC
Six (or more) months of updates with units and leaders for season pass holders (giving them an advantage)
The only way to obtain HW Definitive Edition is by purchasing HW2 Ultimate Edition (exactly like CoD4 Remastered and Infinite Warfail)
I said the same thing about Halo MCC, i got dissapointed, i said the same thing about Halo 5 and i was let down massively. Also Creative assembly is in control of this project. Even if 343 has some control of it, i don’t see why that should renew you’re faith after 3 failed games.
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> 343 are playing some role in the story, art design and characters etc. Look at the Halo Wars 2 vidoc and people like Dan Ayoub (who works at 343) are in the video. Dan Ayoub said himself that creative assembly are only there to make the game but have little involvement in the story.
Story, art, and characters never determine the entire value and quality of game. Creative Assembly should be commended if Halo Wars 2 turns out well, not 343 Industries.
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> 343 lied about halo 5s campaign about as much as Bungle lied about Halo 2 being only about Chief and it taking place on earth…
It’s funny because I never truly believed they would make MC the villain and I certainly didn’t believe they would kill him off in 5. I had actually assumed there would be some friction between him and Locke/rest of UNSC for a bit, but eventually they would band together to fight a larger threat…which is exactly what happened.
So many people attacked me for stating this before hand, it was kind of funny that it had panned out.
I didn’t think H5’s campaign was all bad tbh.
I will say MCC was awesome when it was announced, but it seemed very VERY rushed.
I am still looking forward to HW2. I really hope it doesn’t get messed up.
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> And with the newly announced blitz mode and microtransactions I’m now going to cancel my preorder.
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> I understood micros in Gears. It’s a big shooter, but I thought, as a smaller title, Halo Wars 2 would be safe.
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> I’d rather put the money towards Switch.
Reading up on Blitz, it doesn’t feel all that bad, I can play firefight on it and completely ignore the PvP aspect.
Also, I’m too certain there’s be microtransactions involved, seeing as we’ve gotten the more expensive edition featuring campaign DLC from the get go, it’s a hunch.
However, I can’t find any confirmation of MT’s in Halo Wars 2 yet, unless someone on Twitter asked Dan, I’m not a twitter guy.
Either way, I’m personally not jumping to conclusions yet, however I am worried about the game mode and what it means for the rest of the game.
I mean, they’re essentially trying to appeal to an audience which isn’t that interested in RTS games by having a mode with completely different gameplay, and possibly MTs in order to milk them for money, rather than try to make the standard gameplay more appealing, or try to make it more appealing for more RTS fans.