While art is subjective there are a few things to consider when looking at how liked something is by the public. Infinite holds a user score of 8.0/10 via metacritic while the Halo Show has a user score of 57%. Halo 5, a game that took risks also pleased nobody, sits at a userscore of 6.4.
You can play it safe or take risks. It does not matter. When it comes to a piece of media being loved or hated, it all depends on the execution. Objectively speaking Infinite has done a better job at pleasing its audience than the Halo Streaming show has. Subjectively speaking, each person has their own valid views on either story. Art is subjective at the end.
dont bother he is a h5 stan sad that they ditched locke. and everything h5 did(which was literally nothing). I would actually argue that he cant even show 1000 people who say h5 has a good story compared to any of the halo stories
People are free to like what they like. I just wish OP was more specific about what he liked in the show instead of vague and broad terms like “it took risks” or “1000x better.” He does not have to, but it would make sense as to why he thinks the show is better from a story point of view.
So far he has praised the Show for taking the risk of ignoring the plots of the books and games and doing it’s own thing.
He has also said that infinite campaign was bad because it played it safe and (mostly) ignored the plot of Halo 4 and 5.
the show has the most boring and predictable writing i have ever witnessed. I got P+ just to see how bad it could get and so far, it hasn’t disappointed me yet. the first Highlander movie is better than this Yoink show.
i mean seriously a plasma sword in a fingernail WTF
I’ve given a few examples of why I think the series is better than Infinite but if you’d like it more in a grocery list style
1.) the series is showing their action, even if it isn’t much, on screen, Infinite the biggest events such as Infinity going down/ literally the shape of the rest of the universe isn’t mentioned shown and barely acknowledged (audio logs are somewhat informative but crap vs seeing the real scene
2.) Halo infinite was promised to be the next amazing installation in the campaign. I can’t get over the industry lying to us at the beginning promising this game will showcase the Xboxes potential. The series on the other hand told us what to expect in the show with the silver timeline so I knew to expect a different story and doesn’t seem to have a problem telling the story it wants to tell despite the 343 fanboys wanting a rehash of all the old games because they are too lazy to just play them again.
3. If you read the books with Master Chief, he does have some personality, free thoughts, and gasp takes his helmet off. In my opinion the series is more accurately showing Chief is an actual person underneath all his augmentation than the video games, one scene touched on this in Infinite when Chief took a knee to talk to the whiney AWOL pilot
Don’t get me wrong there are some things I don’t like about the series, Cortana looks weird, the finger nail sword, clunky looking armor, but from a narrative point the series is simply keeping me engaged. Infinite did not. You right tho Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, so as sad as it makes me, some of us will prefer the series some of us will prefer the books, and a minor minor (the smallest minority of people) will enjoy Infinite. Me personality it’s Halo Reach through 4 plus all the books and partially the series because otherwise I wouldn’t have paid attention to another Halo related thing for years to come
This point I don’t get. As far as cutscenes go, yes, infinite shows less action than other titles. Which would make it seems like the game has little action in it compared to the show if someone was to purely watch the cutscenes on YouTube. However if someone was to play the game, I don’t see how they would say this game has little action since most of the time would be spend shooting, punching, and blowing up aliens.
Judging by most reviews and user scores this game seems to have delivered on the promise of being “the next amazing installation in the campaign” to most users. While you were not satisfied by it, it does not mean that there was a blatant lie in that statement. I’ll agree that it does not make full use of the Xbox Series X. I also agree that the show tells the story it wants to tell just like all other Halo based games and novels have. But this thing about 343i fanboys. I hope you know that this show is also 343i product and if you like the show the way it is you are also being a 343i fanboy.
The chief has had a personality and free thoughts in as early as Halo CE. While he takes his helmet off in the books it’s never been in stupid situations like when someone threatened to shoot him or when he’s in a town full of people who could shoot him at any point. Him having is helmet and armor off on Reach made sense in the show since it’s friendly territory.
As for the pilot, he was just scared and whiney. He could not have been AWOL since the guy is a civilian, and not a member of the military’s. Pilot does not even have dog-tags and outside of his bulletproof vest he has no military gear on (compare what he is wearing to the marines). It’s possible to have guessed that the pilot was just a civilian before he breaks down and says so himself in that scene you mentioned.
This is just salt talking. Most peopled enjoyed the campaign.
By Reach through 4, do you mean in chronological order or the order of release? Whichever order it is, I agree with you. I personally loved all the Bungie era of books but I could not get into the 343i era ones past “Primordium.”
The other 343i Halo films “Forward Unto Dawn” and “Nightfall” are very bad. And those stuck closer to the lore in the books and games but failed on the execution. I’m still hoping to see a sci-fi war movie with the chief and co. I felt like episode 1 of this show started of strong and I wanted it to keep that momentum going all season like the Halo 3 “Band of Brothers” or “black hawk down” style commercials https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyOAdrxlPVs
I’m not sure I can concur. I’m not sure who their target audience is because most true Halo fans don’t like it and I know non Halo fans are definitely not going to like it. So did they make it for the handful of people that barely know of Halo?
Honestly it feels like a cheap Soap Opera version of Halo. The way the show lingers on people staring, and its so dramatic. We’ve been through 3 episodes and literally ALL of the action happened in the first 10mins of the first episode. IDK, I don’t like it. Some features are cool, like the plasma damage and Cortana’s OG voice actor being there. Other than that its no where near Halo content “in my opinion”.
So who exactly are they making the Halo show for? Because die hard Halo fans generally Hate it, and I know No non Halo people are going to like it because they know nothing of what is going on. The risk (IMO) is to publish something that MAY not fit the story or lore completely. That I could understand, maybe. But what this show is doing is not that at all. Whoever is pulling the strings behind this show (much like infinite) clearly has no true idea what is going on…
Like I’ve said many times. Just knowing the lore well enough allows one the ability to be able to add more content however they choose WHILE ALSO keeping the lore intact. They could’ve made a show anyway they wanted to, without actually harming the core content. Like the novels. each one of them are various stories in and around the core lore yet interweave without any affliction. . . They boost the lore and add to it. There is absolutely no NEED to change core ideals in a franchise, that’s how you kill a franchise. They chose not to know enough about the material and make a garbage story anyway. And now, there will be two “lore” stories that will only confuse people learning Halo in the future. They didn’t need to do any of that, and it was weak and offensive to do it IMO.
Show sits at a 57% on rotten tomatoes and a 7.2 on IMDB.
Opinions on the show are mixed right now.
I will wait for once the season is done to see where the overall needle lands.
I don’t think you’re being rude.
You are also correct, my halo bias is exactly why I am offended. Personally I think any Halo related media Should definitely be within the realm of the lore (preferably cannon). While saying that, I’m not a rigid stone and I am open to other ideals in the Halo community but there is a certain level (I feel) needs to be maintained, which it is not. Removing chiefs, helmet and armor and changing the cannon lore completely = huge no no. Changning captain keyes and miranda and admiral paganosky into diferent ethinicity = not a big deal and is ok. They just are not resepcting the franchise and it hurts people who have dived way down deep intot the Halo lore.
Now onto your resources. Honestly, the reviews from people who know very little about Halo and who are only on the scene because Halo is “popular” right now don’t reallt mean anything to me. Millions of people love the Crocs shoes and cheating on their significant others, but I don’t support their opinions either. So, all the “reviews” and “ratings” that "deteremine " the success of new medias are mere dust in my dessert eyes… I see the show for what it is, a quick chance to grab dramatic attention and funds. and I despise it. . .
I’m admit to not enjoying the latest episode (episode 4) but I’m going to see where the season goes I suppose, not a whole lot of new shows worth watching nowadays anyways.
The only good thing about the TV series is that they’re not afraid to show blood. One could even say they happily included it unlike the games. Beyond that the shows narrative is complete dog water. I’ll take Infinite’s incomplete story over garbage.
I am a long-time original Halo fan, to me they totally ruined Master Chiefs persona. They should have never given him a face. And the whole thing about him being force into the Spartan program and now him questioning him loyalty and such is just garbage drama that is not needed. They have made the whole UNSC look like they go around hurting human populations and feared by many. They should have left it as UNSC against the Covenant. They could have come up with plenty of story line in that alone. Like someone posted earlier, I feel like I am watching an alternate universe version of Halo. Highly disappointed.