Hey everyone! I made this post where we can discuss the final episode of the 1st season of the TV series. The episode premieres at 12am PST/3am EST. Enjoy and let’s discuss!
I just finished watching this finale episode, and the show is truly pathetic, so many characters character murdered for no reason, and in the end they never even made it to the ring. Whoever signed off on this script truly should be fired, this show is not Halo by anything except name, its a shameless cash grab, I mean even the fight scenes in the covenant temple looked like something a high schooler could do in blender, and this is supposed to be AAA quality HA HA HA HA HA HA HA, 343 can go rot as far as I am concerned, the Name Halo used to carry value with it, those were the days.
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I don’t think this had 343’s seal of approval. I think there’s someone near the top that wanted to start putting this type of thing into Halo, but rather than just letting this infest the lore, 343 gave them one non-canon TV show to go wild on so everyone could see how bad it was, so the canonical continuity could remain free of this garbage.
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I actually thought this episode was okay. Its stuck with the creative choices of the previous episodes, but generally uses them well enough. While the environment CGI was…really not good I felt like I was watching a halo show at least.
Really I have two main issues with this episode in and of itself:
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So the system they’ve been scanning for 4 episodes turns out to have some random cosmic strand thingy that could obscure a planet, and for some reason no one thought this could obscure a planet until cortana pointed it out. We got no impression earlier that anything was obscuring the system as they were able to pick out other non-inhabited planets just fine. Furthermore, Cortana doesnt seem to warn its dangerous till they get caught in it, possibly killing everyone including herself.
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Makee dieing is kind of lame. I feel like her character served little purpose. She wasn’t an eye into covenant culture. She feels forced and then she just dies. I hope the covenant doesnt just somehow magically resurrect her though, especially since they dont think highly of her it seems.
Not a major thing, but the Halsey clone body double is an interesting idea but I feel like it doesn’t make sense how it was used. Is Halsey’s escape pod just equipped with a clone of her in case she needs to make a getaway? Its sure a good thing they only found her clone and not her since they’d presumably both be leaving the escape pod.
Based on what? Kiki Wolfkill is stated to be rather involved in the series, as is a number of 343 brass from what we’ve been told.
Why does every single time 343 messes up we’re supposed to not blame them but some faceless higher entity.
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It definitely could have been better. It had cool looking honor guards although not a distinct color pallet. Show overall could have used another episode to really show off what they could do but I think we can be optimistic. Cortana really should have been someone who just pointed out enemy weakness not just become Chief and now I’m just dumbstruck.
I hope there will be more action scenes and explosions in season 2.
This will not involve extremely poor characterization and behavioral logic.
Fact 1: someone wanted the show made, because otherwise it wouldn’t have been. But we don’t know who that person or persons is.
Fact 2: there’s enough consensus at 343 that this show was never going to be real Halo that they publicly announced that it was not canon (which is what “silver timeline” means when virtually everything else from the last 20 years is in the same “gold” timeline) long before the first episode even aired.
Fact 3: when a creator is creating content that 343 approves of wholly, they have a lot of oversight, and their work is checked against the Halo story bible (the official documentation of official canon used to keep all of the continuity coherent), such as they did for Greg Bear’s Forerunner Trilogy, for which they even lent him a copy of the Halo story bible to make sure everything he wrote fit.
Fact 4: They didn’t do any of that with the showrunners. They were given a 5-day crash-course on lore, then turned loose to make their non-canon show.
The evidence strongly shows that 343 let the show happen to appease a certain demographic without letting this infest their carefully-crafted continuity. Any “343 brass” involved in the show are probably the individuals I referenced that you called the “faceless higher entities”. Again, if the show had 343’s full approval, they wouldn’t have distanced themselves from it early on or let the show runners spit on established lore at every turn.
Is there a reason Cortana wasn’t using the dropship the entire time?
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The show is a joke. I can’t even watch it and I’ve been in to the halo universe since day 1. Why the heck they would break Canon so bad I have zero idea. 343 has absolutely ruined halo. I doubt I’ll even buy the next game when it comes out in 2036.
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You’re not putting your anger in the right place. Look at all of the franchises that have been maimed in recent years by people taking over who do to those franchises exactly what this TV show did, except those additions weren’t declared to be non-canon before they even aired. 343 had the sense to do that. They let the (particular demographic) have what they wanted in a TV show, and made it non-canon, so everyone could see how bad it was, and it wouldn’t affect the rest of the Halo story.
If anything, 343 sacrificed the TV show to spare the rest of the franchise.
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I never watched the episodes for that reason
I’m lost. Why was it necessary? Are you saying 343 didn’t have a say in the show? If that’s the case then so be it. I’m just sick of great stories getting ruined. Current halo. Disney and star wars. It’s sickening to the long time fan.
I still blame 343 for ruining the game. No closure from halo 5. Infinite, well, the fans mean nothing. Just a bunch of developers who think that they know what we want more than we know what we want.
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This is a horrible cop out of an answer, you don’t make bad content just to make bad content, if they were not going to do the show the right way, then it never should have been done in the first place. Stop making excuses for 343 when they have shown time and time again that if there is one thing they are good at, its being incompetent with the Halo IP.
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[quote=“sum0ne, post:12, topic:518195, full:true”]
Franchise after franchise are collapsing because anti-fans are worming their way in and destroying them by replacing what they are with the anti-fans’ agendas. Star Trek, Star Wars, Doctor Who, Terminator, James Bond, the MCU, etc.
It’d be better to keep this out of Halo altogether, but failing that, relegating it to something that’s already been boxed off from the rest of it as non-canon is the next best thing. It lets the antifans have something they want, to showcase how bad it is, so hopefully it’s easier to show the top executives that future products should be catered to the majority of the fans, not the anti-fans.
Note: by anti-fan, I’m not referring to people who just like different things. I’m referring to the people who claim to be fans of a franchise, but make it their purpose to change the franchise into something it never was, making it cease to be what it is. Such individuals are not real fans. They’re anti-fans.
I don’t like the fight scene coregraphy when they weaken a hundred of elites and brutes just to make spartans badass as hell, this is absolutely not realistic.
Poor elites, they were ridiculed in the first episode and in the last they are literally hundreds to die. The elites are supposed to be many because they are supposed to be badass, here they pass for cannon pulpit
And since when spartans are able to land on their feet after a orbital jump ?
I also very don’t like that Cortana is able to controll Master Chief and became more powerfull that him. And it’s very ridiculous that she is able to controlled the ship to kill the covenants only after that, she could have done it since the begining.
Also, the three prophets who aren’t protect by ships, seriously ?
Makee is their only reclaimer and she don’t know they want to betray her, so it’s in their interest to save her. I think this character have a lot of potential, I would like to see her came back and fight humanity and the covenants with the power of forerunne tech
Well, that happened. 
Even Halo 5 Cortana didn’t flesh puppet Chiefs body. That’s pretty messed up.
Not to mention its worrying that they’re introducing that element. If Cortana can possess Chief why not other people and that could get twisted very quickly. I mean they already had her jealously watching Chief and Makee.
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I promised to give the show a fair assessment, so I watched the entire season before posting.
It’s everything I feared before it aired. Bar a few action sequences, it’s complete TRASH!
Sad that it got financed for two seasons at the start as it’ll continue to be another skidmark on the Halo brand. That it’s not canon is irrelevant, really, many people will associate this with the rest of the established universe.
Halo sure took a nosedive under 343’s tender, OMG…
I’ll keep this opininion. It should NEVER have been live action, but a BLUR quality CGI movie with the original voice actors that was entirely canon and the same should apply to any future Gears of War cinematic projects.
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I wanted to wait until the finale for my final thoughts.
So first off, I have to say the production crew did a phenomenal job on the scenery, props, vehicles, weapons and armor. They did so well at bringing the ‘look’ of the Halo universe into our reality(if only they brought the lore with it too). So, I have to give praise and thanks for all that hard work. They deserve it and at least we finally got a Halo show, it wasn’t exactly what we wanted, but hey, we got something. (I also agree that an animated or CGI film/show would have been better, but that wasn’t the type of audience they were aiming for)
The only negative things I can say is that the TV show’s story line is drastically different from the video games. This show really could have changed all the names and titles and would have been a completely different thing, but it seems they stamped ‘Halo’ on it only for branding purposes. It made each episode very difficult to swallow in the beginning, but after pulling back my expectations of the video game’s story and stepping into more of a ‘total remake’ in a TV show format. I was able to see the writing a little better and not be so affected by the big changes. The writing at first seemed mysterious and interesting but as the plot was unfolding mid season, it all started to feel a tad bit rushed. I think an entire episode dedicated to Kwan was a waste of an episode. Even though one of my favorite scenes in the first season was the ghosts communicating with Kwan at that well. That was an incredible moment. I still don’t understand exactly why her family is important, but we can guess that it has something to do with the Monitor her ancestors spoke with(the monitor might even show up to talk to Kwan in Season 2).
Another scene that was kind of cool was the quick clash between Chief and microwaved “Atriox” at the end of Episode 5. I’m calling the Brute Chieftain, “Atriox”, because that’s what the show’s subtitles called it during the finale.
I can’t say this show’s story was good or bad because it had me shocked into what was going to happen next but also the story is just so different from the games… It really feels like they should have called it something else. Without any video game-bias thinking, I think the show really needed more time in each episode or more episodes to flesh out the characters and plots a tiny bit more(especially since they changed plots and some of these characters so much). I think the fatal flaw is the fact that it is based on Halo to begin with. They are trying to follow the franchise but also wanted to go a different way? and it just really hurts the overall storytelling for anyone who knows Halo lore. The dedicated fans are left scratching their heads while the new comers might actually be interested in this new sci-fi themed TV show. It was a very strange feeling.
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What you refer to as anti fans I would consider current writers and developers.
Just finished watching the first season since Paramount+ was a $1/month prime day deal…
I’ve read all the books, played all the games, met several of the authors and some folks like Frank O’Conner.
Completely stupified how this story came to be - just makes no sense at all.
If I completely shut my brain off from all prior Halo knowledge, it was still a poorly written story made even worse by throwing in tropes.
If they were not even going to get to the ring in the story, they should have just started the series with Harvest or the Fall of Reach
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