Alright guys, so I’m in need of a little help. I’m a huge Halo fan, but I never got into any of the books.
What I know of the Halo series:
UNSC/Inserectionist war
some knowledge on forerunners
most knowledge on the covies
How/why the spartans where created
all the basic knowledge.
But as I go about these forums, I see all these posts about the flood (I know a bit about) and the precursors. I have very VERY little knowledge, on these guys, but I’d really like to know a bit more about them, someone give me some hardcore explanations!
Grave mind runs these forums…
Yeah, just go on a tear through Halopedia and you’ll be a knowledgeable Halo player in no time!
> Yeah, just go on a tear through Halopedia and you’ll be a knowledgeable Halo player in no time!
Was that supposed to be a shot at me?
The Precursors were a race before the Forerunners, and created the rest of the life in the galaxy. The Forerunners fought the Precursors and killed all of them down to one survivor, kept in prison called the Primordial. The Flood were created by the Precursors. These are the facts as I know them.
Popular theory is, the Precursors created the Flood to create universal peace, and to love forever. The Primordial has been confirmed to be the first Gravemind. Here is a flaw- the Flood seek out food abd ravenously feed until all are consumed. If the Precursors created the Mantle (a code of ethics to govern the perpetuity lf life and cradle it to allow it to grow to its best potential) and the Precursors became the Flood knowingly and willingly, then they have abandoned the Mantle because they would ultimately end life once all is consumed.
There is evidence that suggests this is true. The Forerunners took the Mantle of Responsibility from the Precursors. Maybe they knew the Precursors were planning something drastic and devastating, and that sparked the war. Its odd the Flood came for humanity first, and not the Forerunners; my theory is, maybe the Precursors didn’t think they could beat the Forerunners alone, so maybe they thought by consuming the humans first would make the Flood an unstoppable force?
I am basing this on the books as I read them when they came out, so I could have some wrong facts.
In the 25th century, there were several secession movements who peacefully protested to get separated from the UEG and the CAA. In vain. There were a few violent incidents here and there. After being tired after several years, there was a particular accident which is said to trigger the conflict, the Callisto incident. One ship an innie controlled military ship, lured ships into an asteroid field and used a nuke on an asteroid to cripple and destroy some three government military ships. Preston Cole was aboard one of those. He successfully used a fake surrender to surprise the innies and strike back. The conflict started and several cells have been using violent tactics targeting military and civilian targets some times.
ONI recruited doctor Halsey to make a super soldier program, successor to project ORION, to stop the insurrectionists. She determined six year olds were the best for that. In 2517, they were training some 75 children daily. Some survived the augmentations in 2525, others did not. Some were crippled, of those, some were rehabilitated. The children were chosen by genetic screening among other criteria to find the best children. The most intelligent, strongest, best, would be chosen to become Spartans.
Ask me later. This is from memory and all.
> The Precursors were a race before the Forerunners, and created the rest of the life in the galaxy. The Forerunners fought the Precursors and killed all of them down to one survivor, kept in prison called the Primordial. The Flood were created by the Precursors. These are the facts as I know them.
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> Popular theory is, the Precursors created the Flood to create universal peace, and to love forever. The Primordial has been confirmed to be the first Gravemind. Here is a flaw- the Flood seek out food abd ravenously feed until all are consumed. If the Precursors created the Mantle (a code of ethics to govern the perpetuity lf life and cradle it to allow it to grow to its best potential) and the Precursors became the Flood knowingly and willingly, then they have abandoned the Mantle because they would ultimately end life once all is consumed.
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> There is evidence that suggests this is true. The Forerunners took the Mantle of Responsibility from the Precursors. Maybe they knew the Precursors were planning something drastic and devastating, and that sparked the war. <mark>Its odd the Flood came for humanity first, and not the Forerunners; my theory is, maybe the Precursors didn’t think they could beat the Forerunners alone, so maybe they thought by consuming the humans first would make the Flood an unstoppable force?</mark>
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> I am basing this on the books as I read them when they came out, so I could have some wrong facts.
Lou, I was under the impression that the Precursors devised the Flood as a test to determine if Humanity was worthy of assuming the Mantle. But I was confused when I read the Flood were able to control who was assimilated. So, did Humanity find a cure for Flood infection, or did they only choose not to infect them?
Far as I remember, Humanity infected a third of its population with a counter-poison, that rocked the flood to it’s core whenever consumed. Might be wrong about that, though.
So, the last precursor was the gravemind? Isn’t gravemind freaking huge? Were all precursors that big or was the size due to the flood?
> Far as I remember, Humanity infected a third of its population with a counter-poison, that rocked the flood to it’s core whenever consumed. Might be wrong about that, though.
Yep, that’s right. Forgot about that. So Humanity did pass the test to obtain the Mantle, but Didact put a stop to all that when he done did bust our genome back to the Stone Age. That makes more sense now.
> So, the last precursor was the gravemind? Isn’t gravemind freaking huge? Were all precursors that big or was the size due to the flood?
The Primordial, or the last Precursor, became a Gravemind. Speculation says he may have been the first Gravemind, the harbinger of the Flood that the Precursors created. We don’t know how big Precursors were, but we do know how big the Primordial was. Remember that Graveminds are constructed from many Flood forms in assimilation, and their form can vary as a result. We don’t know if the Primordial was one Precursor-Flood, or many.
Humanity did not pass the test for the Mantle when they initially “beat” the Flood, the Primordial said that they would indeed be tested about 100,000 years later. So it matches up with the timeline.
> So, the last precursor was the gravemind? Isn’t gravemind freaking huge? Were all precursors that big or was the size due to the flood?
That is what is speculated. It’s also thought that the Precursors made the Forerunner in their image, and subsequently we took the form of Forerunner. With minor differences.
As the Precursors are thought to have transcended physical form as part of their later evolution, it’s hard to tell what form they would have been in. All the fiction points to structures and architecture that is in line with beings somewhat like us and the Forerunner.
> Humanity did not pass the test for the Mantle when they initially “beat” the Flood, the Primordial said that they would indeed be tested about 100,000 years later. So it matches up with the timeline.
Cobra, so is the Human/Promethean War that test? I didn’t know about the later test.
> > So, the last precursor was the gravemind? Isn’t gravemind freaking huge? Were all precursors that big or was the size due to the flood?
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> That is what is speculated. It’s also thought that the Precursors made the Forerunner in their image, and subsequently we took the form of Forerunner. With minor differences.
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> As the Precursors are thought to have transcended physical form as part of their later evolution, it’s hard to tell what form they would have been in. All the fiction points to structures and architecture that is in line with beings somewhat like us and the Forerunner.
Forerunners and humans were made about about the same time if not that long apart. It is doubtful the Precursors made them in their image though as there are different kinds of Precursors.
> > Humanity did not pass the test for the Mantle when they initially “beat” the Flood, the Primordial said that they would indeed be tested about 100,000 years later. So it matches up with the timeline.
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> Cobra, so is the Human/Promethean War that test? I didn’t know about the later test.
Unclear, but if you look at it in a certain way it seems like everything was planned to preserve humanity so they can be tested. Flood arrives in their systems, spreads, the humans move in on Forerunner territory, humans develop a “cure” thanks to the Primordial, humans are defeated by Forerunners who learn about the Flood, keep humans around to find the cure, humans saved for another day.
Without the cure, humans would’ve been destroyed.
Cobra, yep, never mind. I read it wrong. The Precursors are responsible for seeding the galaxy with life - not necessarily making any species in their image.
Does this information come from Cryptum and Primordium? I’ll be reading those next week and am looking forward to finally getting the actual background into this.
> Does this information come from Cryptum and Primordium? I’ll be reading those next week and am looking forward to finally getting the actual background into this.
Most of it comes from Primordium I think. Cryptum essentially sets up the Forerunner Saga and Primordium dives into it.