Halo Show my first impression after watching ep 1

My son and I are absolutely loving the first episode. It is such, such, SUCH a shame that him and I can not play Halo Infinite Campaign together (at the same time). I know they want to do it right, and I really hope they do.

We are not HUGE Halo Heads like a lot of you as he just started being able to play MCC with me but I am sure we are the exact target market demo for the show, and the modern Halo Universe. So yeah, we are loving the show, and just wish we were having a better experience with the game.

Question is how they’re going to handle it.
Indoctrination, brainwashing, training and being raised a certain way doesn’t all just wash up and you become a “decent human with good morals” just because you suddenly remember a few childhood memories.
Game-John actually contemplate his abduction at some point and is, glad? about it, because he didn’t know what he’d be later in life before the abduction. Yes, he was six at his abduction and few six year olds have a solid plan for later in life, but, the whole thought still makes sense because it was true, and he never experienced anything else than military life.

Are we going to see Series-John realise the horrors he’s been subjected to? Is he going to have a “moral awakening” despite not knowing anything else as he’s been trained and taught since the age of six, to “resonate” with the viewers?

No, this is typical black and white bad writing.
Hammering down on the “This is bad, but this, now this is good” is predictable and boring writing to where it’s not entertaining. It becomes repetitive and dull, with no later impact no matter what kind of immoral thing going on.

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oooOoOoOoooooOoooOooh somebody wants shades of grey in their story about how an underclass is being subjugated, I wonder why!

We’re taking that route now are we?
Please, continue that thought of yours. I don’t know why you stopped at the “why”. What are you alluding to? Something about my character? My personality? Preferences? Opinions? Situation?
If it’s not something bad, why stop? Then considering I was against your point of view, what point would there even be in that kind of reasoning?

Now, given your “tone” and my opposition, I’d wager that it’s not actually nice, and it’s directed at me, as a person. Not against what I said, an Ad Hominem, wouldn’t you agree? You stopped before making it actually bad, so as to not get in trouble, but leaving enough in for others to get the easy hints you try to allude to my person, and as such devalue what I said and not in any way have to take the argument, or making me “wrong”.

A makes a claim x, B asserts that A holds a property that is unwelcome, and hence B concludes that argument x is wrong

Why? Who truly knows but you?

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Precious.
Nothing like making massive assumptions about someone you have no clue of their entire life, on a few sentences, and then run wild and wide with it.

Or, you know, it’s just as simple as having a preference that black-and-white only stories which hammer down hard on certain aspect, as if the reader can’t comprehend things, or the writers is afraid the reader will come to conclusions they don’t want the reader to have ( railroading ), makes it a rather dull, impactless and boring story to follow.

Sure sure…
That’s why you posted this response, after making vague statements and questions.

You admitted to it, confirming my suspicions.

No, I was fishing for the rest of it.

Pretty sure it never became an argument when the first thing you did was pull the Ad Hominem card.

And yet here you are, elaborating on a personal accusation.

And yet here you are again with something close to slander.
It’s not really that I think they do, it’s that they actually fall well within the borders of the fallacies, and with that, the lack of impact and weight.

So?
You saw what I wrote and chose to post a personal attack. Rather than engage the subject, or, just leave it be, your action was of hostility.
You don’t caring what I think changes none of that.

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I want you to know I read your post in Harkon’s voice from Skyrim, to my wife, while she binds a book and I dawdle about in said game.

This is probably the funniest stuff I’ve seen all year, keep it up.

Haha, it got flagged.

Anyway, yeah. First episode is really good. Craving more of that insurgent bent.

And the desired effect you imagine that having, is?

And?

I wonder why!
-KCD0DGER

Quite clear there’s no ground you have to stand on when it comes to your own preferences, instead resorting to the most basic of reactions, hostility.
Now if you’ll excuse me I’ll go see if there are available times at the blood donation to schedule.

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Did you just try to posture by saying you were going to donate blood…?

Sadly, I can’t because they don’t take blood from -Yoink!- like me.

Nope, I returned the favour of sharing an activity I had going on at the moment of posting.

Myeah, all kinds of odd limitations in place.

Holdover from the -Yoink!- crisis, gotta’ love homophobic laws that are still in place for… Some reason.

spoiler alert snape kills Dumbledore

the real master chief would have taken her gun from her, held it to her head and say something along the lines of “this is non-negotiable, just trust me” or at least that’s what bungies MC would have done

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this is something that 343 hasn’t seemed to grasp since the end of H4 when we went on the quite literal suicide mission with the nuke onto diadact’s ship. since that point Master Chief has been super emo, and for no reason whatsoever has been obsessing over Cortana who he saw as a piece of military equipment through the first three games (all be it an invaluable piece). she died and he really needs to get over it stop being a cry baby and become a spartan again.

So far i dont think this is for hardcore fans to enjoy there many deviation that im not comfortable with some cgi has thrown me off mainly the part where chief throws down his assualt rifle looked really bad to me

The violence was on point really made you go wow the covenant is hopless to fight against while civilians get destroyed but i really didn’t like the elite armor they should’ve gone with halo 2 and 3 elite armor cause it doesn’t look like it matches their tech at all

Now Im ok with keyes being black as long as the actor was chosen based on his abilities to act not his race i loved captain keyes as a character since i was young i wont lie was a little disappointed he was race swapped because itd be like if i race swapped sgt major avery johnson itd be outrageous but its ok and overall he does a good job but whoever writes the script does not really capture how keyes is in my opinion but the actor does do a great job making it work

Spartans for some reason having their memories wiped before being trained to be spartans is weird and lore breaking for me cause spartan candidates have escape got back to their homes to find out they’ve been replaced by flash clones throws me off a little aswell as making chief so emotional his whole thing is people saying to him is your not a machine and right now i dont see him as chief hes a completely different person that seems to like taking off his helmet and then theres this whole blessed people where only certain humans can activate forunner tech when their all supposed to be able to activate them

Im personally not going to muddy a story i love with all this random stuff but i will come back once sgt Johnson makes a appearance i do hope people enjoy it i personally just dont like the changes they’ve made

The old grump deserved it :smiling_imp:

I dislike this assumption that those who detract from the show only do so because of their ‘pride’ and wanting it to be a 1:1 canon.

It’s just… cheesy, and bad. It doesn’t just not match up with the canon, it quite plainly doesn’t feel like Halo to me.

The costumes and props are terrible, the armor looks plastic and fake, the weapons and vehicles are so blatantly modern/not form 500 years from now. The writing felt very cheesy, and I was surprised to see that the fighting felt very cheesy as well, there was a very fake and weird power-rangery kind of style to it.

Frankly I’ve been surprised seeing how positive some reactions are, but I forget that a lot of people have different standards for what is or isn’t cheesy. I mean… Halo is cheesy. Halo CE → 2/3 and then 4 and 5 have pretty cheesy writing. Cheesy moments (like giving the covenant back their bomb,) are at the core of the Halo we know and love. I suppose I’ve just hoped more and more as I’ve grown older that Halo would mature with us, and that the Halo of the future would be more like Halo Reach, serious military science fiction with minimally cheesy aspects.

Then again, considering that the show is rated around 60% by most audiences, maybe my perception of everyone’s opinion of the show is skewed by places like the forums and twitter.