I never understood that saying or statement tbh. Don’t get me wrong I completely understand how important consumer retention is. But you think you’re always gonna keep everyone is insane. And we are all untitled to opinions without bashing each other about them if it were up to you when would halo have stopped?
I always found wishing for something to end because you are tired of it or feel it’s no long as good pretty hilarious.
Like let’s take something else crazy popular right now supernatural tv series. You stopped watching after season 3 and now they at 12?? " oh they are just milking it they should have stopped after 3".
But whyy? Clearly ppl are still enjoying it lol it’s also theirs to make. Just stop watching no?
now this isn’t a stop complaint about halo 5 farthest thing from that. Yes this forum is filled useless post but there are some brilliant minds here and we’re all passionate about our halo.
But coming down on someone who enjoyed reach because I feel it all should have ended after 3 is hella arrogant.( and I hated halo reach lol)
unless you hold stocks in something and then pushing out new product costs you money you can’t really wish that lol. Bunch things movie, games, tv series that I no longer follow but why bash the ppl enjoying it now lol
I’m not following your post. You want the series to end or you want it to continue? If I had to choose a place for the series to end it’d be well before Halo 3, I’d stop it at H2, and basically create Halo’s own version of Counter Strike.
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> unless you holk stocks in something and then pushing out new product costs you money you can’t really wish that lol. Bunch things movie, games, tv series that I no longer follow but why bash the ppl enjoying it now lol
I’m not addressing “Halo” here. Halo imo has taken two steps forward and one and a half steps back from H4 with H5. But the idea that people shouldn’t be upset about a perceived drop in quality in a franchise (Movie, TV Series, Games, Whatever) is laughable. The world isn’t solely run on profit and people can have opinions about things without having a financial stake in them and particularly with things that people love those opinions run deep. Let’s take something almost universally reviled the star wars prequels. Did some people enjoy them, yes. Were they good, certainly not. Did they take something away from the franchise, again probably. The franchise was definitely made worse by having three bad movies in it.
It should have stopped at Halo 3. I think its a sign when the original creator decided it was time to move on. Bungie’s original vision is Halo, and when their vision ended, any “Halo” produced by another team who lacks the same vision will not feel like Halo.
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> > unless you holk stocks in something and then pushing out new product costs you money you can’t really wish that lol. Bunch things movie, games, tv series that I no longer follow but why bash the ppl enjoying it now lol
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> I’m not addressing “Halo” here. Halo imo has taken two steps forward and one and a half steps back from H4 with H5. But the idea that people shouldn’t be upset about a perceived drop in quality in a franchise (Movie, TV Series, Games, Whatever) is laughable. The world isn’t solely run on profit and people can have opinions about things without having a financial stake in them and particularly with things that people love those opinions run deep. Let’s take something almost universally reviled the star wars prequels. Did some people enjoy them, yes. Were they good, certainly not. Did they take something away from the franchise, again probably. The franchise was definitely made worse by having three bad movies in it.
Oh that makes more sense. So what the OP and you are trying to get at, don’t stock the pond with dying fish, cause it’s only going to get you sick? Obviously that’s a much more general statement, but I think I get your idea. And no, I don’t think things should go down in quality or drop so drastically because it has more iterations, if anything, that should boost the quality.
You do mention the Star Wars films, and I’d also throw in the final Batman Arkham Knight, that game was a flop and a half but it didn’t ruin the series, it just put a damper on the ending to what was a pretty solid run of games.
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> I’m not following your post. You want the series to end or you want it to continue? If I had to choose a place for the series to end it’d be well before Halo 3, I’d stop it at H2, and basically create Halo’s own version of Counter Strike.
Haha sorry iPhone screen while on the bus make for a very confusing post! I wanted to know if ppl had the choice where would halo have stopped and why loll
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> I’m not addressing “Halo” here. Halo imo has taken two steps forward and one and a half steps back from H4 with H5. But the idea that people shouldn’t be upset about a perceived drop in quality in a franchise (Movie, TV Series, Games, Whatever) is laughable. The world isn’t solely run on profit and people can have opinions about things without having a financial stake in them and particularly with things that people love those opinions run deep. Let’s take something almost universally reviled the star wars prequels. Did some people enjoy them, yes. Were they good, certainly not. Did they take something away from the franchise, again probably. The franchise was definitely made worse by having three bad movies in it.
Can’t profit anyways if you run everyone away.
For example: I have stopped listening to some of my favorite musicians because they changed their style of music/lyrics, Tv series because of plot changes all w/o hesitation.
I don’t think they should stop just because the 1% of the community that actually posts on these forums thinks so. I’ve enjoyed Halo since I was a cute little kid playing an M-rated game back in 2001. I’m still enjoying the game, I’ve enjoyed them all (although Reach was my least favorite, the same as OP), and I believe I’m going to continue enjoying them until Halo dies a natural death, which I don’t see happening in the near future.
People can gripe about the new Halo titles as much as they want, and they can be part of the fanbase that leaves for something else if they so please. I’m going to keep playing even if only 100 people buy Halo 12. I’ll be one of those 100, even if the guns shoot buffalo chicken and Spartans have become lizard-men.
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> It should have stopped at Halo 3. I think its a sign when the original creator decided it was time to move on. Bungie’s original vision is Halo, and when their vision ended, any “Halo” produced by another team who lacks the same vision will not feel like Halo.
Nah. You just need to find a studio who actually cares about respecting the source material. The switching of creative hands doesn’t always have to end in disaster, in fact some times it’s even a good thing when the initial creator has lost their way…
> I’m going to keep playing even if only 100 people buy Halo 12. I’ll be one of those 100, even if the guns shoot buffalo chicken and Spartans have become lizard-men.
I don’t even know how to respond to this. As in there’s no polite way for me to point out the flaws with this that would fall within the boundaries of the forum rules.
Your post sounds like you are suggesting that the “Halo should have stopped after x game” sentiments are ridiculous, but then later you say you are interested in hearing where we think the series should have stopped… (Trying to make sense of this)
Honestly, as a long-time Halo fan (was 12 when CE came out), I feel that it should have stopped at Halo 3 if that specific Legendary ending hadn’t existed. So from a story perspective, with what we have now, then Halo 4 makes a whole lot more sense as the final game (H5 does a disservice to everything gained (and lost) in that story). But from a gameplay perspective, it should have still stopped at H3 since Reach just didn’t feel right, IMO, and H4, though an interesting campaign, also had the more CoD-ish elements. I’m also getting a bit tired of all of the EU stuff and characters I don’t care for. shrug
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> Your post sounds like you are suggesting that the “Halo should have stopped after x game” sentiments are ridiculous, but then later you say you are interested in hearing where we think the series should have stopped… (Trying to make sense of this)
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Loll my baddd. My personal opinion is I don’t always agree with the ppl saying this should have stopped there and using it to negatively attack ppl enjoying afterwards. But still looking for opinions on where every stands on when it should have ended. Without it turning into a flame fest of old vs new
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> Loll my baddd. My personal opinion is I don’t always agree with the ppl saying this should have stopped there and using it to negatively attack ppl enjoying afterwards. But still looking for opinions on where every stands on when it should have ended. Without it turning into a flame fest of old vs new
Thank-you for clarifying and being honest. Perhaps you could edit your original post with a note stating that, so people don’t misunderstand? =)
I don’t think it should have stopped after any game and I’m glad they didn’t stop. BUT if I had to choose, I’d say after Reach. The reason is because Halo 3 was a success, you can’t really stop after a success. But I thought Reach was a fail, so it would have been a good stopping point, imo.
I also think that Halo 4 should have went off of Halo 3 gameplay and expanded off that, instead of going off Reach’s and expanding/ making that better. I believe that because they tried to tweak Reach’s gameplay, it caused Halo 4 to become a fail as well.
Look at GoW judgement, that’s their fail game, and for Gears 4 they are expanding off of GoW 3 gameplay. Not judgement. I think they’re taking the approach that 343i/Halo should have taken.
Although it may have taken a while… I think 343 pretty much nailed it with Halo 5. It could use more playlists though😉
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He likes to naw on his pizza skin AR and his French fry skin magnum when he gets hungry. He’s also a shapeshifting reptile that’s apart of the iluminate.
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> > It should have stopped at Halo 3. I think its a sign when the original creator decided it was time to move on. Bungie’s original vision is Halo, and when their vision ended, any “Halo” produced by another team who lacks the same vision will not feel like Halo.
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> I don’t even know how to respond to this. As in there’s no polite way for me to point out the flaws with this that would fall within the boundaries of the forum rules.
I don’t think the second part was meant to be taken seriously.
I believe every Halo game is amazing in a different way. That’s my opinion. Just like how saying any Halo game is “bad” is someone else’s. Everyone can say their opinions, they’re entitled to them, but when I go through these threads and see people labeling 343’s Halo as “bad”, I cringe a little. You shouldn’t push that kind of thing as fact.
Only the creators can decide if their work is “bad”. Then it becomes fact in my opinion.
TL;DR: If you’re going to say negative things about Halo or any other form of media, please put an IMO somewhere in the post. K thx bai.