What ship did 343 Guilty spark take over?
edit, title fixed
It is still unknown at this time
That wasn’t in Glasslands that was in Primordium. It also wasn’t 343 Guilty Spark but Chakas in Monitor form.
Technically, 343 Guilty Spark is Chakas right, but two clones produced?
Spark is a fragment split from Chakas.
Also, the book in question is Primordium, not Glasslands. And as Shadow said, it is Chakas.
> That wasn’t in Glasslands that was in Primordium. It also wasn’t 343 Guilty Spark but Chakas in Monitor form.
I know it was Chakas, but from the book it looked like they were one in the same aren’t they?
no. The book clearly demonstrates they are not the same so i don’t understand how people are coming to this conclusion if they read the book. I mean you saw 343 get destroyed so i don’t see where there is logic in thinking there was another form or version of him.
Guilty Spark is Chakas, but Chakas isn’t Guilty Spark.
> > That wasn’t in Glasslands that was in Primordium. It also wasn’t 343 Guilty Spark but Chakas in Monitor form.
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> I know it was Chakas, but from the book it looked like they were one in the same aren’t they?
Not at all. Chakas was made into a monitor and was used for the basis of several other Monitors including 343 Guilty Spark. While Chakas knew of the other fragments, the fragments likely didn’t know of their origins. 343 definitely didn’t know he was created from Chakas, and Chakas was only aware of 343’s actions based on data from the ONI ship he eventually took over.
For some reason, Greg Bear decided, at the end, to associate 343 GS and Chakas, which has lead to a lot of confusion among most fans. However, these two are not one in the same.
> > > That wasn’t in Glasslands that was in Primordium. It also wasn’t 343 Guilty Spark but Chakas in Monitor form.
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> > I know it was Chakas, but from the book it looked like they were one in the same aren’t they?
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> Not at all. Chakas was made into a monitor and was used for the basis of several other Monitors including 343 Guilty Spark. While Chakas knew of the other fragments, the fragments likely didn’t know of their origins. 343 definitely didn’t know he was created from Chakas, and Chakas was only aware of 343’s actions based on data from the ONI ship he eventually took over.
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> For some reason, Greg Bear decided, at the end, to associate 343 GS and Chakas, which has lead to a lot of confusion among most fans. However, these two are not one in the same.
I would compare it to Halsey and Cortana, one is made from the other but they aren’t the same.
> > > That wasn’t in Glasslands that was in Primordium. It also wasn’t 343 Guilty Spark but Chakas in Monitor form.
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> > I know it was Chakas, but from the book it looked like they were one in the same aren’t they?
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> Not at all. Chakas was made into a monitor and was used for the basis of several other Monitors including 343 Guilty Spark. While Chakas knew of the other fragments, the fragments likely didn’t know of their origins. 343 definitely didn’t know he was created from Chakas, and Chakas was only aware of 343’s actions based on data from the ONI ship he eventually took over.
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> For some reason, Greg Bear decided, at the end, to associate 343 GS and Chakas, which has lead to a lot of confusion among most fans. However, these two are not one in the same.
Actually the fragments do know (or at least 343) as chakas says we never asked were the monitored came from as that would explain its behavior.