Halo is so dead

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Congrats to 343 for a Halo game that ranks thirteenth on the live activity charts less than a year after release, being beaten by the first Black Ops and GTA IV. Struggling to keep 20,000 people to keep playing must feel great.

Have a public beta next time, would ya? Then maybe stuff like no descope and sprint always being on wouldn’t happen.

> Have a public beta next time, would ya? Then maybe stuff like no descope and sprint always being on wouldn’t happen.

I don’t see how a beta would have magically removed those features.

Use this thread instead.

https://forums.halowaypoint.com/yaf_postst183468_Daily-Halo-4-Population-Thread.aspx

I’m surprised Reach isnt on the list. Reach population is around 15-20k which is close if not just as much as Halo 4.

I think the downfall of Halo has to do with its ranking. Either go back to H2&3 with dynamic ranking(and H2 clan matches) or add a prestige/reset option if you(343) are going to copy every feature other shooters have.

> Congrats to 343 for a Halo game that ranks thirteenth on the live activity charts less than a year after release, being beaten by the first Black Ops and GTA IV. Struggling to keep 20,000 people to keep playing must feel great.
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> Have a public beta next time, would ya? Then maybe stuff like no descope and sprint always being on wouldn’t happen.

There are too many threads like this. I mean really, your going to complain about Halo 4 being so empty more than a year into it? Sure thing man.

If this was another game, I’d be inclined to agree with ya…

But this is halo, matchmaking isnt the only thing people should care about in a Halo game…

Most people just buy it for the campaign…

So stop denouncing halo 4 just because of matchmaking, that’s a close minded way of thinking…

Even if halo 4 had a public beta nothing would of change. Halo reach had a public beta and its one of the worst game ever created.

Halo 4 is pure garbage, 343 tried to make call of duty in space instead of halo 4 and look how it turned out.

> If this was another game, I’d be inclined to agree with ya…
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> But this is halo, matchmaking isnt the only thing people should care about in a Halo game…
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> Most people just buy it for the campaign…
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> So stop denouncing halo 4 just because of matchmaking, that’s a close minded way of thinking…

Campaign is what a large portion of players buy it for.

Matchmaking is what gets players to stay.

> Even if halo 4 had a public beta nothing would of change. Halo reach had a public beta and its one of the worst game ever created.

Nooo, really? You’re not, exaggerating or anything now?

that’s clearly wrong dude it says people still play gears 3 and black ops 1 is never more popular than mw2 when it was a downgrade from it

Remove personal ordinance, balance loadouts better, make AA’s map pickups (except sprint), make well designed maps for all this, add descope, and for the love of God upgrade the ranking system. 4’s is pathetic. Have a social and ranked.

And go Spielberg.

I want Halo to make a huge comeback in the years to come, how about everybody else?

> Even if halo 4 had a public beta nothing would of change. Halo reach had a public beta and its one of the worst game ever created.
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> Halo 4 is pure garbage, 343 tried to make call of duty in space instead of halo 4 and look how it turned out.

It’s ok I know how you feel, rarely is anything fun at first. Just hang in and keep practicing. You will start to get better and halo will become more fun I promise.

> It’s ok I know how you feel, rarely is anything fun at first. Just hang in and keep practicing. You will start to get better and halo will become more fun I promise.

HA HA! Please tell me that was your coy way of saying “Just because you suck at it doesn’t make Halo 4 a bad game.”

To the nay-sayers: As far matters of opinion go … why, if you hate Halo 4 and think Reach was even worse than that E.T. game on the Atari or Superman 64, are you on a Halo forum trashing the developers and insulting people’s tastes & interests? I don’t barge into a Red Lobster and announce “Shell fish is disgusting! You’re all stupid!”

You actually took the time to sign up for Waypoint and pick a little avatar just to say “I don’t like Halo.”

As far as copying other First Person Shooters … well, let’s see:
First person POV? Check
Gun on screen? Check
Grenades? Check
Enemies? Check
Objectives? Check
Can I invert pitch if I need to? Check

There.

> > It’s ok I know how you feel, rarely is anything fun at first. Just hang in and keep practicing. You will start to get better and halo will become more fun I promise.
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> HA HA! Please tell me that was your coy way of saying “Just because you suck at it doesn’t make Halo 4 a bad game.”
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> To the nay-sayers: As far matters of opinion go … why, if you hate Halo 4 and think Reach was even worse than that E.T. game on the Atari or Superman 64, are you on a Halo forum trashing the developers and insulting people’s tastes & interests? I don’t barge into a Red Lobster and announce “Shell fish is disgusting! You’re all stupid!”
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> You actually took the time to sign up for Waypoint and pick a little avatar just to say “I don’t like Halo.”
>
> As far as copying other First Person Shooters … well, let’s see:
> First person POV? Check
> Gun on screen? Check
> Grenades? Check
> Enemies? Check
> Objectives? Check
> Can I invert pitch if I need to? Check
>
> There.

This man has spoke the truth, if only Sammy realized that…

> > It’s ok I know how you feel, rarely is anything fun at first. Just hang in and keep practicing. You will start to get better and halo will become more fun I promise.
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> HA HA! Please tell me that was your coy way of saying “Just because you suck at it doesn’t make Halo 4 a bad game.”
>
> To the nay-sayers: As far matters of opinion go … why, if you hate Halo 4 and think Reach was even worse than that E.T. game on the Atari or Superman 64, are you on a Halo forum trashing the developers and insulting people’s tastes & interests? I don’t barge into a Red Lobster and announce “Shell fish is disgusting! You’re all stupid!”
>
> You actually took the time to sign up for Waypoint and pick a little avatar just to say “I don’t like Halo.”
>
> As far as copying other First Person Shooters … well, let’s see:
> First person POV? Check
> Gun on screen? Check
> Grenades? Check
> Enemies? Check
> Objectives? Check
> Can I invert pitch if I need to? Check
>
> There.

I love Halo, just want the devs to know we are disappointed with this game, if we don’t say something nothing will change. You too dense to realize that? Nobody on this forum hates Halo, guaranteed.

> Congrats to 343 for a Halo game that ranks thirteenth on the live activity charts less than a year after release, being beaten by the first Black Ops and GTA IV. <mark>Struggling to keep 20,000 people to keep playing must feel great</mark>.
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> Have a public beta next time, would ya? Then maybe stuff like no descope and sprint always being on wouldn’t happen.

OP, you are aware that the HaloCharts population counter only shows numbersfor War Games online matchmaking, right? And it doesn’t account for Campaign, Spartan Ops, Forge and Custom games?
The actual population is probably around double what that website states. Just as many people play other modes as well as online Matchmaking.

> we are disappointed with this game, if we don’t say something nothing will change.

That is a good point.

As for my density, it is roughly the same as most other humans.

> > It’s ok I know how you feel, rarely is anything fun at first. Just hang in and keep practicing. You will start to get better and halo will become more fun I promise.
>
> HA HA! Please tell me that was your coy way of saying “Just because you suck at it doesn’t make Halo 4 a bad game.”
>
> To the nay-sayers: As far matters of opinion go … why, if you hate Halo 4 and think Reach was even worse than that E.T. game on the Atari or Superman 64, are you on a Halo forum trashing the developers and insulting people’s tastes & interests? I don’t barge into a Red Lobster and announce “Shell fish is disgusting! You’re all stupid!”
>
> You actually took the time to sign up for Waypoint and pick a little avatar just to say “I don’t like Halo.”
>
> As far as copying other First Person Shooters … well, let’s see:
> First person POV? Check
> Gun on screen? Check
> Grenades? Check
> Enemies? Check
> Objectives? Check
> Can I invert pitch if I need to? Check
>
> There.

Aww man lol thats great. I wish I could thank you more than once for that one.

And yea you caught me.

Look, I understand that Halo 4 was not what we would expect out of a successful Halo game. I also understand many people are here, trying to make this game better by voicing their opinions and critiquing it. That’s what I try to do, and many other members here try to do.

This thread isn’t making the game better, it’s just a rant with no purpose. It’s not respectful or responsible, and how would a beta fix anything? Was Halo Reach a shining image of pure beauty? absolutely not. You’re not accomplishing anything with this thread, just trying to cause trouble.

I’m not thrilled with the way Halo 4 turned out compared to what it could’ve been, I’m one of many in this boat including the OP, but this thread is not how you handle it. It’s threads like this that makes it hard for “competitive” Halo to move forward.

Sidenote: Make sure you at least check a player’s stats before you try to question his ability at a game…

> > Even if halo 4 had a public beta nothing would of change. Halo reach had a public beta and its one of the worst game ever created.
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> Nooo, really? You’re not, exaggerating or anything now?

That’s what I think when people say the same about Halo 4 too.