Its important to express what we want from a Halo game but also what we don’t want. Call of duty recently implemented a free to play game mode called Warzone. Anyone who understands the gaming industry knows that this mode wasn’t made for fans (who would have bought the game anyway). Its simply a way for Activision to justify heavy monetization under the excuse that the game is free to play. Because Halo is also a massively popular shooter, 343 could (purely speculative) be tempted to implement some form of free to play feature for the same purpose of heavy monetization. This kind of feature could be very harmful to the franchise in the long term. Nothing suggests that 343 could be planning something like this but when we look at what other shooters do, its hard not to compare and fear the worst.
sadly the game is basically confirmed to have micro transactions (not loot boxes if that makes it any better) hopefully the leaks aren’t true ( don’t want my post to be taken down because i said a rumor) but i highly doubt that halo infinite will be free to play
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> sadly the game is basically confirmed to have micro transactions (not loot boxes if that makes it any better) hopefully the leaks aren’t true ( don’t want my post to be taken down because i said a rumor) but i highly doubt that halo infinite will be free to play
The game will have microtransactions for sure, but the degree to which they are implemented will matter. In a free to play context, 343 could go all in. There is no leak on the matter, its just a rumor. Well the game itself won’t be free to play that’s for sure, but they could separate the multiplayer or a specific game mode. I really hope my speculation is wrong because I want this game to be as good as it can.
I think a presented option (and probably best) for them is to make a system where players who buy the full game don’t deal with MTX while players who get the free version basically get all-out MTX. This is something I’ve thought of, nothing indicates thus far that this will be the case, but it’d be cool if this happened.
It would satisfy Halo players, satisfy outsiders who just wanted to try the game out because it’s free (spread exposure), and satisfy 343/Microsoft because they can make their fans happy, get MTX money, and maybe even sell more copies to people who buy the game because they figure they’d spend less with a one-time $60 instead of getting everything via MTX.
Again, there’s no proof this would happen, but I think it’d be the best option. I’m trying to stay optimistic about the whole MTX deal, although I’m not in denial of it’s existence in Infinite.
Also, it’s important to note that the Nerf AR code does suggest weapon skins exist, but it doesn’t suggest how we’ll get them.
Basically what you’re saying is you don’t want a Battle Royale in Halo Infinite and you don’t want microtransactions. Am I right?
Well that is a justified dread as Halo is part of the AAA it’s as much more susceptible to influence of easy money hungry higher ups.
And higher ups as in who have the initial money therefore having a say in the matter, not necessarily people who are part in the creation itself.
And easy money, as in cheap short-term methods that oppose building a fanbase for the brand and rather, are more the types like utilizing short timespan decision making, bright colors, behaviour supporting sounds, etc, to sell some extra product within a product. As in pretty much exploiting the features of a human mind & it’s interesting that such are currently allowed in products sold to minors where some content are banned alltogether in some countries.
And putting such “f2p” mode in already a fully-priced game has to be one of the cheapest things that can be implemented to, again, a fully-priced game.
And if paying customers aren’t careful on their spending decisions, some absolutely absurd money grabbing mechanics could become reality one day, in even bigger scale than they are now, something like the suggestion that one person made in a video (which was about meeting of sorts in a known company) that they could implement a mechanic where if a player runs out of ammo, the game would prompt a sell screen where it offers clips of ammo, for a sum of irl money.
It’s absolutely disgusting & anti-consumer way where microtransactions in general are leading. If paying customers let that happen that is.
There are far worse ways they can monetise the game. Just look at Gears 5, it’s a full priced retail game with drip fed content an egregious free to play in game economy. I would not like 343i to take the route TC have with Gears 5. If there was an option I would take the CoD Warzone set up over the Gears 5 set up anyday.
MW2019 MTX system isn’t all that bad actually…Sure, it could be a lot more player-friendly but people should keep in mind that we’re talking about items that are cosmetic-only and direkt purchase.
No take a look at H5’s random lootboxes and Warzone, which was pretty much designed to sell those lootboxes…I’d probably take MW’s sytem over H5s
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> MW2019 MTX system isn’t all that bad actually…Sure, it could be a lot more player-friendly but people should keep in mind that we’re talking about items that are cosmetic-only and direkt purchase.
> No take a look at H5’s random lootboxes and Warzone, which was pretty much designed to sell those lootboxes…I’d probably take MW’s sytem over H5s
i don’t want a battle pass either imo battle passes might be worse even if they are only cosmetic i don’t think they should be in infinite i don’t think grinding your way just to get that one item is fair if someone could just buy it in a few clicks
There are a lot of people who want a battle royale mode in Infinite (I definitely don’t), So the outcome really relies on 343’s opinion.
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> i don’t think grinding your way just to get that one item is fair if someone could just buy it in a few clicks
Isn’t this exactly what H5 did?
You could either pay a -Yoink- ton of money for REQ packs to get cosmetics (or straight up better gear…) or you invest a nasty amount of time…
I’m not a fan of CoDs battle pass either but I actually maxed the season one pass and almost maxed season two (I didn’t pay since I didn’t care for the stuff though) and it was much more enjoyable then H5 (or Gears 4, or even Reach which was just a boring grind IMO), well having a game that is fun did help a lot…
TBH if they had some better skins I’d even put down some money for some MTX, which would be a first for me…
Sure in a perfect world, we’d be getting free DLC and a H3-style cosmetic unlock system and so one, and so one but this isn’t a perfect world…
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> > i don’t think grinding your way just to get that one item is fair if someone could just buy it in a few clicks
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> Isn’t this exactly what H5 did?
> You could either pay a -Yoink- ton of money for REQ packs to get cosmetics (or straight up better gear…) or you invest a nasty amount of time…
> I’m not a fan of CoDs battle pass either but I actually maxed the season one pass and almost maxed season two (I didn’t pay since I didn’t care for the stuff though) and it was much more enjoyable then H5 (or Gears 4, or even Reach which was just a boring grind IMO), well having a game that is fun did help a lot…
> TBH if they had some better skins I’d even put down some money for some MTX, which would be a first for me…
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> Sure in a perfect world, we’d be getting free DLC and a H3-style cosmetic unlock system and so one, and so one but this isn’t a perfect world…
i guess so im hopping helmets to be achievement unlocks but… that’s most likely not the the case sadly i dunno i don’t think a battle pass fits in halo it just seems strange to have a battle pass in halo but in that case so are loot boxes
Unless there is a demo, I highly doubt 343 will make infinite free to play.
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> Basically what you’re saying is you don’t want a Battle Royale in Halo Infinite and you don’t want microtransactions. Am I right?
no hes saying he was giving an example of a free game. and as for microtransactions do u really want them back
Don’t worry about Activision and their “Call for Money: Recycled Warfare” games. I highly doubt 343 Industries is worried about them so neither should you.
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> Don’t worry about Activision and their “Call for Money: Recycled Warfare” games. I highly doubt 343 Industries is worried about them so neither should you.
This ^^^ preach it.
343 Can’t afford a lot of backlash with Infinite, this is supposed to be a fresh start. I’m sure they’re taking the right steps to make a great game.
I just dont want a Battle Royal mode. Req packs are tolerable over the Cod Warzone and carbon copies that are coming. Halo just needs to stick to what it’s good at and expand on it.
Ok, what I would do, if anything, is make map packs a thing again, as well as MAYBE have a set of armor being purchase. The Recon set could do nicely. We could have a DLC where we can buy the “Legendary Spartans” armor, pattern, FF voice, etc. Hey maybe we can get Halo Infinite to introduce us to the COG armor, marks 1, 2, and 3 from gears of war. 
Another thing we could have is a War Games Pass. Those who purchased the game get a code to play PVP matchmaking on that accound along with any other that is in its Xbox family, the others would have to settle for Firefight and non PVP. The reason this is fine with me is more because I’m not into PVP myself, so it wouldn’t bother me. I would be willing to use Gamepass.
Well at least the Original Bungie Halo’s are not COD, 343 seemed to try copying in Halo’s 4 and 5.
Anyone who thinks that Microsoft/343 hasn’t adjusted their strategy even slightly after seeing the success of Call of Duty’s Warzone isn’t recognizing that the video game industry is a business and people are in it to make money.
Microsoft/343 have spent a lot of time and money developing Infinite and they need a return on their investment. Infinite needs to be a console seller and successfull on the same level as fortnite - not just a niche arena FPS.