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> > > While I understand where this is coming from as I’m currently playing a mix of Halo MCC and fortnite I think it’s a lose-lose for them if they make a battle royale the old Halo fans will complain and not come back and if they make it old Halo we might not see any new players or new players will not join and we will be left with a small community either way they are bound to make someone upset…
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> > That’s not true for all players, I’m an old Halo fan and dropped Halo 5 after a few months, I stopped playing because every unlockable was tied to the rng loot system, and one or two other reasons. I want Battle Royale, I’ll agree some fans will not like it, but you can’t say for certain how many.
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> If Halo 5 was a good game people would still be playing it and not other games but Halo 5 just didn’t so it for a large number of Halo fans makes a entire game around a BR style would be a direct competitor of fortnite, I would suggest we get s little of everything and have a great Halo game and have a playlist that is a BR style or something aisimil to that not necessarily the entire game cater to that.
Definitely agree, Halo 5 is not a good Halo game imo. I also agree that an entire Halo game should not be dedicated to Battle Royale, however I did state that a Battle Royale MODE could be added as a DLC or included at launch in the post before yours. I think it would work well with assets Halo has to use. In fact, I believe Halo and Battle Royale would fit like the proverbial hand and glove. There will be players for and against. I just hope 343i have a change of heart.
No, it doesn’t. I admit that a BR mode would be an interesting addition to Halo Infinite (Black Ops 4’s BR mode proved that to me), but saying that it needs one to stay relevant and “keep new players hooked” is complete bogus.
One thing that I think everyone is forgetting is that we have FORGE! Single handedly the best map editor in any video games that I can think of. Have you ever tried forging in Halo 5 then tried making a base in Fallout 4? Don’t. You’ll just scar yourself. Forge is amazing! 343 should just give us the tools that we can make our own Battle Royal mode, so if we really want it we’ll make it. (And guess what, we already have! People have done it in Halo 5!)
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> One thing that I think everyone is forgetting is that we have FORGE! Single handedly the best map editor in any video games that I can think of. Have you ever tried forging in Halo 5 then tried making a base in Fallout 4? Don’t. You’ll just scar yourself. Forge is amazing! 343 should just give us the tools that we can make our own Battle Royal mode, so if we really want it we’ll make it. (And guess what, we already have! People have done it in Halo 5!)
It is but it isn’t. Forge is the best map editor for any console game that I am aware of, but definitely not for PC. Games that released over 10 years ago on PC have better map editors than Forge does today…i.e. Garry’s Mod, any Blizzard RTS game…
The problem with what you propose in them giving us the tools to create a Battle Royale mode in Forge lies in player counts. Part of what makes Battle Royale games (or modes in new games like BO4 or BF5) interesting are their massive player counts. Warzone is the highest player count game mode in Halo history at 24 players, and that still pales in comparison to Battlefield 5’s Battle Royale (which will have the smallest player count of the major BR games) at 64 players, and the highest player count for non-warzone game modes (meaning the highest player count for Forged maps/modes) is 16 which is even smaller.
That aside, I still don’t think Halo needs Battle Royale
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> I find it so much fun that I bought a CoD game for the first time since 2010, when the first Black Ops dropped. 343i could put the Halo spin on it, just like Treyarch worked their assets into Blackout. Halo and Battle Royale would work, if it’s done properly.
When you talk about putting a Halo spin on it, and doing it properly, what exactly do you have in mind?
I ask that, because personally while I’m not fundamentally opposed to the broad idea, I have a strong opinion about how it should not be handled. I wouldn’t want to see PUBG, or CoD Blackout, with Halo mechanics. I think putting players on an open, essentially upscaled BTB map, with the standard battle royale rules, like all battle royale games have done this far, would be a mediocre idea. For an FPS game, I think CoD is already doing it well. Perhaps some game could come and do it a bit differently, maybe with more realistic environment or more of a stealth focus or something, but I don’t think there’s much one can add without starting to mess with the—this far fundamental—rules of the genre. In particular, I don’t think Halo is the game that can improve on that. Furthermore, I think the unique gameplay style of Halo, particularly the focus on movement and the verticality, would go wasted on that kind of flat map design.
For the above reasons, I have no interest in Halo doing battle royale, unless it can do something completely unique with it. In particular, I think Halo’s strength lies in its long kill times and unique style of movement that beg for a completely different approach to map design from the tradition that PUBG established. So, as far as I’m concerned, that is the spin Halo would need to put on it to get me interested, to do it properly. And my greatest concern with 343i haphazardly jumping on the battle royale band wagon would be exactly that they would turn up with something very traditional.
So, after prefacing with what it means to me, I return to the question I started with: what does “Halo spin” and “doing it properly” mean to you?
I think Halo needs to focus more on their story because that’s the biggest issues they seem to be having. Whenever Halo focuses on multiplayer and tries to follow a trend they ultimately fail. Just look at how Halo 4 did with its multiplayer, while it was fun, it wasn’t enough to keep players engaged like Halo 3 or Reach. Plus Halo 5 multiplayer succeeded because it brought back some of the original Halo game types. Battle Royale is slowly dying off and Halo doesn’t need it to survive. Halo will succeed because it focuses more on its single player campaign/story and improving upon Halo 5s multiplayers.
IMO Halo needs to go classic to stay relevant. Not sure why new gamers insist other game companies follow trends and fads. Thats like having every chocolate bar taste the same but with different wrappers.
Following trends is what got 343 lost in the first place. They have yet to make a Halo that appeals to the masses of Halo fans. The sales and xbox live rank standings illustrate this.
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> > I find it so much fun that I bought a CoD game for the first time since 2010, when the first Black Ops dropped. 343i could put the Halo spin on it, just like Treyarch worked their assets into Blackout. Halo and Battle Royale would work, if it’s done properly.
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> When you talk about putting a Halo spin on it, and doing it properly, what exactly do you have in mind?
> I wouldn’t want to see PUBG, or CoD Blackout, with Halo mechanics.
I don’t want a PUBG or CoD clone with a Halo skin, I did state that earlier in this thread, or another. Blackout used zombies, existing maps and locations in a clever way.
I think 343i could do the same. They have so many fantastic maps that could make a good Battle Royale game imo. I can imagine fighting other players on maps like Valhalla, that map could have under ground levels like the library, or two different maps connected by Narrows. There could be flood levels like the one from Halo 3 with narrow close quarter fighting connecting areas, but with the added threat of the flood, maps being bombed.
We could have covenant ships dropping in enemies that add a threat too, how about ODST drop pods landing with ODST allies ? Enemey Scarabs that threaten all the players, do you attempt to take out the Scarab or go for the kills ? Halo would also have flying vehicles we could use to attack, Banshees, Hornets etc. Covenant ships glassing instead of circles closing in, I could go on with my ideas. Halo could have the best Battle Royale imo.
It would be a great little addition as a tacked-on game mode using assets and maps from more hopefully ambitious game modes it’ll ship with. It should never be a priority.
I hate battle royal and I hope they don’t add it, it will just ruin the entire concept of what Halo was. CoD and BF are two entirely different games as well, I feel BR does belong in BattlefField because it feels it belongs in that type of snadbox FPS.
I don’t think Halo needs a battle royal mode it be relevant. While I won’t say something like a BR could not be implemented, I agree with everyone saying it should be an after thought or added later. A smaller BR mode that appears later or at launch could work, but should not be the driving force of the game. Classic modes and campaign should be the focus.
Instead of a BR mode, lets get a BR scaled invasion mode of UNSC vs Promethean’s!! 100 players! 50 v 50! Make it like the original battlefront command posts modes!
I think BR will be a fad personally. Like zombies or ww2. H6 isn’t coming out for a while and so if they do add it they’re gonna be heavily criticized for not being creative enough and using an older mp game mode. I’d rather them come up a whole brand new mode that will become a big part of H6 and if fun enough other games would add it into their own games. I would be interested in seeing Halo’s vers. of BR but I don’t want it to be the main mp mode, especially if it replaces WZ. And Halo does have it’s own BR mode in a Halo way, WZ FF (if I remember correctly) and BTB.
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> Instead of a BR mode, lets get a BR scaled invasion mode of UNSC vs Promethean’s!! 100 players! 50 v 50! Make it like the original battlefront command posts modes!
Oh man, I totally forgot about invasion. A combo of invasion w/ some BR would be really interesting to see how it would come out.
Ok, how do I put this? Battle royale is not going to live past summer 2019. Anyone who thinks BR will stay relevant enough to put it in a Halo game that will either be the (not very likely) last title in the series or be the only one for three years until the next one, doesn’t have much foresight. Take a look at Black Ops 4, it sacrificed a campaign for a BR mode which ultimately fell flat on its face due to multiple bugs and performance issues. Most people reading this will most likely hate CoD with a passion, but some like myself are probably disheartened to see the series die from bad development choices. BR doesn’t seem to be a good gamemode choice for a game that will last for a few years. Look, I like playing BR games, I have quite a few PUBG games under my belt, but I just don’t see a BR mode surviving very long with a large enough playerbase.
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> Take a look at Black Ops 4, it sacrificed a campaign for a BR mode which ultimately fell flat on its face due to multiple bugs and performance issues. Most people reading this will most likely hate CoD with a passion, but some like myself are probably disheartened to see the series die from bad development choices.
“However, this takes nothing away from Call of Duty, which instantly rocketed to the top selling game of the year just solely based on its October performance. It seems, then, that Activision now has hard data to point to whenever anyone asks if Call of Duty games need a single-player campaign.” That’s from a Gameinformer article: https://www.gameinformer.com/2018/11/20/call-of-duty-edges-out-red-dead-redemption-ii-in-october-us-sales
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> Ok, how do I put this? Battle royale is not going to live past summer 2019. Anyone who thinks BR will stay relevant enough to put it in a Halo game that will either be the (not very likely) last title in the series or be the only one for three years until the next one, doesn’t have much foresight. Take a look at Black Ops 4, it sacrificed a campaign for a BR mode which ultimately fell flat on its face due to multiple bugs and performance issues. Most people reading this will most likely hate CoD with a passion, but some like myself are probably disheartened to see the series die from bad development choices. BR doesn’t seem to be a good gamemode choice for a game that will last for a few years. Look, I like playing BR games, I have quite a few PUBG games under my belt, but I just don’t see a BR mode surviving very long with a large enough playerbase.
Where are you getting this from ? CoD Battle Royale has not fallen flat on it’s face, whilst there is the odd sporadic glitch there is nothing game breaking, I play it daily without issue. You say you don’t see a BR game / mode surviving very long with a large enough player base, Fortnite has been around for 15 months and is still the most played game on Xbox Live, PUBG has been around for something like 20 months, and still has a decent amount of players despite it having numerous technical issues. Battle Royale is going nowhere anytime soon, CoD 4 just launched and it’s 2nd on Xbox Live most played here in the UK. Halo could have it’s own Battle Royale and be just as successful imo.
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> Ok, how do I put this? Battle royale is not going to live past summer 2019. Anyone who thinks BR will stay relevant enough to put it in a Halo game that will either be the (not very likely) last title in the series or be the only one for three years until the next one, doesn’t have much foresight. Take a look at Black Ops 4, it sacrificed a campaign for a BR mode which ultimately fell flat on its face due to multiple bugs and performance issues. Most people reading this will most likely hate CoD with a passion, but some like myself are probably disheartened to see the series die from bad development choices. BR doesn’t seem to be a good gamemode choice for a game that will last for a few years. Look, I like playing BR games, I have quite a few PUBG games under my belt, but I just don’t see a BR mode surviving very long with a large enough playerbase.
This.
I said something similar to this in my post but, whether BR is going to be just as popular down the road or not it’s not a smart idea to risk it’s success and long term playability of what may be The biggest Halo game ever.
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> > Ok, how do I put this? Battle royale is not going to live past summer 2019. Anyone who thinks BR will stay relevant enough to put it in a Halo game that will either be the (not very likely) last title in the series or be the only one for three years until the next one, doesn’t have much foresight. Take a look at Black Ops 4, it sacrificed a campaign for a BR mode which ultimately fell flat on its face due to multiple bugs and performance issues. Most people reading this will most likely hate CoD with a passion, but some like myself are probably disheartened to see the series die from bad development choices. BR doesn’t seem to be a good gamemode choice for a game that will last for a few years. Look, I like playing BR games, I have quite a few PUBG games under my belt, but I just don’t see a BR mode surviving very long with a large enough playerbase.
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> Where are you getting this from ? CoD Battle Royale has not fallen flat on it’s face, whilst there is the odd sporadic glitch there is nothing game breaking, I play it daily without issue. You say you don’t see a BR game / mode surviving very long with a large enough player base, Fortnite has been around for 15 months and is still the most played game on Xbox Live, PUBG has been around for something like 20 months, and still has a decent amount of players despite it having numerous technical issues. Battle Royale is going nowhere anytime soon, CoD 4 just launched and it’s 2nd on Xbox Live most played here in the UK. Halo could have it’s own Battle Royale and be just as successful imo.
Really? It hasn’t fell flat on its face? It lost plenty of players in the first week because of massive lag spikes, the fact that performance was REDUCED from the beta and the fact that it crashed constantly for lots of people. If that isn’t falling flat on its face, then what is it? And what I meant was it wouldn’t have a large enough playerbase in a few years, I mean, the BR market is already becoming over saturated and Halo having it for a few years until the next one isn’t a great idea. CoD can get rid of it next year. Halong can’t.
a battle royale is something totally unnecessary, I think it would be more appropriate a game mode with many players with vehicles like scarabs by the map