Halo Infinite needs Battle Royal to stay Relevant

Games Halo Infinite
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I would call it a fad actually. I mean, it’s the same thing that happened when DOTA2 and LOL became popular. We basically only had hero based games for three years or so. Before that it was Minecraft and survival games and after all this it was asymmetrical MP games. now the hot thing is PUBG and Fortnight! So yeah, it is a phase and the only reason why BOIV did it, it’s because right now it sells.

(S_orry, it’s BO IIII!!! damn I hate that title. In Italy we have the term “bimbominkia” to describe kids and posers that write like that. My mind always goes there when I see it._)

Sometimes a bunch of games will survive the hype phase and stay relevant a long time after the fact (LOL, Overwatch, Minecraft, I’m sure PUBG will be the next one), the clones however die out. With all the server and MT issues COD seems to have right now, I’m not sure it will stay relevant. If Halo would have done the same, and that even further down the line - release date is still far of - it would’ve zero chances to become popular. The IP is not as relevant as CoD anymore, so it can’t risk to follow old trends like the competition did.

That said, and I repeating an old comment of mine here, the mode would be perfect for Halo! Think about it: orbital drops as spawns, open spaces, Halo sandbox and vehicles, Covis and Flood as AI enemies on the field, Phantoms dropping bombs and goodies on the field, giant UNSC space ships entering the atmosphere and moving props, players and bodies around just by pressure force and all this while the is getting glassed from space or by giant Scarabes outside of the playing field. Tell me it doesn’t sound awesome!

However, a mode like this would be expensive to make and resources in development are limited sadly. Not to mention 343i has to prove me they can make a good Halo game before that first and foremost. Sorry, but everything I liked about Halo in the last seven years or so was made by someone else (SPV3, H2A and HW2 if you’re curious), that’s not a good sign! Therefore I’m actually happy they’re not wasting time with BR modes.

Even if the cynic in me believes 343i is not doing it for the reasons mentioned prior to this and not because they won’t follow trends again… Let’s see! :upside_down_face:

They should give us the option to make a mode like that in forge though. I’ve seen similar concepts since Reach anyway, so it’s not even new. If it gets popular down the browser road sure, develope a full blown out mode over a year after release or so.

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Halo has been known for its excellent campaigns, and except for Halo 5, I think that all of them have delivered exceptionally well. Why is this relevant? Well, Call of Duty scratched a fourth Black Ops campaign to jump on the Battle Royale trend, and probably to reduce the size of the game as well (who wants a Halo game to take up 140 GB of storage?). Also, competitive and social Arena modes have been a staple in the Halo series since 2001, and I would hate to see it replaced with Battle Royale.

I feel like the presence of a Battle Royale mode would come at the cost of sub-par campaign and multiplayer or one of the two entirely. I have nothing against Battle Royale, but Halo does not need it as much as it needs a solid campaign and a quality multiplayer.

With all of this stated, if the community wants to create a BR mode for the Customs Browser, I’m down for it, and I would even welcome a rotational BR playlist in social matchmaking. However, 343i needs to understand, and I think they do (see spoiler), that the campaign and the core multiplayer are much more important.

“The only BR we’re interested in is the Battle Rifle.” Haha so bad–Yoink-.

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> Halo isn’t held back by nostalgia lol. Try it’s failure to do anything new and offering something unique, some BR mode won’t do that when it’s just going to end up being an oversaturated market, taking away BRs popularity as it thins out between franchises, effectively ending the trend it has started.
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> I don’t mind it being a tacked on mode, but it shouldn’t be prioritized nor will it keep it relevant, how will it stay relevant once BR loses popularity? All you did was trend chase something that was popular and once it’s not popular you go back to being irrelevant because you’re not doing your own thing.
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> “CoD and battlefield are doing it” and has it proven it’s working? It’s not even out yet and people have issues with them. CoD threw away a campaign for it, :+1: great way to piss people off. What will Halo sacrifice for it if they choose to add it?

I agree with this statement.

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I love Halo and I love BRs but I don’t want to see them mix. OP was right that every other FPS is throwing one in and that’s exactly why I don’t want it. If everyone does the same thing it ceases to be special or fun and just becomes more white noise. I would much rather them take a chance with some new game mode that everyone else will try to copy. They need to do something that makes Halo stand out not become more of the same. I want more innovation and less imitation.

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I feel like halo doesn’t need a battle royal mode because its a trend and all trends will die out.

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I’m not going to be totally against them doing it. But they don’t need to advertise it.

343 needs to be trend setters in the industry, not trend followers. They need their own big idea.

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…it’s griff ball

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I don’t see any good coming from adding a BR to Halo. The reason it’s so popular with PUBG and Fortnite is because it works with the playstyles of those games. Halo just isn’t a game with that kind of style; BR would feel largely out of place. I mean, why would we ever need a Hunger Games game style in a game that largely depends on team work due to its large platter of team based playlists?

Also, at what point did we enter an era of gaming where everyone’s thought is ‘wow, this game made THIS popular; every other game I like should copy this or else it’s irrelevant and will just die out because it holds itself back instead of copying everyone else’? I thought the idea of having so many different publishers was to add diversity? What’s so diverse about adding a game style to literally every game out there?

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I’m bad enough at halo as it is, I really don’t need another way to suck at halo.

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No, we don’t need to copy:
Fortnite
PUBG
COD
Battlefield

Halo needs to stay the same, just be itself.

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I can’t see how this gametype would fit into Halo, since multiplayer is supposed to be canon now. In what situation are Spartans ever going to be dropped in an area without a weapon?

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Halo tried to have a sort of super large battle royal type of thing with Warzone. It’s true that Halo is basically a nostalgia product at this point. It needs to be sure to not get too far away from that. Bringing in new game modes is fine, but that could dilute the experience. If Halo wants a new crowd though, they need to make all the other games and expanded universe material irreverent. Make it so that someone playing has no need for any of the old stories, and change the gameplay in a new way that isn’t a copy of anything else on the market. I thought they might do this in halo 4. Have chief wake up to a universe that had forgotten him, the covenant war, and all the old weapons and tech. Drop him into a brand new unrelated story and kick start a whole new universe so to speak. They could have woken him up hundreds of years later on and given us something entirely new. But that’s really really risky. I don’t think a battle royal mode will really bring anyone in, and I don’t it would push anyone away, so yeah sure put it in if it can be made to fit well.

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If people want BR, dont bring it to Halo. Go play a BR game.

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Love the idea of 100 players, but not typical BR. More like a narrative driven massive co-op mission would be very cool. The map is as big or bigger than PUBG, and there are various key locations that need to be captured from Covenant forces in order to win. But timing is critical so you can’t just have 100 players rush one location and move to the next.

Imagine seeing the map overlay, you and your team along with other random players just won a good sized battle, but then you see that the battle isn’t going so well a few miles away. So you hop in a warthog and become the reinforcement and show up just in time to turn the tide of the battle for some other players that were having a tough time.

But you can’t be in too many places at once so you have to think about where to go to be effective. Others will lose key positions (no respawns) and eventually the remaining players are going to have to convene on the truly challenging battles to win the game.

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> Halo tried to have a sort of super large battle royal type of thing with Warzone. It’s true that Halo is basically a nostalgia product at this point. It needs to be sure to not get too far away from that. Bringing in new game modes is fine, but that could dilute the experience. If Halo wants a new crowd though, they need to make all the other games and expanded universe material irreverent. Make it so that someone playing has no need for any of the old stories, and change the gameplay in a new way that isn’t a copy of anything else on the market. I thought they might do this in halo 4. Have chief wake up to a universe that had forgotten him, the covenant war, and all the old weapons and tech. Drop him into a brand new unrelated story and kick start a whole new universe so to speak. They could have woken him up hundreds of years later on and given us something entirely new. But that’s really really risky. I don’t think a battle royal mode will really bring anyone in, and I don’t it would push anyone away, so yeah sure put it in if it can be made to fit well.

Now THAT is an interesting idea; having Chief wake up 50 years? 100 years? 1,000 years? later to a universe that barely even remembers the whispers on the wind of his triumphs and legendary status? New wars that have gone on for so long most don’t even remember when the fighting started and only could hope some generation would be able to celebrate its end; to have an old Hero step up to the battle and bring a fleeting moment of peace to these new stars.

Cortana would have long since perished; her rampancy would have caused a complete crash and she would have shut down, he’d have been all alone in a new Universe that barely remembered he even existed. On the bright side, he’d be able to start a whole new life…in a sense.

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> If people want BR, dont bring it to Halo. Go play a BR game.

That’s what I’m doing, and others are too. However, that does not benefit Halo. I think Halo Infinite is a long way off, Xmas 2019 is the earliest, but imo, I don’t see it dropping until Xmas 2020. I also think an opportunity has been missed by 343i AND Microsoft. I think a Halo Battle Royale game would have been an excellent filler between Halo 5 and Halo Infinite.

I still think Halo Infinite should have a Battle Royale mode, either at launch, or as a DLC at a later date. Despite 343i saying it won’t happen, I believe we’ll see it, or something like it in the future. Battle Royale is not going away anytime soon. I was not always a fan either, PUBG is terrible on consoles, and it’s boring at times, Fortnite is fortfight, the building ruins it imo. CoD Blackout ? Is excellent imo.

I find it so much fun that I bought a CoD game for the first time since 2010, when the first Black Ops dropped. 343i could put the Halo spin on it, just like Treyarch worked their assets into Blackout. Halo and Battle Royale would work, if it’s done properly.

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While I understand where this is coming from as I’m currently playing a mix of Halo MCC and fortnite I think it’s a lose-lose for them if they make a battle royale the old Halo fans will complain and not come back and if they make it old Halo we might not see any new players or new players will not join and we will be left with a small community either way they are bound to make someone upset…

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> While I understand where this is coming from as I’m currently playing a mix of Halo MCC and fortnite I think it’s a lose-lose for them if they make a battle royale the old Halo fans will complain and not come back and if they make it old Halo we might not see any new players or new players will not join and we will be left with a small community either way they are bound to make someone upset…

That’s not true for all players, I’m an old Halo fan and dropped Halo 5 after a few months, I stopped playing because every unlockable was tied to the rng loot system, and one or two other reasons. I want Battle Royale, I’ll agree some fans will not like it, but you can’t say for certain how many.

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> > While I understand where this is coming from as I’m currently playing a mix of Halo MCC and fortnite I think it’s a lose-lose for them if they make a battle royale the old Halo fans will complain and not come back and if they make it old Halo we might not see any new players or new players will not join and we will be left with a small community either way they are bound to make someone upset…
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> That’s not true for all players, I’m an old Halo fan and dropped Halo 5 after a few months, I stopped playing because every unlockable was tied to the rng loot system, and one or two other reasons. I want Battle Royale, I’ll agree some fans will not like it, but you can’t say for certain how many.

If Halo 5 was a good game people would still be playing it and not other games but Halo 5 just didn’t so it for a large number of Halo fans makes a entire game around a BR style would be a direct competitor of fortnite, I would suggest we get s little of everything and have a great Halo game and have a playlist that is a BR style or something aisimil to that not necessarily the entire game cater to that.

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no to many game have BR