Halo Infinite needs Battle Royal to stay Relevant

The only BR 343 is interested in is Battle Rifle. They said it themselves. Frankly, I agree.

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> The only BR 343 is interested in is Battle Rifle. They said it themselves. Frankly, I agree.

Agreed. Thank you!

This is Xbox’s #1 franchise. I hate sound elitist on its behalf, but Halo is better than caving into the “flavor of the year” or what’s hot right now. Battle Royale game type has no business in this franchise.

god its like all games needs BR now please let it die and move on games do great without them and halo is one of them i mean i wouldnt mind if they did but its like every AAA title needs one now

Mention Battle Royale and get over 600 comments. I think way too many people put their word in…

According to 343 Industries (Correct me if I am wrong) Tyler “Postums” Davis, Halo will not launch with a Battle Royale mode. However, you may build one yourself in Forge Mode. That is the official word from 343 Industries. If you want to have Battle Royale, by all means, make one. But 343 Industries has too much on their plate already. I would rather them focus on the campaign than the multiplayer. Halo 5: Guardian’s multiplayer was fine. Maybe not the best, but it is a decent one. Let the community handle it. If we make it, there is no problem. But both PUBG and Fortnite have added bots due to the decreasing player counts. Battle Royale is becoming less relevant than before.

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> Did your opinion changed after 2 years of seeing where the industry is today? Do you think still Halo needs/doesn’t needs BR to stay relevant? For me, I still think they do after seeing the popularity & interest in BR even today and that it will continue for years to come.

No, my opinion has not changed.
Halo does not need BR to stay relevant.
For every succesful BR game/mode, there’s probably two or three BR games/ modes no one talks about. Heck, I’m unsure if CSGO implemented one, I think it got one, and I’ve seen no one talk about it. Battlefield 5? I don’t see any talk about that either. Is BF5 even popular?

Let’s take Duke Nukem Forever, the game that could’ve been Doom 2016. It did what everyone else did in terms of gameplay, and it did so extremely poorly. Even ignoring all the technical issues, the gameplay was poor and uninspiring, it, along with Halo 4 remain top examples in my book of games, doing what everyone else does for no other reason than to have it, and failing. They didn’t stay relevant.
How did Halo 4, with default sprint, flinch, custom loadouts, “point rewards (kill streaks)”, grenade indicators, abilities and so forth, not stay relevant?

A game being relevant is not about doing what others do, it’s that your own stuff is done extremely well. CoD managed to make an appealing BR mode, others haven’t.
LoL and DotA are still relevant games despite the numerous MOBAs after them, because what they do, they do extremely well. Overwatch is still the “king of hero shooters”.

I’m fairly certain i343 have a far better chance of making Halo “relevant”, by making Halo Infinite the best it can be without a BR, instead of making a BR mode for it. Because there’s a lot of issues with the older games which i343 should learn from, and improve for Halo infinite.
Warzone was wasted potential due to REQs, it has a lot of room for improvement, and I mean, a lot.
Ditching Firefight was a huge mistake, as that has replayability, and there’s room for a lot of fun stuff there.
Spartan Ops is an interesting concept that needed refining and could’ve gone far.
Leaving out numerous game modes, barely making any new ones as well.
Theatre left to its own demise, because the xbox has its own record function, that pissed me off a lot because the theatre is an excellent editing tool.
Split screen is thankfully coming back.

If there has to be a BR, make it stand-alone, and they can play to many of Halo’s strengths in terms of what’s done in the lore, truly make an interesting BR game, not tied to the gameplay of Infinite, not siphoning resources from other parts of Infinite needed there.

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> > The only BR 343 is interested in is Battle Rifle. They said it themselves. Frankly, I agree.
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> Agreed. Thank you!
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> This is Xbox’s #1 franchise. I hate sound elitist on its behalf, but Halo is better than caving into the “flavor of the year” or what’s hot right now. Battle Royale game type has no business in this franchise.

“Flavor of the past 5 years” FTFY

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> It has been 2 years since the question was asked if BR is required for Halo to stay relevant.
> - Activision Blizzard released Call of Duty Warzone, EA released Battlefield 5 Battle Royal, Apex legend is doing great - Ubisoft released Hyper Scape Tech test today - Fortnite is still the king the BR - PUBG still maintains top 3 most played game on Steam chart - CoD Warzone & Fortnite remains the most played game on XboxDid your opinion changed after 2 years of seeing where the industry is today? Do you think still Halo needs/doesn’t needs BR to stay relevant? For me, I still think they do after seeing the popularity & interest in BR even today and that it will continue for years to come.

I agree, BR gets such a weird hipster hate and i don’t get it, if it were as trendy as so many say here, the genre would be dead by now. Nailing a highly competitive multiplayer and putting Halo back on the main stage of esports should be priority #1 before the BR however.

Battle rifle is the only BR Halo will ever need.

343i said no and i couldn’t be more happy. God i just cannot stand BR game modes. ugh so over it. Halo is an arena shooter and that’s what fans love and that should always be its focus. BR mode would just take away dev time from more popular modes. Lets face it Halo is still around because it has a large fan base who know what they want. Attracting new players because of a BR mode will end up with a bunch of people wanting halo to be something its never been. Stay away plz lol

I’m happy with Halo not having a Battle Royale mode. While I enjoy the gameplay for it, Halo mechanically does not lend itself well to that playstyle, and I can only see it causing the series harm if they tried to implement it, since that would take development time away from the single player story (which the series is founded on) as well as development on the core multiplayer experience of Halo being an arena shooter.

If they decide to add one some time post-launch, sure, go for it, but Halo as a whole does not need it to remain relevant.

this is a big NO.

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> Halo Infinite needs Battle Royal mode to stay relevant & retain multiplayer player count. BR is not a fade, it will be one of expected mode to successful FPS going forward, even Call of Duty & Battlefield are implementing their own version of BR. Fortnite, as worldwide sensation is becoming one of first FPS they played for lot of audience, not to mention PUBG. That audience will eventually look for other similar games, CoD & BF is doing just that. If Halo does not have BR, they loss the opportunity to bring part of that huge & growing audience, which will be hard to ignore. Halo has a great opportunity to bring futuristic BR mode which no AAA game currently offers.
> One of main problems I see in Halo today is that it is held back by huge baggage of nostalgia, those modes that no longer is relevant & trying to appeal to older generation that no longer plays the game. Grief ball & addition of jet pack is prime example of this. Grief ball which community demanded to be added, which no one plays anyway & jetpack & dash that players hated, which turned out to be great addition to the game. If the game tries to appeal to the old & ignore the upcoming players, it will ultimately fail to capture enough audience to stay relevant.
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> Update: 7/2/2020It has been 2 years since the question was asked if BR is required for Halo to stay relevant.
> - Activision Blizzard released Call of Duty Warzone, EA released Battlefield 5 Battle Royal, Apex legend is doing great - Ubisoft released Hyper Scape Tech test today - Fortnite is still the king the BR - PUBG still maintains top 3 most played game on Steam chart - CoD Warzone & Fortnite remains the most played game on XboxDid your opinion changed after 2 years of seeing where the industry is today? Do you think still Halo needs/doesn’t needs BR to stay relevant? For me, I still think they do after seeing the popularity & interest in BR even today and that it will continue for years to come.

i dont think its required but it would make it more relevant. if im honest i hope if they do do it they put there on spin on things instead of just being a generic br like how cod has the gulag

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> > The only BR 343 is interested in is Battle Rifle. They said it themselves. Frankly, I agree.
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> Agreed. Thank you!
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> This is Xbox’s #1 franchise. I hate sound elitist on its behalf, but Halo is better than caving into the “flavor of the year” or what’s hot right now. Battle Royale game type has no business in this franchise.

I think Battle Royals could work well in the Halo franchise, but not right now. We need Infinite to be the best “Halo” game it can be right now, not copy other games like Call of Duty, Battle Royals, etc.

I’m okay with a battle royal as long as Halo Infinite is a good game at launch, and that they add the BR post launch.

I want 343 to focus as much as possible on making this game timeless, I think the enemy of that focus is working on trendy gameplay mechanics that only last a few months to a year. We need Infinite to be fun for all players, and not just built around one big BR, the BR needs to be built around Infinite’s machanics and our feedback.

If the BR is added post launch it will give 343 time to not only take in our feedback, but also take there time on developing a good BR mode that offers a unique experience, as opposed to many of the other carbon copy BR’s out there.

Before launch they can focus on halo’s core gameplay and modes, and after it launchs they can add trendy gameplay modes because they made an objectively complete game that doesn’t need to be completed after launch.

I think Halo Infinite will have a unique battle royal gamemode, but that’s an important word: “gamemode”, because i don’t think it’ll be a separate game (like Warzone in Modern Warfare). Halo’s forge features give players lots of creative options, and personally i hope we have get the tools to make anything (including a BR gamemode if we wish). Thus, there would be nothing stopping the devs from making an official BR gamemode to make it easy for players to jump in (pun intended).

I have no problem with this, as long as they make a unique (actually fun) BR gamemode tailored for Halo’s mechanics. To me it’s not that different from an FFA variant (like infection).

My requests:

  • Make the game fun to play without overshields. A major frustration of mine is getting the drop on an enemy in BR just for them to run away after i unload a full mag into them. - Make the gamemode have multiple rounds of short duration. Long rounds slow down the pace of the game too much, and that’s not Halo. If the duration is short, then skill could be determined over multiple rounds. This would probably also require smaller (compared to other BRs) maps and smaller player counts (probably 32), but i see that as a win. - Have many maps with varying levels of openness, verticality, etc. In many BRs, certain weapons are useless because of the map layout (shotguns in an open field for example). Also, on maps with verticality (Sword Base comes to mind), the “circle” could close vertically as well. This would probably mean pre-determined “hills”, which sounds good to me. - Keep Halo’s focus on the sandbox. Place close-range weapons near a tight paths, and snipers on towers (as they always have been), and encourage players to adapt to their environment (not get attached to their weapons, with a bunch of attachments). - Eliminate randomness. Players familiar with the maps should know where power weapons spawn (and when), and decide if they want to compete for those weapons. This reminds me of the rocket launcher on The Pit. - Don’t do weapon tiers/rarities. I don’t want a golden sniper that does more damage. I want all sniper rifles to be default, with an appropriate balance of pros/cons for the sandbox. - Do drop pods that all hit the ground and open at the same time. I don’t like other BR games, where it becomes a race to the ground. Likewise, players should be able to choose anywhere to drop on the map (maybe with some restrictions or zoning) and not be dependent on a flight path. - Everybody starts with an AR (and/or Magnum) and one or two frags. A spartan dropping into a warzone unarmed is laughable and also makes the game a race for the first gun. However, players shouldn’t start with long-range (BR/DMR) or power weapons either, because then players don’t really need to compete for power weapons. The starting weapons could change, depending on the map (or gamemode variant), but i think AR+Magnum+2Frags is a classic/well-rounded start. - Use your imagination :)I think it’s possible to have a fun BR gamemode in Halo Infinite. Of course, they should focus resources on the classic gamemodes (and campaign) before branching out into trendy territory.

Um… What? Battle Royale is just a fad. Halo does not need fad trends to stay relevant because it’s Halo. Unlike COD, people play Halo because it’s different. Because it’s Halo. If Halo were to follow what other games are doing, it would lose it’s identity along with all the other games that tried and failed (like Battlefield V). If you are looking for Battle Royale, you are free to make a free-for-all match in Forge to play with some friends, but it’s highly unlikely that Halo will have battle royale.

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> Halo Infinite needs Battle Royal mode to stay relevant & retain multiplayer player count. BR is not a fade, it will be one of expected mode to successful FPS going forward, even Call of Duty & Battlefield are implementing their own version of BR. Fortnite, as worldwide sensation is becoming one of first FPS they played for lot of audience, not to mention PUBG. That audience will eventually look for other similar games, CoD & BF is doing just that. If Halo does not have BR, they loss the opportunity to bring part of that huge & growing audience, which will be hard to ignore. Halo has a great opportunity to bring futuristic BR mode which no AAA game currently offers.
> One of main problems I see in Halo today is that it is held back by huge baggage of nostalgia, those modes that no longer is relevant & trying to appeal to older generation that no longer plays the game. Grief ball & addition of jet pack is prime example of this. Grief ball which community demanded to be added, which no one plays anyway & jetpack & dash that players hated, which turned out to be great addition to the game. If the game tries to appeal to the old & ignore the upcoming players, it will ultimately fail to capture enough audience to stay relevant.
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> Update: 7/2/2020It has been 2 years since the question was asked if BR is required for Halo to stay relevant.
> - Activision Blizzard released Call of Duty Warzone, EA released Battlefield 5 Battle Royal, Apex legend is doing great - Ubisoft released Hyper Scape Tech test today - Fortnite is still the king the BR - PUBG still maintains top 3 most played game on Steam chart - CoD Warzone & Fortnite remains the most played game on XboxDid your opinion changed after 2 years of seeing where the industry is today? Do you think still Halo needs/doesn’t needs BR to stay relevant? For me, I still think they do after seeing the popularity & interest in BR even today and that it will continue for years to come.

Technically Halo does not need a battle royale to stay relevent. The functions of Forge and custom games and the pure imagination of forgers make this possible already. In Halo 5 custom games there is a battle royale custom map and mode. Ever since Halo has made Invasion, firefight, and infection. Population for the games has skyrocketed and stays relevant even through all the games and competition over the 19 years of being around.

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> Um… What? Battle Royale is just a fad. Halo does not need fad trends to stay relevant because it’s Halo. Unlike COD, people play Halo because it’s different. Because it’s Halo. If Halo were to follow what other games are doing, it would lose it’s identity along with all the other games that tried and failed (like Battlefield V). If you are looking for Battle Royale, you are free to make a free-for-all match in Forge to play with some friends, but it’s highly unlikely that Halo will have battle royale.

If it’s just a fad why has it been around for half a decade+ now? There are so many avenues to explore with the genre, Halo should do it. Anyone who thinks BR is still just a fad is a delusional hipster.

Hard disagree even today. Halo is able to capture its niche and be a system seller both for Xbox and more recently Windows, and slapping in yet another battle royale gamemode that takes away dev time and resources from the things people go to Halo for like its campaign and arena MP in an already oversaturated market for that type of game/mode is just not a good idea.

No a br will just ruin it and wouldn’t even work out u can’t compare it to games that are nowhere near simple
And br are just very limited take fortnite as an example its been 3 years and is starting to die not really long halo has done better than that well at least longer
Also it’s not even held back by nostalgia where were u even going with that