Halo Infinite needs Battle Royal to stay Relevant

Games Halo Infinite
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> > > > > > > > > Haven’t checked this thread in a while, but super glad to see that the vast majority of people here don’t want to see a battle royal mode in infinite :grin:
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> > > > > > > > > This said, I think a decent amount of people would be ok with a stand alone battle royal game though (a free to play one for example)
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> > > > > > > > > The recent interview that Frank O’Connor gave in response to all the Battle Royal talk still left me a little concerned. He keep saying things along the lines of “As of now we aren’t” I truly hope 343I doesn’t do something dumb and add it at a later date to Infinite or something. Just keep things separate.
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> > > > > > > > If they did, their spin on it would be much better than it’s predecessors. Imagine being an ODST squad dropping into a ring and you have to evade hostile covenant and hostile ODST teams in order to get to your Pelican for extraction.
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> > > > > > > I agree. An ODST drop would be amazing. If you actually read into the Interview with Frank o Connor, he never said no to Battle Royale. He was riding the edge of the question. We won’t drop to an Island from a Battle Bus. That was clear as day, but he never gives out the straight answer of No.
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> > > > > > > My hopes are high. If you don’t like Battle Royale, don’t play it. Halo Infinite will be on PC and Xbox One. It will be on Gamepass. The population of Halo Infinite will be higher than any other Halo just by this fact. I bought Black Ops 4 just for the Blackout. Im absolutely sure people will buy Halo Infinite for a Battle Royale, and if they don’t like it, they will play arena with everyone else.
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> > > > > > > Halo should have the current trends to gather more community members. New gamers are added to the pool all the time. You cannot expect a community to grow with the same people. You cannot expect everyone to have played all the Halos.
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> > > > > > > Im not arguing with you. Im just stating onto this. Lol
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> > > > > > Frankie actually did gave a pretty clear no to BR in H:I, but whatever floats your goat dude.
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> > > > > > I mean, it isn’t to me to be the one telling you or other people hoping for BR, that you’re being delusional about this but
> > > > > > […]No. We are NOT doing this as of now–and no plans to–[…] is as simple and as straight as a statement can be.
> > > > > > H:I won’t have BR and that’s a fact, you guys can twist it and turn it and wish for it as much as you want but if you’re,
> > > > > > after that recent linked statement and the statement from last year, still not convinced and still expect BR to be there,
> > > > > > you will be dissapointed.
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> > > > > *…we interested in big social modes with loads of organic shenanigans? Yes. Specifically A blimp full of survivors heading to an Island after a (metaphorical) lecture from Beat Takeshi? No. We are NOT doing this as of now…*You know how you answer a Yes or No question? With a simple Yes or No.
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> > > > > Spartans coming out of a bus? No
> > > > > A pelican? Yes.
> > > > > I like to keep an open mind.
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> > > > This can (apparently) be interpreted in different ways, but I think that he’s saying no to Battle Royale. (Also whenever he says “No. We are NOT doing this as of now…” he’s driving home the point that they aren’t doing BR, not that they aren’t flying players in a blimp to an island"). “Big social modes with loads of organic shenanigans” can mean many different things. This could easily mean BTB, Infection, etc. And this isn’t the only time he’s gotten across that they aren’t doing BR. Look back to all the other times they said no. Like how the only BR they’re interested in is a Battle Rifle. After he said that this argument of whether or not it will have BR should’ve been over.
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> > > > If anyone wants a Halo BR then go to MCC, forge a map, and play it on elimination. It’s that simple, and you’d get a better experience out of that than any BR at this point in time.
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> > > If a Battle Royale mode on MCC was so grand, I wouldn’t have ditched playing Halo in general to play Blackout on Call of Duty. Comparing 100 players per match to 16 is bizzare. Thats like comparing Battlefields Conquest to BTB territories. They are not relative or remotely similiar in terms of gameplay.
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> > 343 and O’Connor have stated multiple times that they jave no interest in BR, and that to focus on such a ephemeral trend would be arbitrarily hurtful to the integrity of the franchise as a whole.
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> That is not an accurate statement at all. I watched a recent interview with Bonnie Ross, and she said nothing of the sort. In fact, she stated that Battle Royale is talked about a lot in the studio, she also said she was impressed with Apex and what Respawn have achieved. I’m not sure we’ll see a Battle Royale with Halo Infinite, but the studio has got an interest in the genre, and I think we’ll see it at some point.

I wouldn’t say it’s inaccurate

Seems odd why it’s talked about when Frankie has said they don’t even have plans for it (I mean, why talk about it when you’ll do nothing with it to begin with?).

http://amp.denofgeek.com/us/games/halo/280695/halo-infinite-launch-battle-royale-modeIf Bonnie is saying that it contradicts her own employees 🤷 which is just a turn off to me as it means upper management and the devs aren’t actually on the same page when one group says this and the other that.

That said who knows, maybe 343 is just wanting to keep BR quiet until launch, devs hide things all the time.

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> > > > > > > > > > Haven’t checked this thread in a while, but super glad to see that the vast majority of people here don’t want to see a battle royal mode in infinite :grin:
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> > > > > > > > > > This said, I think a decent amount of people would be ok with a stand alone battle royal game though (a free to play one for example)
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> > > > > > > > > > The recent interview that Frank O’Connor gave in response to all the Battle Royal talk still left me a little concerned. He keep saying things along the lines of “As of now we aren’t” I truly hope 343I doesn’t do something dumb and add it at a later date to Infinite or something. Just keep things separate.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > If they did, their spin on it would be much better than it’s predecessors. Imagine being an ODST squad dropping into a ring and you have to evade hostile covenant and hostile ODST teams in order to get to your Pelican for extraction.
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> > > > > > > > I agree. An ODST drop would be amazing. If you actually read into the Interview with Frank o Connor, he never said no to Battle Royale. He was riding the edge of the question. We won’t drop to an Island from a Battle Bus. That was clear as day, but he never gives out the straight answer of No.
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> > > > > > > > My hopes are high. If you don’t like Battle Royale, don’t play it. Halo Infinite will be on PC and Xbox One. It will be on Gamepass. The population of Halo Infinite will be higher than any other Halo just by this fact. I bought Black Ops 4 just for the Blackout. Im absolutely sure people will buy Halo Infinite for a Battle Royale, and if they don’t like it, they will play arena with everyone else.
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> > > > > > > > Halo should have the current trends to gather more community members. New gamers are added to the pool all the time. You cannot expect a community to grow with the same people. You cannot expect everyone to have played all the Halos.
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> > > > > > > > PS
> > > > > > > > Im not arguing with you. Im just stating onto this. Lol
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> > > > > > > Frankie actually did gave a pretty clear no to BR in H:I, but whatever floats your goat dude.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I mean, it isn’t to me to be the one telling you or other people hoping for BR, that you’re being delusional about this but
> > > > > > > […]No. We are NOT doing this as of now–and no plans to–[…] is as simple and as straight as a statement can be.
> > > > > > > H:I won’t have BR and that’s a fact, you guys can twist it and turn it and wish for it as much as you want but if you’re,
> > > > > > > after that recent linked statement and the statement from last year, still not convinced and still expect BR to be there,
> > > > > > > you will be dissapointed.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *…we interested in big social modes with loads of organic shenanigans? Yes. Specifically A blimp full of survivors heading to an Island after a (metaphorical) lecture from Beat Takeshi? No. We are NOT doing this as of now…*You know how you answer a Yes or No question? With a simple Yes or No.
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> > > > > > Spartans coming out of a bus? No
> > > > > > A pelican? Yes.
> > > > > > I like to keep an open mind.
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> > > > > This can (apparently) be interpreted in different ways, but I think that he’s saying no to Battle Royale. (Also whenever he says “No. We are NOT doing this as of now…” he’s driving home the point that they aren’t doing BR, not that they aren’t flying players in a blimp to an island"). “Big social modes with loads of organic shenanigans” can mean many different things. This could easily mean BTB, Infection, etc. And this isn’t the only time he’s gotten across that they aren’t doing BR. Look back to all the other times they said no. Like how the only BR they’re interested in is a Battle Rifle. After he said that this argument of whether or not it will have BR should’ve been over.
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> > > > > If anyone wants a Halo BR then go to MCC, forge a map, and play it on elimination. It’s that simple, and you’d get a better experience out of that than any BR at this point in time.
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> > > > If a Battle Royale mode on MCC was so grand, I wouldn’t have ditched playing Halo in general to play Blackout on Call of Duty. Comparing 100 players per match to 16 is bizzare. Thats like comparing Battlefields Conquest to BTB territories. They are not relative or remotely similiar in terms of gameplay.
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> > > I’m not saying it’s the best, but rather the best you’re going to get from Halo. Refer to the many arguments that occurred previously on this topic (since I don’t want to repeat). All I’m saying is that’s the best Halo’s giving, so take that or nothing. If you want to play BR, then go play CoD or PUBG or whatever. What’s bizarre is how people expect Halo to latch onto a genre that will likely die before they can even release a game for it. What’s bizarre is that people still think Halo Infinite will have a BR when they said no.
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> > If a forged BR is better than a developer made BR. I hope Halo Infinite is purely forge maps again so you can have a bitter taste in your mouth too.
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> Firstly, that’s a poorly made comeback. And secondly, I never said a forged BR is better than a developer made BR; I said (and this is the last time for all time) that a forge map with elimination is the best you’re going to get from Halo. -yoink!- I wish there was a double bold button so I could get that into your head. I’m not saying that forged slayer or regular multiplayer maps are better than dev maps either.
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> And seeing as that there’s going to be no BR in Halo, it looks like you will be the only one with a bitter taste in your mouth, along with your delusional perspective.

Fortnite has existed since July, 2017 with a constant craze of Battle Royale still pushing through in popularity. Frank O Connor stated that it’s a gamemode in his perspective. The basic modes of Halo have been around for almost 20 years and have not died down.
My whole argument is that Forge is not the best we can get or should get. Until 343 directly states in an interview that Battle Royale is not happening, then I will have my answer. Too bad they haven’t been 100% clear. A Yes is a Yes. A No is a No.

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> Halo Infinite needs Battle Royal mode to stay relevant & retain multiplayer player count. BR is not a fade, it will be one of expected mode to successful FPS going forward, even Call of Duty & Battlefield are implementing their own version of BR. Fortnite, as worldwide sensation is becoming one of first FPS they played for lot of audience, not to mention PUBG. That audience will eventually look for other similar games, CoD & BF is doing just that. If Halo does not have BR, they loss the opportunity to bring part of that huge & growing audience, which will be hard to ignore. Halo has a great opportunity to bring futuristic BR mode which no AAA game currently offers.
> One of main problems I see in Halo today is that it is held back by huge baggage of nostalgia, those modes that no longer is relevant & trying to appeal to older generation that no longer plays the game. Grief ball & addition of jet pack is prime example of this. Grief ball which community demanded to be added, which no one plays anyway & jetpack & dash that players hated, which turned out to be great addition to the game. If the game tries to appeal to the old & ignore the upcoming players, it will ultimately fail to capture enough audience to stay relevant.

Don’t worry about all the negative people on here. I’ve checked profiles and game stats. Most are really bad at the games or barely played any. I do agree that Halo needs Battle Royale to stay relevant. The issue with Halo is that it doesn’t properly stay relevant.
Halo 4 tried to adapt but fell short, especially with the poor rank systems and gap in gameplay mechanics.
Halo 5 failed with content and a campaign.

The argument that Halo needs to be original makes me laugh. How is Halo original?

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> > Halo Infinite needs Battle Royal mode to stay relevant & retain multiplayer player count. BR is not a fade, it will be one of expected mode to successful FPS going forward, even Call of Duty & Battlefield are implementing their own version of BR. Fortnite, as worldwide sensation is becoming one of first FPS they played for lot of audience, not to mention PUBG. That audience will eventually look for other similar games, CoD & BF is doing just that. If Halo does not have BR, they loss the opportunity to bring part of that huge & growing audience, which will be hard to ignore. Halo has a great opportunity to bring futuristic BR mode which no AAA game currently offers.
> > One of main problems I see in Halo today is that it is held back by huge baggage of nostalgia, those modes that no longer is relevant & trying to appeal to older generation that no longer plays the game. Grief ball & addition of jet pack is prime example of this. Grief ball which community demanded to be added, which no one plays anyway & jetpack & dash that players hated, which turned out to be great addition to the game. If the game tries to appeal to the old & ignore the upcoming players, it will ultimately fail to capture enough audience to stay relevant.
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> Don’t worry about all the negative people on here. I’ve checked profiles and game stats. Most are really bad at the games or barely played any. I do agree that Halo needs Battle Royale to stay relevant. The issue with Halo is that it doesn’t properly stay relevant.
> Halo 4 tried to adapt but fell short, especially with the poor rank systems and gap in gameplay mechanics.
> Halo 5 failed with content and a campaign.
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> The argument that Halo needs to be original makes me laugh. How is Halo original?

That’s a weird hill you’re standing on; to firstly say you have an open mind then personally attack people who disagree with what you apparently believe in. Is that how low your argument has gotten? To personally attacking your opponents since you have nothing else to fight with? (Also I openly admit I’m pretty average at Halo, but that doesn’t invalidate my opinion. It should also be noted that when I first played I was drastically worse than I am now, but the stats are recorded from both then and now regardless.) BR is a fad because it’s a specific thing as opposed to a wide range of things like FFA. FFA became an industry standard because you can put many spins on it; you cannot put as many spins on BR. (And before you say fortnite does it think again; fortnite actually borrows gameplay elements from game modes like TDM and then claims they’re putting an original “spin” on it.)

I had to make a completely separate paragraph for that last part. What do you mean how is Halo original? That just shows your lack of understanding of what CE is. Combat Evolved pioneered in console gaming in that there was no game before it that utilized a control scheme for consoles so well. Before then people would joke about playing an FPS on console. CE pioneered storytelling in ways other games had never done before. CE was so original that it was one of the selling staples of the original Xbox. It was so innovative and original that it developed the term “Halo killer”; it was a myth though, nothing could kill Halo. Not Haze nor any other game that tried before and after it.

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> > > Halo Infinite needs Battle Royal mode to stay relevant & retain multiplayer player count. BR is not a fade, it will be one of expected mode to successful FPS going forward, even Call of Duty & Battlefield are implementing their own version of BR. Fortnite, as worldwide sensation is becoming one of first FPS they played for lot of audience, not to mention PUBG. That audience will eventually look for other similar games, CoD & BF is doing just that. If Halo does not have BR, they loss the opportunity to bring part of that huge & growing audience, which will be hard to ignore. Halo has a great opportunity to bring futuristic BR mode which no AAA game currently offers.
> > > One of main problems I see in Halo today is that it is held back by huge baggage of nostalgia, those modes that no longer is relevant & trying to appeal to older generation that no longer plays the game. Grief ball & addition of jet pack is prime example of this. Grief ball which community demanded to be added, which no one plays anyway & jetpack & dash that players hated, which turned out to be great addition to the game. If the game tries to appeal to the old & ignore the upcoming players, it will ultimately fail to capture enough audience to stay relevant.
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> > Don’t worry about all the negative people on here. I’ve checked profiles and game stats. Most are really bad at the games or barely played any. I do agree that Halo needs Battle Royale to stay relevant. The issue with Halo is that it doesn’t properly stay relevant.
> > Halo 4 tried to adapt but fell short, especially with the poor rank systems and gap in gameplay mechanics.
> > Halo 5 failed with content and a campaign.
> >
> > The argument that Halo needs to be original makes me laugh. How is Halo original?
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> That’s a weird hill you’re standing on; to firstly say you have an open mind then personally attack people who disagree with what you apparently believe in. Is that how low your argument has gotten? To personally attacking your opponents since you have nothing else to fight with? (Also I openly admit I’m pretty average at Halo, but that doesn’t invalidate my opinion. It should also be noted that when I first played I was drastically worse than I am now, but the stats are recorded from both then and now regardless.) BR is a fad because it’s a specific thing as opposed to a wide range of things like FFA. FFA became an industry standard because you can put many spins on it; you cannot put as many spins on BR. (And before you say fortnite does it think again; fortnite actually borrows gameplay elements from game modes like TDM and then claims they’re putting an original “spin” on it.)
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> I had to make a completely separate paragraph for that last part. What do you mean how is Halo original? That just shows your lack of understanding of what CE is. Combat Evolved pioneered in console gaming in that there was no game before it that utilized a control scheme for consoles so well. Before then people would joke about playing an FPS on console. CE pioneered storytelling in ways other games had never done before. CE was so original that it was one of the selling staples of the original Xbox. It was so innovative and original that it developed the term “Halo killer”; it was a myth though, nothing could kill Halo. Not Haze nor any other game that tried before and after it.

Im confused by your statements of originailty and FPS on consoles. Have you never played GoldenEye 007 on the Nintedo 64? Halo did not introduce FPS to consoles, it adapted and achieved its own success.
I stat your stats and game history due to lack of actual game knowledge and time spent in them. How can someone that barely played a few of the games justify what is right and wrong for anything relative to Halo? Ever stop to think that you’re the one who is delusional?

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> > > > Halo Infinite needs Battle Royal mode to stay relevant & retain multiplayer player count. BR is not a fade, it will be one of expected mode to successful FPS going forward, even Call of Duty & Battlefield are implementing their own version of BR. Fortnite, as worldwide sensation is becoming one of first FPS they played for lot of audience, not to mention PUBG. That audience will eventually look for other similar games, CoD & BF is doing just that. If Halo does not have BR, they loss the opportunity to bring part of that huge & growing audience, which will be hard to ignore. Halo has a great opportunity to bring futuristic BR mode which no AAA game currently offers.
> > > > One of main problems I see in Halo today is that it is held back by huge baggage of nostalgia, those modes that no longer is relevant & trying to appeal to older generation that no longer plays the game. Grief ball & addition of jet pack is prime example of this. Grief ball which community demanded to be added, which no one plays anyway & jetpack & dash that players hated, which turned out to be great addition to the game. If the game tries to appeal to the old & ignore the upcoming players, it will ultimately fail to capture enough audience to stay relevant.
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> > > Don’t worry about all the negative people on here. I’ve checked profiles and game stats. Most are really bad at the games or barely played any. I do agree that Halo needs Battle Royale to stay relevant. The issue with Halo is that it doesn’t properly stay relevant.
> > > Halo 4 tried to adapt but fell short, especially with the poor rank systems and gap in gameplay mechanics.
> > > Halo 5 failed with content and a campaign.
> > >
> > > The argument that Halo needs to be original makes me laugh. How is Halo original?
> >
> > That’s a weird hill you’re standing on; to firstly say you have an open mind then personally attack people who disagree with what you apparently believe in. Is that how low your argument has gotten? To personally attacking your opponents since you have nothing else to fight with? (Also I openly admit I’m pretty average at Halo, but that doesn’t invalidate my opinion. It should also be noted that when I first played I was drastically worse than I am now, but the stats are recorded from both then and now regardless.) BR is a fad because it’s a specific thing as opposed to a wide range of things like FFA. FFA became an industry standard because you can put many spins on it; you cannot put as many spins on BR. (And before you say fortnite does it think again; fortnite actually borrows gameplay elements from game modes like TDM and then claims they’re putting an original “spin” on it.)
> >
> > I had to make a completely separate paragraph for that last part. What do you mean how is Halo original? That just shows your lack of understanding of what CE is. Combat Evolved pioneered in console gaming in that there was no game before it that utilized a control scheme for consoles so well. Before then people would joke about playing an FPS on console. CE pioneered storytelling in ways other games had never done before. CE was so original that it was one of the selling staples of the original Xbox. It was so innovative and original that it developed the term “Halo killer”; it was a myth though, nothing could kill Halo. Not Haze nor any other game that tried before and after it.
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> Im confused by your statements of originailty and FPS on consoles. Have you never played GoldenEye 007 on the Nintedo 64? Halo did not introduce FPS to consoles, it adapted and achieved its own success.
> I stat your stats and game history due to lack of actual game knowledge and time spent in them. How can someone that barely played a few of the games justify what is right and wrong for anything relative to Halo? Ever stop to think that you’re the one who is delusional?

Before we get started lets check what I said. Read the -yoink!-ing post. It says it utilized a control scheme for consoles that didn’t require players to have three hands like GoldenEye 007. Yes, I have played it. And compared to CE’s innovation it’s much harder to play. I never claimed Halo introduced FPS to consoles. Read the bold repeatedly before thinking about making another reply.
Now, my game stats and history on Halo 5 show that I’ve beaten the campaign on Legendary. And I wouldn’t say that nearly 100 hours in Halo 5 (if not possibly more) is a “lack of actual game knowledge and time spent” in it. Anyways how could you blame someone for quitting playing Halo 5 after maybe ten hours if they loved the original Halos? Ever stop to think that you’re the one who is delusional? After all, you did butcher my last reply, only responded to parts of it, and completely integral parts of sentences to alter their meaning for your own dying argument.

And now, a quote from you, your latest post “makes me laugh”.

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I feel like battle royale modes will be off-trend by the time Infinite comes out. The burnout phase is already starting to kick in for many, and I’d rather see efforts directed toward literally any other aspect of the game.

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> > > > > Halo Infinite needs Battle Royal mode to stay relevant & retain multiplayer player count. BR is not a fade, it will be one of expected mode to successful FPS going forward, even Call of Duty & Battlefield are implementing their own version of BR. Fortnite, as worldwide sensation is becoming one of first FPS they played for lot of audience, not to mention PUBG. That audience will eventually look for other similar games, CoD & BF is doing just that. If Halo does not have BR, they loss the opportunity to bring part of that huge & growing audience, which will be hard to ignore. Halo has a great opportunity to bring futuristic BR mode which no AAA game currently offers.
> > > > > One of main problems I see in Halo today is that it is held back by huge baggage of nostalgia, those modes that no longer is relevant & trying to appeal to older generation that no longer plays the game. Grief ball & addition of jet pack is prime example of this. Grief ball which community demanded to be added, which no one plays anyway & jetpack & dash that players hated, which turned out to be great addition to the game. If the game tries to appeal to the old & ignore the upcoming players, it will ultimately fail to capture enough audience to stay relevant.
> > > >
> > > > Don’t worry about all the negative people on here. I’ve checked profiles and game stats. Most are really bad at the games or barely played any. I do agree that Halo needs Battle Royale to stay relevant. The issue with Halo is that it doesn’t properly stay relevant.
> > > > Halo 4 tried to adapt but fell short, especially with the poor rank systems and gap in gameplay mechanics.
> > > > Halo 5 failed with content and a campaign.
> > > >
> > > > The argument that Halo needs to be original makes me laugh. How is Halo original?
> > >
> > > Combat Evolved pioneered in console gaming in that there was no game before it that utilized a control scheme for consoles so well. Before then people would joke about playing an FPS on console. CE pioneered storytelling in ways other games had never done before. CE was so original that it was one of the selling staples of the original Xbox. It was so innovative and original that it developed the term “Halo killer”; it was a myth though, nothing could kill Halo. Not Haze nor any other game that tried before and after it.

Halo did not create the ‘better’ control scheme, the Xbox had a better controller.

Please make a better argument than stating it was more original by being more original.

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no br in halo it will ruin halo more then other game have

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I come back to this thread after probably what feels about 1000 or so posts and dear lord. Some of you are for or against and quite a few of you are just attacking each other over personal opinions. And while I am not a moderator nor am I pretending to be one; do remember that attacking one another will get you in trouble.

Look, as a personal opinion: I hate Battle Royale. I hate everything that it is because it’s boring and honestly doesn’t really change much from just your typical FFA except that most BR games throw lootable stuff around the map. (I mean, there’s also the wall of death that continuously creeps up on you as you move, but that’s whatever.) I personally don’t think Halo should ever touch Battle Royale, it would just be trying to chase another fad that’s likely to die out when Halo Infinite finally drops.

I don’t care if people think it’s going to live forever; it’s not. It’s already dying out fast, look at Apex Legends which started out hot and is now freezing over on their numbers as people move on. BR in Halo would probably die just as fast (within months) and likely won’t really get much attention with the exception of those who like both Halo and Fortnite. It would also be seen as a cash grab attempt at keeping everyone’s attention. Ultimately, nothing good comes from it.

If you like BR games, that’s fine, by all means go ahead and play them till you pass out or your Xbox finally shuts itself off from overheating. But I think it’s wrong to demand a long standing series like Halo to follow a trend that very well might not see much more life.

If there was a promising future for it and it didn’t look ready to die as a genre, then I might be inclined to tolerate it in Halo (not really, I still hate it to bits).

I still don’t understand what those of you who like BR find so fun about the game type. Like, what is so dang fun about being thrown into a playground with 49 other people and being corralled like cattle to the center as people get picked off? Roughly about 40% of the players are going to be wiped out within the first 2-3 minutes and they will then have to re-queue up with 49 other people. You will spend roughly 60% of your time just LOOKING for a game if you’re unlucky or not a ‘pro’ at the game. I’d rather not spend more of my time looking for a game than playing one…

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I’m done arguing because it’s pointless; any good point I bring up is immediately fought back with by an inadequate response. All that’s been said is, I don’t think a BR is coming to Halo, and the facts are there. If anyone wants to view the facts differently, even though they’re fact, that’s up to you. Why are some people obsessed with Halo BR? I know not. This has gotten kind of toxic, so until someone starts developing something useful here, I’m done with this topic.

This topic needs to die; in fact it’s already dead, a corpse reanimated. This has turned into a dead horse beating and argument that I’ve been involved in that has changed no one’s opinion but only hardened some’s stances. We’ve already talked everything about BR and now it’s over. If you have an opinion on it it’s probably already been mentioned here before.

There are many better things to be said on these forums. Seek discussion elsewhere.

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> I’m done arguing because it’s pointless; any good point I bring up is immediately fought back with by an inadequate response. All that’s been said is, I don’t think a BR is coming to Halo, and the facts are there. If anyone wants to view the facts differently, even though they’re fact, that’s up to you. Why are some people obsessed with Halo BR? I know not. This has gotten kind of toxic, so until someone starts developing something useful here, I’m done with this topic.

That is this thread in a nutshell. I already stated that I made something similar back in H2 with 1 life randomized weapons and nobody like it. The excuse the supporters have was that it didn’t have 100 players (as if an arbitrary number has anything to do with the genre), or it didn’t have that shrinking environment which you could easily make in forge with soft kill zones. But no, I have found that the community is still obsessed with quote-countering their arguments as it was back in in 2004. Of course the mods were a little more active about stopping such stuff. Some people you just can’t reason with, and you can’t reason with anyone over the internet.

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> I’m done arguing because it’s pointless; any good point I bring up is immediately fought back with by an inadequate response. All that’s been said is, I don’t think a BR is coming to Halo, and the facts are there. If anyone wants to view the facts differently, even though they’re fact, that’s up to you. Why are some people obsessed with Halo BR? I know not. This has gotten kind of toxic, so until someone starts developing something useful here, I’m done with this topic.
>
> This topic needs to die; in fact it’s already dead, a corpse reanimated. This has turned into a dead horse beating and argument that I’ve been involved in that has changed no one’s opinion but only hardened some’s stances. We’ve already talked everything about BR and now it’s over. If you have an opinion on it it’s probably already been mentioned here before.
>
> There are many better things to be said on these forums. Seek discussion elsewhere.

Yeah don’t worry bud, it’s always hard arguing with BR fanboys when you bring up good & valid point and they refuse to listen & only believe their opinion is right and yours is wrong It honestly has become Toxic

I honestly think BR in Halo Infinite isn’t really necessary, imo I think adding BR in every game would just become a boring trend, Halo Infinite is fine without it, if they wanted to make a BR Halo, make it a spin-off for people who want a BR Halo they can play that

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> > Halo Infinite needs Battle Royal mode to stay relevant & retain multiplayer player count. BR is not a fade, it will be one of expected mode to successful FPS going forward, even Call of Duty & Battlefield are implementing their own version of BR. Fortnite, as worldwide sensation is becoming one of first FPS they played for lot of audience, not to mention PUBG. That audience will eventually look for other similar games, CoD & BF is doing just that. If Halo does not have BR, they loss the opportunity to bring part of that huge & growing audience, which will be hard to ignore. Halo has a great opportunity to bring futuristic BR mode which no AAA game currently offers.
> > One of main problems I see in Halo today is that it is held back by huge baggage of nostalgia, those modes that no longer is relevant & trying to appeal to older generation that no longer plays the game. Grief ball & addition of jet pack is prime example of this. Grief ball which community demanded to be added, which no one plays anyway & jetpack & dash that players hated, which turned out to be great addition to the game. If the game tries to appeal to the old & ignore the upcoming players, it will ultimately fail to capture enough audience to stay relevant.
>
> Don’t worry about all the negative people on here. I’ve checked profiles and game stats. Most are really bad at the games or barely played any. I do agree that Halo needs Battle Royale to stay relevant. The issue with Halo is that it doesn’t properly stay relevant.
> Halo 4 tried to adapt but fell short, especially with the poor rank systems and gap in gameplay mechanics.
> Halo 5 failed with content and a campaign.
>
> The argument that Halo needs to be original makes me laugh. How is Halo original?

People’s skills and games played have anything to so with what exactly??

Maybe it’s just me, but I’d rather have a game I like which is “irrelevant”, rather than a relevant game which I’m not enjoying.

Then there’s that last gem.
How exactly does Halo adding something which “everyone else” is doing, help it be relevant.
The big BR games are PubG, Fortnite and Apex, three games does not seem like that many. How many of these are “relevant”?
You may not have found Halo “original” with whatever reasonings you may choose to use.
But rarely does something hit home by copying what others are doing. If that low occurance was a common scenario, WoW would’ve been dethroned a long time ago, CoD wouldn’t be a thing and DotA / LoL would both have faded into memory.

By all means, Halo doesn’t need to be original, but it has a far better shot at “relevancy” by doing things differently and doing that thing well, rather than doing what others are doing, even if that too is done well. Halo 4’s “adaptation” (buzzword, and “adapt” to what exactly?) is a nice indication of that.

Side note: If the amount of players you play with objectively increased the quality / fun of a game, M.A.G would have been a huge thing, and Planetside 2 far bigger than it is now.

I343 can make a BR Halo standalone game, but starting to implement it into Infinite will most likely spread resources too thin for the whole projects and most aspects of the game would see some sort of compromises / quality issues.

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> > > > > > > > > > Haven’t checked this thread in a while, but super glad to see that the vast majority of people here don’t want to see a battle royal mode in infinite :grin:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > This said, I think a decent amount of people would be ok with a stand alone battle royal game though (a free to play one for example)
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > The recent interview that Frank O’Connor gave in response to all the Battle Royal talk still left me a little concerned. He keep saying things along the lines of “As of now we aren’t” I truly hope 343I doesn’t do something dumb and add it at a later date to Infinite or something. Just keep things separate.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > If they did, their spin on it would be much better than it’s predecessors. Imagine being an ODST squad dropping into a ring and you have to evade hostile covenant and hostile ODST teams in order to get to your Pelican for extraction.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I agree. An ODST drop would be amazing. If you actually read into the Interview with Frank o Connor, he never said no to Battle Royale. He was riding the edge of the question. We won’t drop to an Island from a Battle Bus. That was clear as day, but he never gives out the straight answer of No.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > My hopes are high. If you don’t like Battle Royale, don’t play it. Halo Infinite will be on PC and Xbox One. It will be on Gamepass. The population of Halo Infinite will be higher than any other Halo just by this fact. I bought Black Ops 4 just for the Blackout. Im absolutely sure people will buy Halo Infinite for a Battle Royale, and if they don’t like it, they will play arena with everyone else.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Halo should have the current trends to gather more community members. New gamers are added to the pool all the time. You cannot expect a community to grow with the same people. You cannot expect everyone to have played all the Halos.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > PS
> > > > > > > > Im not arguing with you. Im just stating onto this. Lol
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Frankie actually did gave a pretty clear no to BR in H:I, but whatever floats your goat dude.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I mean, it isn’t to me to be the one telling you or other people hoping for BR, that you’re being delusional about this but
> > > > > > > […]No. We are NOT doing this as of now–and no plans to–[…] is as simple and as straight as a statement can be.
> > > > > > > H:I won’t have BR and that’s a fact, you guys can twist it and turn it and wish for it as much as you want but if you’re,
> > > > > > > after that recent linked statement and the statement from last year, still not convinced and still expect BR to be there,
> > > > > > > you will be dissapointed.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *…we interested in big social modes with loads of organic shenanigans? Yes. Specifically A blimp full of survivors heading to an Island after a (metaphorical) lecture from Beat Takeshi? No. We are NOT doing this as of now…*You know how you answer a Yes or No question? With a simple Yes or No.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Spartans coming out of a bus? No
> > > > > > A pelican? Yes.
> > > > > > I like to keep an open mind.
> > > > >
> > > > > This can (apparently) be interpreted in different ways, but I think that he’s saying no to Battle Royale. (Also whenever he says “No. We are NOT doing this as of now…” he’s driving home the point that they aren’t doing BR, not that they aren’t flying players in a blimp to an island"). “Big social modes with loads of organic shenanigans” can mean many different things. This could easily mean BTB, Infection, etc. And this isn’t the only time he’s gotten across that they aren’t doing BR. Look back to all the other times they said no. Like how the only BR they’re interested in is a Battle Rifle. After he said that this argument of whether or not it will have BR should’ve been over.
> > > > >
> > > > > If anyone wants a Halo BR then go to MCC, forge a map, and play it on elimination. It’s that simple, and you’d get a better experience out of that than any BR at this point in time.
> > > >
> > > > If a Battle Royale mode on MCC was so grand, I wouldn’t have ditched playing Halo in general to play Blackout on Call of Duty. Comparing 100 players per match to 16 is bizzare. Thats like comparing Battlefields Conquest to BTB territories. They are not relative or remotely similiar in terms of gameplay.
> > >
> > > 343 and O’Connor have stated multiple times that they jave no interest in BR, and that to focus on such a ephemeral trend would be arbitrarily hurtful to the integrity of the franchise as a whole.
> >
> > That is not an accurate statement at all. I watched a recent interview with Bonnie Ross, and she said nothing of the sort. In fact, she stated that Battle Royale is talked about a lot in the studio, she also said she was impressed with Apex and what Respawn have achieved. I’m not sure we’ll see a Battle Royale with Halo Infinite, but the studio has got an interest in the genre, and I think we’ll see it at some point.
>
> I wouldn’t say it’s inaccurateSeems odd why it’s talked about when Frankie has said they don’t even have plans for it (I mean, why talk about it when you’ll do nothing with it to begin with?).
>
> http://amp.denofgeek.com/us/games/halo/280695/halo-infinite-launch-battle-royale-modeIf Bonnie is saying that it contradicts her own employees 🤷 which is just a turn off to me as it means upper management and the devs aren’t actually on the same page when one group says this and the other that.
>
> That said who knows, maybe 343 is just wanting to keep BR quiet until launch, devs hide things all the time.

It is inaccurate if you’ve seen the Bonnie Ross interview. The user stated 343 and O’Connor have stated multiple times that they jave no interest in BR, and that to focus on such a ephemeral trend would be arbitrarily hurtful to the integrity of the franchise as a whole. I linked the interview below, Battle Royale is discussed at about 46.30, and she says nothing close to what the user stated. I don’t think Halo Infinite will launch with Battle Royale, but Bonnie Ross does not state they have no interest, I think we’ll see it at some point.

Bonnie discusses Battle Royale.

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> > > > > > > > > Haven’t checked this thread in a while, but super glad to see that the vast majority of people here don’t want to see a battle royal mode in infinite :grin:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > This said, I think a decent amount of people would be ok with a stand alone battle royal game though (a free to play one for example)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The recent interview that Frank O’Connor gave in response to all the Battle Royal talk still left me a little concerned. He keep saying things along the lines of “As of now we aren’t” I truly hope 343I doesn’t do something dumb and add it at a later date to Infinite or something. Just keep things separate.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > If they did, their spin on it would be much better than it’s predecessors. Imagine being an ODST squad dropping into a ring and you have to evade hostile covenant and hostile ODST teams in order to get to your Pelican for extraction.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I agree. An ODST drop would be amazing. If you actually read into the Interview with Frank o Connor, he never said no to Battle Royale. He was riding the edge of the question. We won’t drop to an Island from a Battle Bus. That was clear as day, but he never gives out the straight answer of No.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > My hopes are high. If you don’t like Battle Royale, don’t play it. Halo Infinite will be on PC and Xbox One. It will be on Gamepass. The population of Halo Infinite will be higher than any other Halo just by this fact. I bought Black Ops 4 just for the Blackout. Im absolutely sure people will buy Halo Infinite for a Battle Royale, and if they don’t like it, they will play arena with everyone else.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Halo should have the current trends to gather more community members. New gamers are added to the pool all the time. You cannot expect a community to grow with the same people. You cannot expect everyone to have played all the Halos.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > PS
> > > > > > > Im not arguing with you. Im just stating onto this. Lol
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Frankie actually did gave a pretty clear no to BR in H:I, but whatever floats your goat dude.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I mean, it isn’t to me to be the one telling you or other people hoping for BR, that you’re being delusional about this but
> > > > > > […]No. We are NOT doing this as of now–and no plans to–[…] is as simple and as straight as a statement can be.
> > > > > > H:I won’t have BR and that’s a fact, you guys can twist it and turn it and wish for it as much as you want but if you’re,
> > > > > > after that recent linked statement and the statement from last year, still not convinced and still expect BR to be there,
> > > > > > you will be dissapointed.
> > > > >
> > > > > *…we interested in big social modes with loads of organic shenanigans? Yes. Specifically A blimp full of survivors heading to an Island after a (metaphorical) lecture from Beat Takeshi? No. We are NOT doing this as of now…*You know how you answer a Yes or No question? With a simple Yes or No.
> > > > >
> > > > > Spartans coming out of a bus? No
> > > > > A pelican? Yes.
> > > > > I like to keep an open mind.
> > > >
> > > > This can (apparently) be interpreted in different ways, but I think that he’s saying no to Battle Royale. (Also whenever he says “No. We are NOT doing this as of now…” he’s driving home the point that they aren’t doing BR, not that they aren’t flying players in a blimp to an island"). “Big social modes with loads of organic shenanigans” can mean many different things. This could easily mean BTB, Infection, etc. And this isn’t the only time he’s gotten across that they aren’t doing BR. Look back to all the other times they said no. Like how the only BR they’re interested in is a Battle Rifle. After he said that this argument of whether or not it will have BR should’ve been over.
> > > >
> > > > If anyone wants a Halo BR then go to MCC, forge a map, and play it on elimination. It’s that simple, and you’d get a better experience out of that than any BR at this point in time.
> > >
> > > If a Battle Royale mode on MCC was so grand, I wouldn’t have ditched playing Halo in general to play Blackout on Call of Duty. Comparing 100 players per match to 16 is bizzare. Thats like comparing Battlefields Conquest to BTB territories. They are not relative or remotely similiar in terms of gameplay.
> >
> > You talk like you are the Arbiter of popular games, and just because you choose to play BR games instead of Halo means everyone else does too, right? Get your inane fantasies out of here. O’Connor clearly stated there is no interest at 343 in doing a BR mode, the closest thing he said to there being one is that you can probably create one yourself in Infinite. 343 and O’Connor (as well as the vast majority of the community and people on this thread) have stated multiple times that they jave no interest in BR, and that to focus on such a ephemeral trend would be arbitrarily hurtful to the integrity of the franchise as a whole. Halo made it’s name not by copying the formula of it’s competitors, but by forging it’s own unique path straight through it’s competitors.
>
> Please tell me how Halo is unique to you.

It’s not unique to me, it is unique by itself. I’m talking about real Halo, not 4 or 5, which both suffered respectively for having COD-like elements like sprint, loadouts, ADS, built-in armor abilities, etc. Halo’s CE-Reach each had elements that seperated itself frm the last game while still maintaining the core gameplay and atmosphere. The lack of sprint, dual-wielding, soundtracks, art style, and story are all unique to themselves, and certainly didn’t play like any other shooter during it’s time, with just one example being the lack of sprint in every early Halo but Reach, which even still wasn’t fully implemented.

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> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > This said, I think a decent amount of people would be ok with a stand alone battle royal game though (a free to play one for example)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The recent interview that Frank O’Connor gave in response to all the Battle Royal talk still left me a little concerned. He keep saying things along the lines of “As of now we aren’t” I truly hope 343I doesn’t do something dumb and add it at a later date to Infinite or something. Just keep things separate.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > If they did, their spin on it would be much better than it’s predecessors. Imagine being an ODST squad dropping into a ring and you have to evade hostile covenant and hostile ODST teams in order to get to your Pelican for extraction.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I agree. An ODST drop would be amazing. If you actually read into the Interview with Frank o Connor, he never said no to Battle Royale. He was riding the edge of the question. We won’t drop to an Island from a Battle Bus. That was clear as day, but he never gives out the straight answer of No.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > My hopes are high. If you don’t like Battle Royale, don’t play it. Halo Infinite will be on PC and Xbox One. It will be on Gamepass. The population of Halo Infinite will be higher than any other Halo just by this fact. I bought Black Ops 4 just for the Blackout. Im absolutely sure people will buy Halo Infinite for a Battle Royale, and if they don’t like it, they will play arena with everyone else.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Halo should have the current trends to gather more community members. New gamers are added to the pool all the time. You cannot expect a community to grow with the same people. You cannot expect everyone to have played all the Halos.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > PS
> > > > > > > Im not arguing with you. Im just stating onto this. Lol
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Frankie actually did gave a pretty clear no to BR in H:I, but whatever floats your goat dude.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I mean, it isn’t to me to be the one telling you or other people hoping for BR, that you’re being delusional about this but
> > > > > > […]No. We are NOT doing this as of now–and no plans to–[…] is as simple and as straight as a statement can be.
> > > > > > H:I won’t have BR and that’s a fact, you guys can twist it and turn it and wish for it as much as you want but if you’re,
> > > > > > after that recent linked statement and the statement from last year, still not convinced and still expect BR to be there,
> > > > > > you will be dissapointed.
> > > > >
> > > > > *…we interested in big social modes with loads of organic shenanigans? Yes. Specifically A blimp full of survivors heading to an Island after a (metaphorical) lecture from Beat Takeshi? No. We are NOT doing this as of now…*You know how you answer a Yes or No question? With a simple Yes or No.
> > > > >
> > > > > Spartans coming out of a bus? No
> > > > > A pelican? Yes.
> > > > > I like to keep an open mind.
> > > >
> > > > This can (apparently) be interpreted in different ways, but I think that he’s saying no to Battle Royale. (Also whenever he says “No. We are NOT doing this as of now…” he’s driving home the point that they aren’t doing BR, not that they aren’t flying players in a blimp to an island"). “Big social modes with loads of organic shenanigans” can mean many different things. This could easily mean BTB, Infection, etc. And this isn’t the only time he’s gotten across that they aren’t doing BR. Look back to all the other times they said no. Like how the only BR they’re interested in is a Battle Rifle. After he said that this argument of whether or not it will have BR should’ve been over.
> > > >
> > > > If anyone wants a Halo BR then go to MCC, forge a map, and play it on elimination. It’s that simple, and you’d get a better experience out of that than any BR at this point in time.
> > >
> > > If a Battle Royale mode on MCC was so grand, I wouldn’t have ditched playing Halo in general to play Blackout on Call of Duty. Comparing 100 players per match to 16 is bizzare. Thats like comparing Battlefields Conquest to BTB territories. They are not relative or remotely similiar in terms of gameplay.
> >
> > 343 and O’Connor have stated multiple times that they jave no interest in BR, and that to focus on such a ephemeral trend would be arbitrarily hurtful to the integrity of the franchise as a whole.
>
> That is not an accurate statement at all. I watched a recent interview with Bonnie Ross, and she said nothing of the sort. In fact, she stated that Battle Royale is talked about a lot in the studio, she also said she was impressed with Apex and what Respawn have achieved. I’m not sure we’ll see a Battle Royale with Halo Infinite, but the studio has got an interest in the genre, and I think we’ll see it at some point.

They have stated multiple times that they are not interested in it, not once have they said it is something they are planning on.

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> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > This said, I think a decent amount of people would be ok with a stand alone battle royal game though (a free to play one for example)
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > The recent interview that Frank O’Connor gave in response to all the Battle Royal talk still left me a little concerned. He keep saying things along the lines of “As of now we aren’t” I truly hope 343I doesn’t do something dumb and add it at a later date to Infinite or something. Just keep things separate.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > If they did, their spin on it would be much better than it’s predecessors. Imagine being an ODST squad dropping into a ring and you have to evade hostile covenant and hostile ODST teams in order to get to your Pelican for extraction.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I agree. An ODST drop would be amazing. If you actually read into the Interview with Frank o Connor, he never said no to Battle Royale. He was riding the edge of the question. We won’t drop to an Island from a Battle Bus. That was clear as day, but he never gives out the straight answer of No.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > My hopes are high. If you don’t like Battle Royale, don’t play it. Halo Infinite will be on PC and Xbox One. It will be on Gamepass. The population of Halo Infinite will be higher than any other Halo just by this fact. I bought Black Ops 4 just for the Blackout. Im absolutely sure people will buy Halo Infinite for a Battle Royale, and if they don’t like it, they will play arena with everyone else.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Halo should have the current trends to gather more community members. New gamers are added to the pool all the time. You cannot expect a community to grow with the same people. You cannot expect everyone to have played all the Halos.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > PS
> > > > > > > > Im not arguing with you. Im just stating onto this. Lol
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Frankie actually did gave a pretty clear no to BR in H:I, but whatever floats your goat dude.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I mean, it isn’t to me to be the one telling you or other people hoping for BR, that you’re being delusional about this but
> > > > > > > […]No. We are NOT doing this as of now–and no plans to–[…] is as simple and as straight as a statement can be.
> > > > > > > H:I won’t have BR and that’s a fact, you guys can twist it and turn it and wish for it as much as you want but if you’re,
> > > > > > > after that recent linked statement and the statement from last year, still not convinced and still expect BR to be there,
> > > > > > > you will be dissapointed.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *…we interested in big social modes with loads of organic shenanigans? Yes. Specifically A blimp full of survivors heading to an Island after a (metaphorical) lecture from Beat Takeshi? No. We are NOT doing this as of now…*You know how you answer a Yes or No question? With a simple Yes or No.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Spartans coming out of a bus? No
> > > > > > A pelican? Yes.
> > > > > > I like to keep an open mind.
> > > > >
> > > > > This can (apparently) be interpreted in different ways, but I think that he’s saying no to Battle Royale. (Also whenever he says “No. We are NOT doing this as of now…” he’s driving home the point that they aren’t doing BR, not that they aren’t flying players in a blimp to an island"). “Big social modes with loads of organic shenanigans” can mean many different things. This could easily mean BTB, Infection, etc. And this isn’t the only time he’s gotten across that they aren’t doing BR. Look back to all the other times they said no. Like how the only BR they’re interested in is a Battle Rifle. After he said that this argument of whether or not it will have BR should’ve been over.
> > > > >
> > > > > If anyone wants a Halo BR then go to MCC, forge a map, and play it on elimination. It’s that simple, and you’d get a better experience out of that than any BR at this point in time.
> > > >
> > > > If a Battle Royale mode on MCC was so grand, I wouldn’t have ditched playing Halo in general to play Blackout on Call of Duty. Comparing 100 players per match to 16 is bizzare. Thats like comparing Battlefields Conquest to BTB territories. They are not relative or remotely similiar in terms of gameplay.
> > >
> > > 343 and O’Connor have stated multiple times that they jave no interest in BR, and that to focus on such a ephemeral trend would be arbitrarily hurtful to the integrity of the franchise as a whole.
> >
> > That is not an accurate statement at all. I watched a recent interview with Bonnie Ross, and she said nothing of the sort. In fact, she stated that Battle Royale is talked about a lot in the studio, she also said she was impressed with Apex and what Respawn have achieved. I’m not sure we’ll see a Battle Royale with Halo Infinite, but the studio has got an interest in the genre, and I think we’ll see it at some point.
>
> They have stated multiple times that they are not interested in it, not once have they said it is something they are planning on.

Go watch the interview with Bonnie Ross. Then tell me they have no interest. I think we’ll see it at some point. Especially after what Bonnie Ross said. I don’t know if we’ll see it with Infinite, but I can see them doing a stand alone title, like Apex for example. Games like Fortnite and Apex are incredibly popular, they make a ton of money too, 343i would be silly to not consider a Halo Battle Royale imo. Also, if they do make it a stand alone it won’t affect Halo fans that don’t want it, they can simply ignore it. I love Titanfall but won’t play Apex, there’s no choices. Halo fans against Battle Royale, or not happy with what it offers could do the same.

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> > Halo Infinite needs Battle Royal mode to stay relevant & retain multiplayer player count. BR is not a fade, it will be one of expected mode to successful FPS going forward, even Call of Duty & Battlefield are implementing their own version of BR. Fortnite, as worldwide sensation is becoming one of first FPS they played for lot of audience, not to mention PUBG. That audience will eventually look for other similar games, CoD & BF is doing just that. If Halo does not have BR, they loss the opportunity to bring part of that huge & growing audience, which will be hard to ignore. Halo has a great opportunity to bring futuristic BR mode which no AAA game currently offers.
> > One of main problems I see in Halo today is that it is held back by huge baggage of nostalgia, those modes that no longer is relevant & trying to appeal to older generation that no longer plays the game. Grief ball & addition of jet pack is prime example of this. Grief ball which community demanded to be added, which no one plays anyway & jetpack & dash that players hated, which turned out to be great addition to the game. If the game tries to appeal to the old & ignore the upcoming players, it will ultimately fail to capture enough audience to stay relevant.
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> Don’t worry about all the negative people on here. I’ve checked profiles and game stats. Most are really bad at the games or barely played any. I do agree that Halo needs Battle Royale to stay relevant. The issue with Halo is that it doesn’t properly stay relevant.
> Halo 4 tried to adapt but fell short, especially with the poor rank systems and gap in gameplay mechanics.
> Halo 5 failed with content and a campaign.
>
> The argument that Halo needs to be original makes me laugh. How is Halo original?

If you don’t think Halo had a mass influence on FPS, especially console FPS then you must be either be very young and/or don’t follow video games. Here is ONE article that does a decent job explaining a few things Link Also, Halo was just inducted into the video game hall of frame not long ago. Maybe you should go read about why it was.

Halo definitely needs to stop following trends. There are numerous reasons why Halo isn’t as popular as it once was it’s true but, it’s pretty clear that since Halo has started too try and copy treads, it’s popularity, sales, everything has also gone down. That’s not a coincidence. Halo used to be trendsetter, not copy everyone else. It needs to get back to that.

Also, A player skill doesn’t make their opinion less valid, my gosh!!! I’m leaps and bounds better then my friend at pretty much every video game, does that mean his opinion means nothing?? Oh look, I have much better stats then you do in Halo 5, does that mean whatever I say is right and what you say is wrong? Seriously listen to yourself. Do you hear how dumb your statement sounds??

You don’t have to be good at, in this case Halo, to understand how the game works. There are a lot of people who weren’t good at playing x sport or game who ended up being one of the best coaches of that sport or understanding how that game works.

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> > > > > > > > > > > Haven’t checked this thread in a while, but super glad to see that the vast majority of people here don’t want to see a battle royal mode in infinite :grin:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > This said, I think a decent amount of people would be ok with a stand alone battle royal game though (a free to play one for example)
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > The recent interview that Frank O’Connor gave in response to all the Battle Royal talk still left me a little concerned. He keep saying things along the lines of “As of now we aren’t” I truly hope 343I doesn’t do something dumb and add it at a later date to Infinite or something. Just keep things separate.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > If they did, their spin on it would be much better than it’s predecessors. Imagine being an ODST squad dropping into a ring and you have to evade hostile covenant and hostile ODST teams in order to get to your Pelican for extraction.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I agree. An ODST drop would be amazing. If you actually read into the Interview with Frank o Connor, he never said no to Battle Royale. He was riding the edge of the question. We won’t drop to an Island from a Battle Bus. That was clear as day, but he never gives out the straight answer of No.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > My hopes are high. If you don’t like Battle Royale, don’t play it. Halo Infinite will be on PC and Xbox One. It will be on Gamepass. The population of Halo Infinite will be higher than any other Halo just by this fact. I bought Black Ops 4 just for the Blackout. Im absolutely sure people will buy Halo Infinite for a Battle Royale, and if they don’t like it, they will play arena with everyone else.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Halo should have the current trends to gather more community members. New gamers are added to the pool all the time. You cannot expect a community to grow with the same people. You cannot expect everyone to have played all the Halos.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > PS
> > > > > > > > > Im not arguing with you. Im just stating onto this. Lol
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Frankie actually did gave a pretty clear no to BR in H:I, but whatever floats your goat dude.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I mean, it isn’t to me to be the one telling you or other people hoping for BR, that you’re being delusional about this but
> > > > > > > > […]No. We are NOT doing this as of now–and no plans to–[…] is as simple and as straight as a statement can be.
> > > > > > > > H:I won’t have BR and that’s a fact, you guys can twist it and turn it and wish for it as much as you want but if you’re,
> > > > > > > > after that recent linked statement and the statement from last year, still not convinced and still expect BR to be there,
> > > > > > > > you will be dissapointed.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > *…we interested in big social modes with loads of organic shenanigans? Yes. Specifically A blimp full of survivors heading to an Island after a (metaphorical) lecture from Beat Takeshi? No. We are NOT doing this as of now…*You know how you answer a Yes or No question? With a simple Yes or No.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Spartans coming out of a bus? No
> > > > > > > A pelican? Yes.
> > > > > > > I like to keep an open mind.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This can (apparently) be interpreted in different ways, but I think that he’s saying no to Battle Royale. (Also whenever he says “No. We are NOT doing this as of now…” he’s driving home the point that they aren’t doing BR, not that they aren’t flying players in a blimp to an island"). “Big social modes with loads of organic shenanigans” can mean many different things. This could easily mean BTB, Infection, etc. And this isn’t the only time he’s gotten across that they aren’t doing BR. Look back to all the other times they said no. Like how the only BR they’re interested in is a Battle Rifle. After he said that this argument of whether or not it will have BR should’ve been over.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If anyone wants a Halo BR then go to MCC, forge a map, and play it on elimination. It’s that simple, and you’d get a better experience out of that than any BR at this point in time.
> > > > >
> > > > > If a Battle Royale mode on MCC was so grand, I wouldn’t have ditched playing Halo in general to play Blackout on Call of Duty. Comparing 100 players per match to 16 is bizzare. Thats like comparing Battlefields Conquest to BTB territories. They are not relative or remotely similiar in terms of gameplay.
> > > >
> > > > 343 and O’Connor have stated multiple times that they jave no interest in BR, and that to focus on such a ephemeral trend would be arbitrarily hurtful to the integrity of the franchise as a whole.
> > >
> > > That is not an accurate statement at all. I watched a recent interview with Bonnie Ross, and she said nothing of the sort. In fact, she stated that Battle Royale is talked about a lot in the studio, she also said she was impressed with Apex and what Respawn have achieved. I’m not sure we’ll see a Battle Royale with Halo Infinite, but the studio has got an interest in the genre, and I think we’ll see it at some point.
> >
> > They have stated multiple times that they are not interested in it, not once have they said it is something they are planning on.
>
> Go watch the interview with Bonnie Ross. Then tell me they have no interest. I think we’ll see it at some point. Especially after what Bonnie Ross said. I don’t know if we’ll see it with Infinite, but I can see them doing a stand alone title, like Apex for example. Games like Fortnite and Apex are incredibly popular, they make a ton of money too, 343i would be silly to consider a Halo Battle Royale imo. Also, if they do make it a stand alone it won’t affect Halo fans that don’t want it, they can simply ignore it. I love Titanfall but won’t play Apex, there’s no choices. Halo fans against Battle Royale, or not happy with what it offers could do the same.

I wouldn’t quite say it wouldn’t affect Halo fans who don’t like BR. When you have a series that has built itself a reputation over the years and in this case decades, each game whether tied to the main arch or not will be considered by the fans in one way or another.

To say that it won’t be considered is well, kinda ludicrous. Titles like Halo, CoD, Gears of War; they will always get the attention of the fans the moment they see the familiar words. So, in this case if they were to make Halo: Battle Royale, it would get everyone who has ever played Halo’s attention and not always for the better. Fans who dislike it will voice their opinions and will most likely steer away from the series from that point on because they will believe that the company has gotten to an all time low that they would flock to the current trends to try to keep up rather than do their own thing to stay above water.