Not a fan of BR, but the success of Blackout mode really shows how much it pulls. 343i should really reconsider their position on it and drop Warzone in its favor.
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> Not a fan of BR, but the success of Blackout mode really shows how much it pulls. 343i should really reconsider their position on it and drop Warzone in its favor.
As much as I hate BRs, Warzone is crap and Iâd probably prefer a BR to it. Halo has the gameplay triangle that would go perfect with a BR tbh. It would probably just be classic halo on a very large map. Interesting to think about, but hopefully not too boring.
BRâs are so stale now, no. We really dont need anymore BRâs at this point.
Not every fps needs a damn battle royale mode.Halo 4 copied trends and see how that went?
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> > A fad is a short lived enthusiasm for something. CoD Zombies has been around for nine or ten years, Battle Royale can be traced back at least eighteen years, the Battle Royale games have been around at least six years. Battle Royale will not disappear or be dead by the time Halo Infinite drops. Halo could have an excellent Battle Royale mode imo, also Battlefield V did not fail because of the inclusion of Battle Royale, the sales are down because EA and Dice made bad choices, calling their community uneducated, and then have the audacity to tell us not to buy it if we didnât like it. I took their advice.
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> Battle Royale can be traced back five years. If you are thinking about the novel, a completely different media, that came out in 2003, again, not eighteen years. The first âgameâ made in the Battle Royale genre was a mod for ARMA. This was made in 2013, I believe, so over five years ago. However, the genre only ever exploded post the launch of PUBG, which started the Battle Royale craze, making the genre a fad. Your error was in assuming that when a fad dies down, whatever it was disappears completely, post craze. That is not the case. As in your example of CoD Zombies. It remains popular, yes. But it has no great âcrazeâ surrounding it anymore. It was a fad, extremely popular, but now it is not. It has its player base, but every Youtuber ever isnât trying to ride the views from CoD zombies, as they once did. And that is what is happening with Battle Royale currently. It is a fad, and it will die down. Certain games in the genre will still succeed and do well, but being a âBattle Royaleâ will not be a selling point. Which leads into my next point.
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> The point in regards to Battlefield V was that adding a Battle Royale mode does not make a game good. This much is obvious, as EAâs latest blunder, in a long line of blunders, is a mediocre game. They probably thought they could sell it based on their new Battle Royale mode, along with myriad other inane focus group ideas. However, Battlefieldâs core audience already know what they want from a Battlefield game, much as Halo fans know what they want from Halo. Having 343i focus time and resources on something that you could easily make in Forge for play in custom games is absolutely superfluous. If you say, asked for things like increasing the maximum number of players in custom games, to 100, or whatever so tickles your fancy, well, that wouldnât be so specific and wasteful. But devoting resources to something that is distinctly not Halo because you want to play Battle Royale with a Halo texture pack is ridiculous. You could easily make a BR map in Halo 5, let alone whatever improvements they make in Halo Infinite. So why do you think itâs a worthwhile venture to spend an ungodly amount of time on something that doesnât sell a game, can be done by the community, and alienates the core audience?
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> Now, to go off topic, -Yoink- EA. They deserve bankruptcy after their recent stunt. Changing history is one thing, calling your customer ignorant is another⌠telling them not to by your game shortly thereafter is just beyond stupid, and then mocking them at an early celebratory party (before your game fails utterly; wholly) is suicide.
I am referring to the novel, it was first published in 1999, it was first published in ENGLISH in 2003. Yes itâs a different media, but itâs the root of Battle Royale, it was the first, and Iâm using it as an example to show that Battle Royale didnât just appear overnight. I was a year out with the game date, however theyâre all spin offs of the last man standing genre, weâve had those since the nineties. I believe Halo could have a very successful Battle Royale mode. Also I have stated in this thread that I donât want a PUBG or Fortnite with a Halo skin. We all have a view, and Iâm of the opinion Halo and Battle Royale would go hand in hand.
As for Battlefield, what EA âprobably thoughtâ about Battle Royale is speculation. The fact is, Battlefield V was dead after the reveal. Battle Royale was not the reason for the games demise. However, EA and Dice are reaping their just rewards imo. They donât get my cash this time, and I agree with your off topic paragraph.
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> > No it doesnât need to implement a BR mode. The community is very smart if they want a BR mode they will make it in forge and custom games. Halo 5 already has one. There is zero reason to allocate resources to a gamemode that was already made in Halo 5s custom games.
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> Forge is to limited to even make it work. Canât go over 16 players, canât adjust weapon functionality much, lacks any sense of progression that matchmaking has, it really isnât a viable option when people that want BR want a dedicated version, not something slapped together full of limitations and restrictions. Forge is good, but itâs not an answer to âyou want that mode go make itâ as it still isnât good enough to meet what people want, itâs why people tend to ask the devs themselves cause theyâre the ones with the tools to make it work. So to say âthereâs zero reasonâ would be wrong as some people donât want something that is essentially a poor manâs version of BR when compared to Dev made versions.
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> If people in Halo want BR, theyâd be better off hoping 343 goes vs their word and implements it or theyâre better off playing actual BR dedicated games.
Whilst i agree with you to a degree, They could just go on to halo Custom Edition get the required programs and create the game themselves, although i understand if people think they donât understand how to make a game, but realistically we have the internet the best tool in the modern age, so if you donât know you can always learn, but obviously not everyone has the time to try to learn how to mod in items, but you can just download one that has already been made, Iâve been doing this and it can really fill any sort of hole some of the newer games may have given, such as Halo 5âs campaign, if you donât like it download a modded campaign, new story, new gameplay, makes it amplify some of the best of the original series, vise versa.
I think a lackluster story will kill Halo before the refusal to implement a Battle Royale mode. I am not saying there should or should not be a BR mode, as I agree there has to be more engaging gametypes for Halo. Breakout was a promising new gametype but they ruined it for me when they updated it.
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> Iâd rather get banged by two Hunters than play Battle Royale in my Halo.
I mean I wouldnât go that far, thereâs always old Halo. I get your point though.
Is that what Halo is now? Oh, these other FPS ames have it Halo has to have it too. I donât know about you but, I want to play a game that is unique and different than any other game in the market.
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> > Halo isnât held back by nostalgia lol. Try itâs failure to do anything new and offering something unique, some BR mode wonât do that when itâs just going to end up being an oversaturated market, taking away BRs popularity as it thins out between franchises, effectively ending the trend it has started.
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> > I donât mind it being a tacked on mode, but it shouldnât be prioritized nor will it keep it relevant, how will it stay relevant once BR loses popularity? All you did was trend chase something that was popular and once itâs not popular you go back to being irrelevant because youâre not doing your own thing.
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> > âCoD and battlefield are doing itâ and has it proven itâs working? Itâs not even out yet and people have issues with them. CoD threw away a campaign for it, 
great way to piss people off. What will Halo sacrifice for it if they choose to add it?
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> The trend started with PUBG & is continuing with Fortnite and will keep going with CoD & BF. Internet loves to hate on popular games, so one can get a false image of how well the game is doing. Fortnite & PUBG remains Top 5 most played game on Xbox constantly despite the narrative meme pushed on the internet. Same for CoD, which internet loves to hate on, but campaign became irrelevant as majority of players skip it & go straight to multiplayer because it is amazing. Halo 1~4 's multiplayer does not appeal to younger audience, hence why it fails to gain new audience, addition of jetpack & dash is a needed improvement to bring Halo Multiplayer into todayâs standard. Addition to GamePass is great way to get others to try the game. When Halo Infiniti releases, majority of gamer will experienced BR mode on Fortnite, PUBG, CoD & BF. They will look for BR mode, instead of thinking why Halo have BR mode?
So let me get this straight. Just because one game started the trend. And a second game followed and now two more games are following. Means every game should do it? So halo should follow suit to. Meaning that every time I try to be highly competitive I have to go back to a main menu only to get back in game die agian and start from scratch? I think not. Honestly Halo dosent need another fad or trend to be added to it. Pre Reach halo was already unique enough. Reach - halo 5 built on and added to it yes. But it also changed the dynamic of the game. That dynamic dosent need any further changes. So no halo dosent need battle royal. And I refuse to give and or support any reason to give 343 a means of adding in this feature. What halo needs is a return to its classic mechanics. The way it was in halo 2 & 3. seeing as how were already getting classic art style and music. Id hope they follow through and bring back classic mechanics. But honestly this battle royal fad has got to go
P.S. The only br that I want to see in halo is a Battle Rifle
Halo isnt every other damn game you even attempt to put a battle Royal in I wont buy it at all thats that
Honestly, I would rather have them expand warzone and keep the concept then have a Battle Royale.
I think they need BR too, but do it in a Halo way. Make it dope, donât break the core game mechanics just for BR.
To everyone who doesnât want a BR mode - who cares? Donât play it. They arenât going to ditch standard multiplayer for BR, they are only going to expand the gameâs potential by grabbing new fans and new market share.
BR doesnât have to be any different than a multi-team, 1 life, BTB. It isnât some crazy game concept, and Halo is already equipped for it. They could literally just build upon Forge, then take all the new shiny tools in that sandbox and whip up a BR + a few extra BR focused elements.
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> I think they need BR too, but do it in a Halo way. Make it dope, donât break the core game mechanics just for BR.
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> To everyone who doesnât want a BR mode - who cares? Donât play it. They arenât going to ditch standard multiplayer for BR, they are only going to expand the gameâs potential by grabbing new fans and new market share.
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> BR doesnât have to be any different than a multi-team, 1 life, BTB. It isnât some crazy game concept, and Halo is already equipped for it. They could literally just build upon Forge, then take all the new shiny tools in that sandbox and whip up a BR + a few extra BR focused elements.
You have to understand, the public will think itâs just copying the trend, and that could be bad for Halo, besides the BR trend will probably be all fadded out (donât know if thatâs a word but I donât care) by the time infinite comes out. Halo needs to create something new, something like a massive pve or something like that, Halo needs to be Halo, not some average like CoD or Battlefield V. Halo set the standard for fps, and made it popular, infact Xbox made itâs entry through Halo, it needs to be creative, innovative, and it needs to be THE fps once more. So all you fortnite and PUBG boys can go back to your BR games. If you want BR go to Fortnite and PUBG, if you want true fps, go to Halo.
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> I think they need BR too, but do it in a Halo way. Make it dope, donât break the core game mechanics just for BR.
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> To everyone who doesnât want a BR mode - who cares? Donât play it. They arenât going to ditch standard multiplayer for BR, they are only going to expand the gameâs potential by grabbing new fans and new market share.
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> BR doesnât have to be any different than a multi-team, 1 life, BTB. It isnât some crazy game concept, and Halo is already equipped for it. They could literally just build upon Forge, then take all the new shiny tools in that sandbox and whip up a BR + a few extra BR focused elements.
Well if it is so easy and simple why donât you just wait for H:I and build it by yourself?
Why should 343i waste their personnel and time and resources for something that might cause more backlash than anything else?
IT doesnât need battle royale to be popular, it wouldnât be good and many fps are just copying it, halo shouldnât follow it.
I would rather have Warzone without Vehicles.
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> Not every fps needs a damn battle royale mode.Halo 4 copied trends and see how that went?
Please donât remind me, next weâre going to see Master Chief do the Elite Justice or some variant of it.
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> IT doesnât need battle royale to be popular, it wouldnât be good and many fps are just copying it, halo shouldnât follow it.
I agree it does not need a Battle Royale to be popular. However, you cannot say it would not be any good, just like nobody can say itâll be fantastic. Battle Royale is very popular, and some are not just copying it. Fortnite, Blackout and PUBG are the ones Iâve tried, theyâre all Battle Royale but all are different to play. I donât like Fortnite, Iâm not too keen on PUBG but I enjoy Blackout. I think a Halo Battle Royale would be interesting.
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> Halo Infinite needs Battle Royal mode to stay relevant & retain multiplayer player count. BR is not a fade, it will be one of expected mode to successful FPS going forward, even Call of Duty & Battlefield are implementing their own version of BR. Fortnite, as worldwide sensation is becoming one of first FPS they played for lot of audience, not to mention PUBG. That audience will eventually look for other similar games, CoD & BF is doing just that. If Halo does not have BR, they loss the opportunity to bring part of that huge & growing audience, which will be hard to ignore. Halo has a great opportunity to bring futuristic BR mode which no AAA game currently offers.
> One of main problems I see in Halo today is that it is held back by huge baggage of nostalgia, those modes that no longer is relevant & trying to appeal to older generation that no longer plays the game. Grief ball & addition of jet pack is prime example of this. Grief ball which community demanded to be added, which no one plays anyway & jetpack & dash that players hated, which turned out to be great addition to the game. If the game tries to appeal to the old & ignore the upcoming players, it will ultimately fail to capture enough audience to stay relevant.
The battle royale is a temporale game and over 2 years the Royale mode became dead