The only real definition we have is the business model of giving away the razor to sell the blades. Release game for free, fill it with microtransactions.
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I couldn’t agree more with this. Shame!
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Titanfall was the first game that popularized advanced movements.
And just about every major shooter started copying aspects of it, most notably crouch-sliding.
THANK GOD HALO 5 DIDN’T HAVE WALL RUNNING LIKE COD DID IN ADVANCED WARFARE THRU BLACK OPS 4.
Halo made shooters eligible for consoles, and thus many started copying aspects of it.
- Regenerative health in lieu of shields
- Two weapons and grenades instead of a bag of guns approach
- Optional vehicular combat
Copying aspects however sometimes goes too far.
Halo 4 is a prime example of that idea of “Lets be different!” going horribly wrong.
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Your only argument is crouch sliding but at that point that thruster system was built with that in mind. The trusters are in the lore. Was in halo 4. And it logically makes sense. Looking at the thrusters coming out the back. It made sense. The thruster would be the evolution of they tried to evolve it. They even markted the game with slid thrusting in their promo vids. Are you saying that games that try to do anything but the standard are bad? Because right now Halo infinites base gameplay is the same as all the other shooters. It’s a video game. I want to have fun in it. Why wouldn’t it evolve? You could even still make the argument that advanced movement is still here just broken up in pieces. So I don’t get this “ohhh Halo 5 followed the trends” when Halo infinite is doing exactly that.
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same, grew up playin 2, then ce, 3 and reach and i still had fun with 4
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Exactly. To some degree I had fun with all halos. Even infinite. I really don’t see why if you like one more than the other that your opinion Is some how less valid
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I cares 
Anyway just because you like something doesn’t mean a whole lot. Like I’m sure there’s a few hundred people that think Halo Spartan Assault is the best Halo game, but those people are weirdos and to not consider them as anything else is the problem.
Halo 4 (based off of every metric) was a huge failure. I’m glad that you and the other 5k people that stuck with Halo 4 after a few months appreciated it, but lets not pretend that Halo 4 was peak Halo lol. If you like loadouts and sprint and kill streaks then just play CoD, it has been doing that for 15 years and it even has a F2P game called CoD Warzone that you might be interested in.
Oh really? which ones?
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gatekeepin
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To get back on topic, can you answer this question?
What makes custom classes, perks, killstreaks, and killcams anything but a product of the 2010’s?
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Just because it exists in the lore DOESN’T mean it needs to be in the game.
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The MA5K is in the lore and yet that UNSC Carbine hasn’t been seen in the game.
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SPI Armor gave the UNSC a form of active-camo, but we never get to use it in any of the games
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Dozens of vehicles exist in the UNSC that we do not get to drive in the games.
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MJOLNIR Armor Variants do not give us buffs despite them being designed with a certain edge in mind. EOD and Grenadier do not make you resistant to explosives, nor does the Enigma helmet in Halo Infinite make your Scorpion get a stats boost because you are wearing a helmet that enhances your tank useage.
That is a good thing honestly.
Grappling hooks are optional advances to mobility at the cost of a shield you can drop down to provide cover for yourself and your team.
Thrusters still exist, but it is now a resource to be managed rather than a built-in ability that everyone has to avoid snipers from getting a good headshot or to avoid a splatter.
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thats weird
yeah it does, thats all that matters. i dont care what other people think of 4, infinite or any other halo game. all i care about is what i think
or you can just see them as people with an opinion and move on
never said it was
no cause the weapons, armor customization, sci fi style halo has is way cooler. why dont you just stop complainin people dont think the same way about halo you do instead?
i know its garbage and i hate it
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As of right now most modern shooters have the Sprint,slide,clamber gameplay. Call of duty. Battlefield. You name it. This is their base gameplay. I come to Halo to get away from that. In classic Halo this wasn’t the base game play. Classic Halo was my escape from that gameplay. Halo 5 improved upon this gameplay and made it work for Halo. Halo 5 was still my escape from the regular Sprint,slide,clamber game play.
I thought Halo infinite was ganna be classic. I was actually surprised when the gameplay demo showed Sprint. If anything I thought the great Halo reboot would have no Sprint Halo but I guess that’s to much to ask for. Aside from no Sprint Halo I would’ve liked to see something new. Something never tried before. An advancement on the thruster system could’ve been just that. They could’ve turned the ground pound and spartan charge into thruster moves. But again. No one likes fun. They just want to sit on the Fence and play a “in the middle” Halo. It’s so teasing. Like games identity should just pick a side and stop trying to please both
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What your saying is true but stupid in terms of the conclusion you came to.
“Halo Infinite is generic because of advanced movements abilities so lets add more like Halo 5”
You must be new then.
What you are attributing as a “fun” mechanic is not core Halo. Advanced movement options just take away from basic things like pickups because why bother picking up a Sword for example when you can just spartan charge somebody? They are insidious mechanics that only detract from Halo’s core formula.
Halo Infinite ‘works’ as a Halo game because everybody isn’t spawning with insanely OP abilities or weapons, so its sandbox can actually shine. I venture a guess that the grapplehook/repulsor would’ve gotten a completely different reception if everybody could just do essentially the same off of spawn in the first place. This is not me saying that I like the “new” mechanics like clamber or sprint or slide, just that these mechanics aren’t as detrimental to the formula as they were in 5 or previous.
Put it this way. I’m bored when I play Halo infinite. My friends get bored of it too and it’s not just the content. It’s just the same repetitive gameplay over and over again. Sure it feels good to shoot and move around. It is a “Halo” game in that sense but the overall experience is boring. There is many other people outside of this fourm that say it too. That the gameplay for Halo 5 was more “fun”.
At the end of the day I want close together maps more than anything. I miss gaurdain style maps. Natrual. Tight routes. You can’t do do this with Sprint.
Also I’m not even saying Halo infinite should drastically change. What I will say is that HCS should be its own thing entirely. There should be maps, weapon sets, movement. Everything, all tailored to HCS only. Then the rest of the game could be something else
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halo 4 is not cod. Its worse than cod because its some frankenstein monster.
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“Like games identity should just pick a side and stop trying to please both”
Translation:
“They should’ve given me what I wanted instead of what the majority clearly like.”
youre a minority. halo 5 is not a good game for the average joe. halo infinite is for the average joe, however it also has competition and infinite doesn’t offer enough to compete
Actually the majority would want no Sprint Halo which is exactly what that statement was for. On one end you have classic gameplay and the other hand you have Halo 5s movement. I would argue that a classic no Sprint Halo would’ve done just fine and it was what I was originally expecting.
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Except there has been plenty of posts here that say this game is too competitive. If you so much as press the Sprint button. Your sweating. If you Sprint slide. Your sweating. The reason why classic Halo was causal was because all you had to do was move your stick forward. You didn’t have to press anything extra to move. Idk if you seen the sliding people are doing in infinite but Halo infinite is not for the average Joe. Classic is. Halo 5 isn’t for the average Joe either but it’s the best version of HCS and should be what HCS is
The rest of the game should be classic
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