Halo infinite- Elites in Firefight :)

Games Halo Infinite
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So, I’m like, 90 percent positive that Elites will return in this game, and in full force (Meaning: Able to play in all Social gamemodes like Infection, Grifball, CORE Team Slayer, and Stuff like that including Invasion)… I wanted to discuss something of interest and I’m sure this has been brought up before BUT, I really hope you can be an Elite in Firefight, but not fighting AGAINST humans and your friends, BUT rather WITH them.

Considering Elites are going to be in the game from what I can tell so far (Although not confirmed, but highly likely considering that MASS demand for them to return for obvious reasons) It would be very easy to put them in a simple gamemode like Firefight. Wouldn’t be very difficult especially if they have Elites programmed to be playable in the game period and most gamemodes. With that being said… What do you think? Do you think Elites will be playable in Firefight to help your fellow Human Allies and maybe even… Lovers?! LOL

On a serious note though: Please don’t give the BS excuse that players would mistake an Elite in this gamemode for an enemy AI, because that’s why they have Waypoint markers and the Service tag showing, On top of that, people have asked about fighting indies in this gamemode anyways…

Tell me what you all think :3
I would love to be a -Yoink!- Sangheili fighting alongside humanity :3

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343i’s approach to in-lore justification for multi-player modes (Warzone and War Games being “training exercises” for Spartan IV’s) has made justifying playable Elites difficult. I think it’s possible this could change depending on whether: A) 343i backs off on the canonical multi-player approach, or: B) The story of Infinite sees a broader culmination of Human and Sanghelli military efforts than ever before, including Halo 3.

I think that could be a cool way to go with the story; especially if the efforts for Human and Sanghelli unification are spearheaded by Chief and the Arbiter, once again fighting back-to-back. However-- I don’t see why this is an especially likely couese of action for the campaign to follow. There has to date been no indication that 343i is placing any additional emphasis on Sanghelli in Infinite as opposed to in Halo 4-5; the redesigned look of the Sanghelli is just one aspect of a much broader initiative to call back to the aesthetic roots of Halo, as first seem with Chief’s extremely MkVI reminiscent armor in the announcement trailer from E3 '18.

I also don’t know that 343i is willing to back off of their “multi-player is a training simulation,” stance. In my opinion, the decision to justify multi-player as an in-Lore reality was, from the start, a well-intentioned bad idea. The closest Bungie ever came to this was Infection in Halo: Reach, but even that felt distinct and not literally connected to the actual Halo continuity. Early Red vs Blue is the perfect example of what the tone of Halo MP was in comparison to the Campaigns; where the campaigns provided an immersive and awesome sci-fi universe to explore and shape, the multi-player provided a playground of destruction that allowed you and your friends to goof around for hours without any need to justify the actions happening aside from the fact that it was fun.

War Games and Warzone have completely tonally messed with the traditional Halo Campaign/Multiplayer dynamic. But, it’s also difficult to put that genie back in the bottle.

What I’m saying is that ultimately I’m not at all sure that Sanghelli will make a return as a playable option in Infinite. While I’m for it, I don’t think any of the above avenues for it to happen are especially likely to pan out in favor of the vocal minority of players who really, really want playable Elites back.

Additionally, and this is something I’m personally very disappointed in, there’s also no firm indication that Firefight (in the traditional ODST and Reach vein) will be coming back, either. The last game to feature playable Elites and proper Firefight was Reach, and that was released nearly ten years ago. I hope they bring back these features in Infinite very much, but I’m not counting on either of them- let alone both of them- for sure coming back.

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> 343i’s approach to in-lore justification for multi-player modes (Warzone and War Games being “training exercises” for Spartan IV’s) has made justifying playable Elites difficult. I think it’s possible this could change depending on whether: A) 343i backs off on the canonical multi-player approach, or: B) The story of Infinite sees a broader culmination of Human and Sanghelli military efforts than ever before, including Halo 3.
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> I think that could be a cool way to go with the story; especially if the efforts for Human and Sanghelli unification are spearheaded by Chief and the Arbiter, once again fighting back-to-back. However-- I don’t see why this is an especially likely couese of action for the campaign to follow. There has to date been no indication that 343i is placing any additional emphasis on Sanghelli in Infinite as opposed to in Halo 4-5; the redesigned look of the Sanghelli is just one aspect of a much broader initiative to call back to the aesthetic roots of Halo, as first seem with Chief’s extremely MkVI reminiscent armor in the announcement trailer from E3 '18.
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> I also don’t know that 343i is willing to back off of their “multi-player is a training simulation,” stance. In my opinion, the decision to justify multi-player as an in-Lore reality was, from the start, a well-intentioned bad idea. The closest Bungie ever came to this was Infection in Halo: Reach, but even that felt distinct and not literally connected to the actual Halo continuity. Early Red vs Blue is the perfect example of what the tone of Halo MP was in comparison to the Campaigns; where the campaigns provided an immersive and awesome sci-fi universe to explore and shape, the multi-player provided a playground of destruction that allowed you and your friends to goof around for hours without any need to justify the actions happening aside from the fact that it was fun. War Games and Warzone have completely tonally messed with the traditional Halo Campaign/Multiplayer dynamic. But, it’s also difficult to put that genie back in the bottle.
>
> What I’m saying is that ultimately I’m not at all sure that Sanghelli will make a return as a playable option in Infinite. While I’m for it, I don’t think any of the above avenues for it to happen are especially likely to pan out in favor of the vocal minority of players who really, really want playable Elites back.
>
> Additionally, and this is something I’m personally very disappointed in, there’s also no firm indication that Firefight (in the traditional ODST and Reach vein) will be coming back, either. The last game to feature playable Elites and proper Firefight was Reach, and that was released nearly ten years ago. I hope they bring back these features in Infinite very much, but I’m not counting on either of them- let alone both of them- for sure coming back.

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> 343i’s approach to in-lore justification for multi-player modes (Warzone and War Games being “training exercises” for Spartan IV’s) has made justifying playable Elites difficult. I think it’s possible this could change depending on whether: A) 343i backs off on the canonical multi-player approach, or: B) The story of Infinite sees a broader culmination of Human and Sanghelli military efforts than ever before, including Halo 3.
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> I think that could be a cool way to go with the story; especially if the efforts for Human and Sanghelli unification are spearheaded by Chief and the Arbiter, once again fighting back-to-back. However-- I don’t see why this is an especially likely couese of action for the campaign to follow. There has to date been no indication that 343i is placing any additional emphasis on Sanghelli in Infinite as opposed to in Halo 4-5; the redesigned look of the Sanghelli is just one aspect of a much broader initiative to call back to the aesthetic roots of Halo, as first seem with Chief’s extremely MkVI reminiscent armor in the announcement trailer from E3 '18.
>
> I also don’t know that 343i is willing to back off of their “multi-player is a training simulation,” stance. In my opinion, the decision to justify multi-player as an in-Lore reality was, from the start, a well-intentioned bad idea. The closest Bungie ever came to this was Infection in Halo: Reach, but even that felt distinct and not literally connected to the actual Halo continuity. Early Red vs Blue is the perfect example of what the tone of Halo MP was in comparison to the Campaigns; where the campaigns provided an immersive and awesome sci-fi universe to explore and shape, the multi-player provided a playground of destruction that allowed you and your friends to goof around for hours without any need to justify the actions happening aside from the fact that it was fun. War Games and Warzone have completely tonally messed with the traditional Halo Campaign/Multiplayer dynamic. But, it’s also difficult to put that genie back in the bottle.
>
> What I’m saying is that ultimately I’m not at all sure that Sanghelli will make a return as a playable option in Infinite. While I’m for it, I don’t think any of the above avenues for it to happen are especially likely to pan out in favor of the vocal minority of players who really, really want playable Elites back.
>
> Additionally, and this is something I’m personally very disappointed in, there’s also no firm indication that Firefight (in the traditional ODST and Reach vein) will be coming back, either. The last game to feature playable Elites and proper Firefight was Reach, and that was released nearly ten years ago. I hope they bring back these features in Infinite very much, but I’m not counting on either of them- let alone both of them- for sure coming back.

I’m a little confused at your point… This post is meant to be simple… not reply with an Article. Also this entirely your opinion… Some it seems a bit delusional and over written. May I remind you… this is a video game. They don’t need to justify anything regardless of lore or history… In terms of playable Elites and Elites in Firefight… Just bring em back… Simply put… Millions of people want them to return, and judging from recent news for Infinite it is heavily implied that They will return. Also Elites have been with he franchise since the beginning… Take a breath lad and take step back and remember to not lose yourself XD

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> I’m a little confused at your point… This post is meant to be simple… not reply with an Article. Also this entirely your opinion… Some it seems a bit delusional and over written. May I remind you… this is a video game. They don’t need to justify anything regardless of lore or history… In terms of playable Elites and Elites in Firefight… Just bring em back… Simply put… Millions of people want them to return, and judging from recent news for Infinite it is heavily implied that They will return. Also Elites have been with he franchise since the beginning… Take a breath lad and take step back and remember to not lose yourself XD

First off, Sorry for how long winded my initial response was. I enjoy writing a lot and sometimes get carried away trying to reinforce my ideas. However, I have to take exception to you claiming that everything in that response was all “entirely” my opinion; basically, my opinion is that 343i hasn’t indicated to us that playable Elites are especially likely to make a comeback in Infinite; despite what I hope I made clear is my personal preference, which is that they do. I’ve been a major proponent of bringing back ODST/Reach style Firefight in Infinite as well- but, like with playable Elites, there’s really been nothing i can point to that indicates that 343 is (or isn’t) making moves towards bringing it back.

The bulk of my initial response wasn’t my opinion, but observations and supporting evidence for that opinion including the canonical state of multiplayer since Halo 4 and how that contrasts with the earlier Bungie games that featured playable Elites. It wasn’t my intention to personally attack you, I was just trying to put up a counterpoint to your assertion that there has been implicit indication from 343i that playable Elites are happening in Infinite. I just don’t see the evidence to support that claim- but if you have additional evidence to cite supporting it, I’d be thrilled to hear it. Honestly, again, I’d like to see playable Elites back too. Just trying to keep speculation from running away with itself. It is “Just a game,” i agree. That’s the problem with 343i having tried to overhype the multiplayer by making it a canonical extension of the lore, which is one of the contributing factors in my opinion to why the multiplayer in Halo has been on a steady decline through the 343 era.

Sorry again for the “article” response- I understand that reading through those can be grating for some forum-goers.

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It shouldn’t be an issue, the elites are allied with the UNSC if another form of the covenant returns it would only make sense for elites to fight against them alongside spartans.

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> > I’m a little confused at your point… This post is meant to be simple… not reply with an Article. Also this entirely your opinion… Some it seems a bit delusional and over written. May I remind you… this is a video game. They don’t need to justify anything regardless of lore or history… In terms of playable Elites and Elites in Firefight… Just bring em back… Simply put… Millions of people want them to return, and judging from recent news for Infinite it is heavily implied that They will return. Also Elites have been with he franchise since the beginning… Take a breath lad and take step back and remember to not lose yourself XD
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> First off, Sorry for how long winded my initial response was. I enjoy writing a lot and sometimes get carried away trying to reinforce my ideas. However, I have to take exception to you claiming that everything in that response was all “entirely” my opinion; basically, my opinion is that 343i hasn’t indicated to us that playable Elites are especially likely to make a comeback in Infinite; despite what I hope I made clear is my personal preference, which is that they do. I’ve been a major proponent of bringing back ODST/Reach style Firefight in Infinite as well- but, like with playable Elites, there’s really been nothing i can point to that indicates that 343 is (or isn’t) making moves towards bringing it back.
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> The bulk of my initial response wasn’t my opinion, but observations and supporting evidence for that opinion including the canonical state of multiplayer since Halo 4 and how that contrasts with the earlier Bungie games that featured playable Elites. It wasn’t my intention to personally attack you, I was just trying to put up a counterpoint to your assertion that there has been implicit indication from 343i that playable Elites are happening in Infinite. I just don’t see the evidence to support that claim- but if you have additional evidence to cite supporting it, I’d be thrilled to hear it. Honestly, again, I’d like to see playable Elites back too. Just trying to keep speculation from running away with itself. It is “Just a game,” i agree. That’s the problem with 343i having tried to overhype the multiplayer by making it a canonical extension of the lore, which is one of the contributing factors in my opinion to why the multiplayer in Halo has been on a steady decline through the 343 era.
>
> Sorry again for the “article” response- I understand that reading through those can be grating for some forum-goers.

It doesn’t matter if they have made indications… again, this is your opinion… People have actually made some pretty valid points about the probability that they will return and there is sufficient reason to believe they will. You just gotta look

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It would be nice but then again they might just do what they did on reach, then again its set 9 years after reach so it may be possible.

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> > > I’m a little confused at your point… This post is meant to be simple… not reply with an Article. Also this entirely your opinion… Some it seems a bit delusional and over written. May I remind you… this is a video game. They don’t need to justify anything regardless of lore or history… In terms of playable Elites and Elites in Firefight… Just bring em back… Simply put… Millions of people want them to return, and judging from recent news for Infinite it is heavily implied that They will return. Also Elites have been with he franchise since the beginning… Take a breath lad and take step back and remember to not lose yourself XD
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> > First off, Sorry for how long winded my initial response was. I enjoy writing a lot and sometimes get carried away trying to reinforce my ideas. However, I have to take exception to you claiming that everything in that response was all “entirely” my opinion; basically, my opinion is that 343i hasn’t indicated to us that playable Elites are especially likely to make a comeback in Infinite; despite what I hope I made clear is my personal preference, which is that they do. I’ve been a major proponent of bringing back ODST/Reach style Firefight in Infinite as well- but, like with playable Elites, there’s really been nothing i can point to that indicates that 343 is (or isn’t) making moves towards bringing it back.
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> > The bulk of my initial response wasn’t my opinion, but observations and supporting evidence for that opinion including the canonical state of multiplayer since Halo 4 and how that contrasts with the earlier Bungie games that featured playable Elites. It wasn’t my intention to personally attack you, I was just trying to put up a counterpoint to your assertion that there has been implicit indication from 343i that playable Elites are happening in Infinite. I just don’t see the evidence to support that claim- but if you have additional evidence to cite supporting it, I’d be thrilled to hear it. Honestly, again, I’d like to see playable Elites back too. Just trying to keep speculation from running away with itself. It is “Just a game,” i agree. That’s the problem with 343i having tried to overhype the multiplayer by making it a canonical extension of the lore, which is one of the contributing factors in my opinion to why the multiplayer in Halo has been on a steady decline through the 343 era.
> >
> > Sorry again for the “article” response- I understand that reading through those can be grating for some forum-goers.
>
> It doesn’t matter if they have made indications… again, this is your opinion… People have actually made some pretty valid points about the probability that they will return and there is sufficient reason to believe they will. You just gotta look

I had intended to make it clear that my opinion in this case made up the minority of my response, with the vast majority of it being reinforcement by way of evidenciary support for that opinion.

What you’ve been doing is asserting your opinion without reinforcing it with anything but unsubstantiated assertions that (Paraphrasing here) “there are millions of players who want Elites back,” and that “343i has basically confirmed that Elites will be playable in Infinite”.

It’s not my opinion that 343i has made multi-player canonical. It is my opinion that it created a tonal shift in Halo MP communities, but I’d say that is a relatively well substantiated opinion.

To the best of my knowledge, it’s also not my opinion, but a fact that 343i has not confirmed beyond the shadow of a reasonable doubt that Elites will make a playable return in Infinite.

It’s fine that you want them to come back; again, I want them to come back as well. But you’ve got to substantiate your claims with reasonable evidence or they’re just speculation. Speculation is fine, too, but speculation isn’t asserting that something will almost for sure happen that hasn’t been at all confirmed.

Do you see what I mean? I’ve said all I have to say about this topic, and it wasn’t my intention to come in and rain on the parade of folks who want playable Elites to return (one more time, I’m in favor of this myself). I just made a counterpoint to what I saw as a poorly evidenced claim that it was likely/confirmed/etc. when I haven’t seen anything to confirm that.

So again, please share your evidence to support the idea that there’s been an implicit confirmation for playable Elites in Infinite, because I’d love to have that confirmed as well. But don’t call me out for just throwing an “opinion” out there when I’ve gone to lengths to try and reinforce that opinion with evidence.

If you’re just speculating for fun, I’ve got no problem with that either. It’s just important to avoud using superlatives (“they’ve basically confirmed” and so on) when you’re just speculating on a site a lot of folks look to for news on Infinite.

Again, I’m happy to break bread on this issue and agree to disagree. I’m just not going to back down on the idea that my prior responses constituted “just an opinion,” when I’ve cited several supporting points.

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> > > > I’m a little confused at your point… This post is meant to be simple… not reply with an Article. Also this entirely your opinion… Some it seems a bit delusional and over written. May I remind you… this is a video game. They don’t need to justify anything regardless of lore or history… In terms of playable Elites and Elites in Firefight… Just bring em back… Simply put… Millions of people want them to return, and judging from recent news for Infinite it is heavily implied that They will return. Also Elites have been with he franchise since the beginning… Take a breath lad and take step back and remember to not lose yourself XD
> > >
> > > First off, Sorry for how long winded my initial response was. I enjoy writing a lot and sometimes get carried away trying to reinforce my ideas. However, I have to take exception to you claiming that everything in that response was all “entirely” my opinion; basically, my opinion is that 343i hasn’t indicated to us that playable Elites are especially likely to make a comeback in Infinite; despite what I hope I made clear is my personal preference, which is that they do. I’ve been a major proponent of bringing back ODST/Reach style Firefight in Infinite as well- but, like with playable Elites, there’s really been nothing i can point to that indicates that 343 is (or isn’t) making moves towards bringing it back.
> > >
> > > The bulk of my initial response wasn’t my opinion, but observations and supporting evidence for that opinion including the canonical state of multiplayer since Halo 4 and how that contrasts with the earlier Bungie games that featured playable Elites. It wasn’t my intention to personally attack you, I was just trying to put up a counterpoint to your assertion that there has been implicit indication from 343i that playable Elites are happening in Infinite. I just don’t see the evidence to support that claim- but if you have additional evidence to cite supporting it, I’d be thrilled to hear it. Honestly, again, I’d like to see playable Elites back too. Just trying to keep speculation from running away with itself. It is “Just a game,” i agree. That’s the problem with 343i having tried to overhype the multiplayer by making it a canonical extension of the lore, which is one of the contributing factors in my opinion to why the multiplayer in Halo has been on a steady decline through the 343 era.
> > >
> > > Sorry again for the “article” response- I understand that reading through those can be grating for some forum-goers.
> >
> > It doesn’t matter if they have made indications… again, this is your opinion… People have actually made some pretty valid points about the probability that they will return and there is sufficient reason to believe they will. You just gotta look
>
> I had intended to make it clear that my opinion in this case made up the minority of my response, with the vast majority of it being reinforcement by way of evidenciary support for that opinion.
>
> What you’ve been doing is asserting your opinion without reinforcing it with anything but unsubstantiated assertions that (Paraphrasing here) “there are millions of players who want Elites back,” and that “343i has basically confirmed that Elites will be playable in Infinite”.
>
> It’s not my opinion that 343i has made multi-player canonical. It is my opinion that it created a tonal shift in Halo MP communities, but I’d say that is a relatively well substantiated opinion.
>
> To the best of my knowledge, it’s also not my opinion, but a fact that 343i has not confirmed beyond the shadow of a reasonable doubt that Elites will make a playable return in Infinite.
>
> It’s fine that you want them to come back; again, I want them to come back as well. But you’ve got to substantiate your claims with reasonable evidence or they’re just speculation. Speculation is fine, too, but speculation isn’t asserting that something will almost for sure happen that hasn’t been at all confirmed.
>
> Do you see what I mean? I’ve said all I have to say about this topic, and it wasn’t my intention to come in and rain on the parade of folks who want playable Elites to return (one more time, I’m in favor of this myself). I just made a counterpoint to what I saw as a poorly evidenced claim that it was likely/confirmed/etc. when I haven’t seen anything to confirm that.
>
> So again, please share your evidence to support the idea that there’s been an implicit confirmation for playable Elites in Infinite, because I’d love to have that confirmed as well. But don’t call me out for just throwing an “opinion” out there when I’ve gone to lengths to try and reinforce that opinion with evidence.
>
> If you’re just speculating for fun, I’ve got no problem with that either. It’s just important to avoud using superlatives (“they’ve basically confirmed” and so on) when you’re just speculating on a site a lot of folks look to for news on Infinite.
>
> Again, I’m happy to break bread on this issue and agree to disagree. I’m just not going to back down on the idea that my prior responses constituted “just an opinion,” when I’ve cited several supporting points.

And I’m gonna simply say… why are you writing these massive articles? I didn’t even confirm anything to begin with. Your just one of those people that feel the need to correct me on something as if it’s factional even though it’s not, and I still don’t understand why you are making these replies… I think you might be a bit over sensitive or something man.

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> > > > I’m a little confused at your point… This post is meant to be simple… not reply with an Article. Also this entirely your opinion… Some it seems a bit delusional and over written. May I remind you… this is a video game. They don’t need to justify anything regardless of lore or history… In terms of playable Elites and Elites in Firefight… Just bring em back… Simply put… Millions of people want them to return, and judging from recent news for Infinite it is heavily implied that They will return. Also Elites have been with he franchise since the beginning… Take a breath lad and take step back and remember to not lose yourself XD
> > >
> > > First off, Sorry for how long winded my initial response was. I enjoy writing a lot and sometimes get carried away trying to reinforce my ideas. However, I have to take exception to you claiming that everything in that response was all “entirely” my opinion; basically, my opinion is that 343i hasn’t indicated to us that playable Elites are especially likely to make a comeback in Infinite; despite what I hope I made clear is my personal preference, which is that they do. I’ve been a major proponent of bringing back ODST/Reach style Firefight in Infinite as well- but, like with playable Elites, there’s really been nothing i can point to that indicates that 343 is (or isn’t) making moves towards bringing it back.
> > >
> > > The bulk of my initial response wasn’t my opinion, but observations and supporting evidence for that opinion including the canonical state of multiplayer since Halo 4 and how that contrasts with the earlier Bungie games that featured playable Elites. It wasn’t my intention to personally attack you, I was just trying to put up a counterpoint to your assertion that there has been implicit indication from 343i that playable Elites are happening in Infinite. I just don’t see the evidence to support that claim- but if you have additional evidence to cite supporting it, I’d be thrilled to hear it. Honestly, again, I’d like to see playable Elites back too. Just trying to keep speculation from running away with itself. It is “Just a game,” i agree. That’s the problem with 343i having tried to overhype the multiplayer by making it a canonical extension of the lore, which is one of the contributing factors in my opinion to why the multiplayer in Halo has been on a steady decline through the 343 era.
> > >
> > > Sorry again for the “article” response- I understand that reading through those can be grating for some forum-goers.
> >
> > It doesn’t matter if they have made indications… again, this is your opinion… People have actually made some pretty valid points about the probability that they will return and there is sufficient reason to believe they will. You just gotta look
>
> I had intended to make it clear that my opinion in this case made up the minority of my response, with the vast majority of it being reinforcement by way of evidenciary support for that opinion.
>
> What you’ve been doing is asserting your opinion without reinforcing it with anything but unsubstantiated assertions that (Paraphrasing here) “there are millions of players who want Elites back,” and that “343i has basically confirmed that Elites will be playable in Infinite”.
>
> It’s not my opinion that 343i has made multi-player canonical. It is my opinion that it created a tonal shift in Halo MP communities, but I’d say that is a relatively well substantiated opinion.
>
> To the best of my knowledge, it’s also not my opinion, but a fact that 343i has not confirmed beyond the shadow of a reasonable doubt that Elites will make a playable return in Infinite.
>
> It’s fine that you want them to come back; again, I want them to come back as well. But you’ve got to substantiate your claims with reasonable evidence or they’re just speculation. Speculation is fine, too, but speculation isn’t asserting that something will almost for sure happen that hasn’t been at all confirmed.
>
> Do you see what I mean? I’ve said all I have to say about this topic, and it wasn’t my intention to come in and rain on the parade of folks who want playable Elites to return (one more time, I’m in favor of this myself). I just made a counterpoint to what I saw as a poorly evidenced claim that it was likely/confirmed/etc. when I haven’t seen anything to confirm that.
>
> So again, please share your evidence to support the idea that there’s been an implicit confirmation for playable Elites in Infinite, because I’d love to have that confirmed as well. But don’t call me out for just throwing an “opinion” out there when I’ve gone to lengths to try and reinforce that opinion with evidence.
>
> If you’re just speculating for fun, I’ve got no problem with that either. It’s just important to avoud using superlatives (“they’ve basically confirmed” and so on) when you’re just speculating on a site a lot of folks look to for news on Infinite.
>
> Again, I’m happy to break bread on this issue and agree to disagree. I’m just not going to back down on the idea that my prior responses constituted “just an opinion,” when I’ve cited several supporting points.

Dude I get what you’re saying but you act like this post was meant to be something that has some form of demographic or statistics or evidence. In the points that I made in my original post were based off of points made by halo follower and other content creators like act man that I have watched in the past. My own experience as well comes into the fold here as well with my 15+ years playing this franchise. Not a lot of people pay attention to detail but I did. I remember specifically back in the days of Halo 3, Reach and even Halo 2, that almost every game I went into out of eight or 10 people there was almost always one or two elite players. That’s a pretty big ratio in terms of their demand. (It was almost rare to not have an elite player in a public match at the time) It has also been stated by certain sources that The demand for them to return has skyrocketed since they have been removed. All I’m saying in this post is that from my own experience and attention to detail as well as points that have been made by other content creators or sources on the Internet is that it’s not only highly likely that Elites will return in halo infinite but also that there are more than likely millions of people who use this feature. Especially with the combination of PC. And just a little sidenote I’ve noticed that people on PC in terms of gaming like their diversity quite a bit. For them it’s gonna be a bit confusing to have playable elites in MCC but not in infinite. Although I will admit you do have a point the dark shadowy glue that Elites may not be in infinite is very possible as well. Let us pray however that, that doesn’t happen.

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This is all I was looking for-- a little more logical evidenciary support for the claims being made. I can appreciate there’s demand for Elites to come back–I think it’s debatable how much demand, really, but it certainly exists. Again, I’m one of the people who wants to see the option make a comeback.

I’m long-winded, as explained before, but all I’ve been trying to do is cite supporting logic and evidence that plays Devil’s advocate to an assumption that Elites will come back–if I had to put money down today, I would guess they do not, unfortunately. Again, that’s just based on my own knowledge of the franchise and my interpretations of what I’ve cited above.

But one last time, I’m with you on wanting them back; The more options for players in terms of personalization, the better. I hope 343i surprises me on this one for sure.

At this point we’re disagreeing more about how we’re disagreeing than the actual meat of either of our arguments, though. Let’s hope that aside from either of our arguments for or against the probability that they will come back, Elites do make a playable return in Infinite.

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> This is all I was looking for-- a little more logical evidenciary support for the claims being made. I can appreciate there’s demand for Elites to come back–I think it’s debatable how much demand, really, but it certainly exists. Again, I’m one of the people who wants to see the option make a comeback.
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> I’m long-winded, as explained before, but all I’ve been trying to do is cite supporting logic and evidence that plays Devil’s advocate to an assumption that Elites will come back–if I had to put money down today, I would guess they do not, unfortunately. Again, that’s just based on my own knowledge of the franchise and my interpretations of what I’ve cited above.
>
> But one last time, I’m with you on wanting them back; The more options for players in terms of personalization, the better. I hope 343i surprises me on this one for sure.
>
> At this point we’re disagreeing more about how we’re disagreeing than the actual meat of either of our arguments, though. Let’s hope that aside from either of our arguments for or against the probability that they will come back, Elites do make a playable return in Infinite.

I still don’t get why you think they won’t come back… The demand is huge… even mentioned by Halo Follower and even in Interviews with 343i, they specifically say that the Demand for them to return has literally skyrocketed… And I quote… What sources are you looking at?

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> This is all I was looking for-- a little more logical evidenciary support for the claims being made. I can appreciate there’s demand for Elites to come back–I think it’s debatable how much demand, really, but it certainly exists. Again, I’m one of the people who wants to see the option make a comeback.
>
> I’m long-winded, as explained before, but all I’ve been trying to do is cite supporting logic and evidence that plays Devil’s advocate to an assumption that Elites will come back–if I had to put money down today, I would guess they do not, unfortunately. Again, that’s just based on my own knowledge of the franchise and my interpretations of what I’ve cited above.
>
> But one last time, I’m with you on wanting them back; The more options for players in terms of personalization, the better. I hope 343i surprises me on this one for sure.
>
> At this point we’re disagreeing more about how we’re disagreeing than the actual meat of either of our arguments, though. Let’s hope that aside from either of our arguments for or against the probability that they will come back, Elites do make a playable return in Infinite.

I mean… In a way… I doubt it too… Which is why I plan on leaving the Halo Franchise… But I have to hope… for something good next gen… there has to be something in this nature specifically… and to be clear, I care about Halo beyond elites… But after what we know so far… I don’t think issues in terms of gameplay or artstyle or even story is going to be a problem… Which is why my focus is so heavy on elites… Perhaps you are right… Maybe I should just leave now and save myself the heartbreak… In fact… Imma make another post

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Normally I’d be against all forms of Elites in MP returning, but it’d be cool for Firefight. I’d also be cool with them being in Invasion, Dominion, and maybe even Crusades.

Speaking of Crusades, can we actually have that? I swear, I’d literally only play that and Firefight.

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> Normally I’d be against all forms of Elites in MP returning, but it’d be cool for Firefight. I’d also be cool with them being in Invasion, Dominion, and maybe even Crusades.
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> Speaking of Crusades, can we actually have that? I swear, I’d literally only play that and Firefight.

The -Yoink- is wrong with you? Your against all forms of elites returning? That is a bit extreme dude. That is quite the colorful opinion. I mean damn dude… thank god your not a gave developer for Halo

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> > Normally I’d be against all forms of Elites in MP returning, but it’d be cool for Firefight. I’d also be cool with them being in Invasion, Dominion, and maybe even Crusades.
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> > Speaking of Crusades, can we actually have that? I swear, I’d literally only play that and Firefight.
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> The -Yoink- is wrong with you? Your against all forms of elites returning? That is a bit extreme dude. That is quite the colorful opinion. I mean damn dude… thank god your not a gave developer for Halo

I see that you have negative levels of reading comprehension.

I said that I’m normally against Elites returning, but it’d be cool for specific game modes. I do not want Elites in Social or Competitive Arena, but I’d like them in Warzone-type game modes like Firefight, Invasion, and Dominion.

I remember the Halo 3 days, when Elites were chosen because people thought that they were harder to get headshots on. People believed it, so it was. It was not a fun time.

You also had the most melodramatic post before mine. So, if Halo Infinite had an amazing campaign, great multiplayer, and tons of content but no Elites then you would leave the franchise? Who’s “a bit extreme” now?

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> > > Normally I’d be against all forms of Elites in MP returning, but it’d be cool for Firefight. I’d also be cool with them being in Invasion, Dominion, and maybe even Crusades.
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> > > Speaking of Crusades, can we actually have that? I swear, I’d literally only play that and Firefight.
> >
> > The -Yoink- is wrong with you? Your against all forms of elites returning? That is a bit extreme dude. That is quite the colorful opinion. I mean damn dude… thank god your not a gave developer for Halo
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> I see that you have negative levels of reading comprehension.
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> I said that I’m normally against Elites returning, but it’d be cool for specific game modes. I do not want Elites in Social or Competitive Arena, but I’d like them in Warzone-type game modes like Firefight, Invasion, and Dominion.
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> I remember the Halo 3 days, when Elites were chosen because people thought that they were harder to get headshots on. People believed it, so it was. It was not a fun time.
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> You also had the most melodramatic post before mine. So, if Halo Infinite had an amazing campaign, great multiplayer, and tons of content but no Elites then you would leave the franchise? Who’s “a bit extreme” now?

I think they should add playable elite to the game in any mode as adding ability’s that can match a Spartans is pretty easy in terms of ideas, we see elites jumping around using jetpacks and rolling fairly often in the other halos so would it be that hard to add a form of upgrade to the elites as well allowing them to do the same things the Spartans can do. Spartans aren’t stronger than elites just made to be equal in ability, until halo five where enhanced mobility came into play

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I’d say the great schism is the perfect opportunity for this to take place canonically, and given that the Swords of Sanghelios are on humanity’s side, it would make perfect sense to have them help out on a flood outbreak or promethean standoff.

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The community has been asking for playable elites for years upon years now, it’d be a shame if 343 omitted them from yet another game.

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Would be good in firefigth but better if they bring invasion back