Halo has finally been destroyed I

> I don’t care if I get banned from waypoint but I would just like to say halo 4 has become the worst halo in the series and I would like to thank 343 for destroying one of the best games ever made.
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> 1 there are too many forge maps and they are rubbish plain and boring there should be a separate playlist for forge maps. 2 Gone are the days where you learnt how to master a weapon and map or use strategy and skill to dominate the game now it’s all 343 I can’t win with this weapon can you make it more powerful so I don’t have to learn how to use it properly or can u make some maps that have no advantage points so I don’t have to use a bit of strategy or skill to take control of that point.
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> Finally number 3 why on earth have you stared changing the weapons and vehicles that spawn at the start of the game there was nothing wrong with how it was when the game first came out I know I’m not the only person who feels like this as I have over 30 hardcore halo gamer friends that have stopped playing halo 4 because of all the changes that have been made and its not just them neither you only have to look at the number of people playing online and you will see it has fallen dramatically I would go as far as saying more people played halo 3 than halo 4 and you have just lost another player. My only hope is when halo 5 comes out that you go back to basics then I might start playing again.

I don’t see why you would get banned for having an opinion plus I sort of understand your frustration, I myself haven’t played for about 2 month’s, haven’t seen many people playing H4 for a while. I know H4 maybe the worst but it’s probably best to wait till H5 since h4 isn’t going to change much anytime soon, it’s just best to avoid getting frustrated with it.

> > Hey now.
> > Halo 4 is far away from a bad game.
> > Remember Wars or ODST?
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> ODST was one of the best Halo games created, and wars. I hate it when people don’t appreciate not what really makes a game special. Just because you suck at is doesn’t mean it’s bad.

ODST was AWESOME!
Best theme and one of the best campaign.
Best FF by far.

I don’t get this no replay value thing, i could play it over and over!

OP: Use the Enter key.
I am not a fan of all the forg maps we have MP such as Opus. The balance update, while not perfect, i feel has helped the game.

They took a bad game and made it worse.

now that its official that 343 already learned their mistakes but this is their first game they made and we don’t have to offend for their failures but they will make it up they are now listing on the forums. i personally don’t hate 343, but this is their first game and i don’t bombarded of hatred for this game but they will not fail on halo 5. if halo 5 is a huge success sent a letter to 343 saying i Heart 343 Industries :slight_smile:

i am so random

> Hey now.
> Halo 4 is far away from a bad game.
> Remember Wars or ODST?

No, wars was the best rts game on 360 hands down no contest.

No, odst offered a new co-op mode and a campaign. Along with all the maps for halo 3 which would be a fantastic buy for anyone who held out for the majority of them.

TU helped h4, yet it’s still the worst or at least competing with reach for worst.

On topic though, i do agree forge maps getting over played now…which is probably related to adrift/haven/complex being played to death in first 3 months. All the more reason to taking voting out of the players hands and go back to veto system.

> They took a bad game and made it worse.

reach is not a bad game neither halo 3 and halo 4

> now that its official that 343 already learned their mistakes but this is their first game they made and we don’t have to offend for their failures but they will make it up they are now listing on the forums. i personally don’t hate 343, but this is their first game and i don’t bombarded of hatred for this game but they will not fail on halo 5. if halo 5 is a huge success sent a letter to 343 saying i Heart 343 Industries :slight_smile:

Wait till Halo 5 then we’ll find out if they did learn.

The low population speaks for itself, the game is going to be dead soon. It is dying and that is the reality of it. Stop fantasying people!

I would like to see the multiplayer of future Halos be more “traditional”. And going by the numbers, the community does too (not just the Waypoint community, the entire Halo community).

What!!! Wars was amazing and the best ever selling Console RTS and ODST’s campaign was great. Pfft if theirs any TERRIBLE halo… Spartan Assault. Thats the only one

> > What are you talking about?
> > Halo wars is an amazing console strategy game! A very addicting one, too!
> > And Halo 3 ODST is amongst one of the best Halo games ever!
> > I know a lot of people who would agree with me.
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> Wars was extremely boring and ODST had 0 replay value.

No, Wars was not boring. You might be right about the replay value of ODST though. Once and it’s basically done. It was still really good though and told a good story for between halo 2 and 3

>June 2013
>Still saying Halo is ruined

U wot m8? Yes the weapon spawns for this update are ridiculous, but overall the TU was a huge step in the right direction. We’re that much closer to having an experience that feels like Halo again.

worst thread I ever read. Thank you

Just for the record Halo Wars was an amazing game…

> I don’t care if I get banned from waypoint but I would just like to say halo 4 has become the worst halo in the series and I would like to thank 343 for destroying one of the best games ever made. 1 there are too many forge maps and they are rubbish plain and boring there should be a separate playlist for forge maps. 2 Gone are the days where you learnt how to master a weapon and map or use strategy and skill to dominate the game now it’s all 343 I can’t win with this weapon can you make it more powerful so I don’t have to learn how to use it properly or can u make some maps that have no advantage points so I don’t have to use a bit of strategy or skill to take control of that point. Finally number 3 why on earth have you stared changing the weapons and vehicles that spawn at the start of the game there was nothing wrong with how it was when the game first came out I know I’m not the only person who feels like this as I have over 30 hardcore halo gamer friends that have stopped playing halo 4 because of all the changes that have been made and its not just them neither you only have to look at the number of people playing online and you will see it has fallen dramatically I would go as far as saying more people played halo 3 than halo 4 and you have just lost another player. My only hope is when halo 5 comes out that you go back to basics then I might start playing again.

Forge maps were on Halo: Reach and Halo 3 matchmaking.

Yes, gone are those days. Blame Infinity.

Some of the vehicle changes are questionable. This is not the cause for the player drop.

Goodbye :slight_smile:

> > Hey now.
> > Halo 4 is far away from a bad game.
> > Remember Wars or ODST?
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> No, wars was the best rts game on 360 hands down no contest.

Not saying much…

Your second point is so hypocritical and silly.

The forge maps are designed with more power positions than the default maps.

The weapon balancing makes it so one weapon doesn’t rule over all others, thus it makes it harder for people who use that weapon because they actually have competition.

Your third point is also contradictory. You want them to go back “to the basics” yet you hate them changing the map layouts to be more traditional? Makes no sense,

Your friends obviously aren’t “hardcore halo fans” if they hate static weapon spawns, which every game except Halo 4 has had, including Reach.

> Gone are the days where you learnt how to master a weapon and map or use strategy and skill to dominate the game now it’s all 343 I can’t win with this weapon can you make it more powerful so I don’t have to learn how to use it properly

sigh…they buffed the other weapons just so that the DMR would be used less. Pre-update, most everyone likely had the DMR mastered and is their most used weapon. Now we have a reason to go back to the BR, as well as give the Carbine and LR a chance to shine.
Also, there ARE special gametypes you can play if you want to master a specific weapon. Multi-Team - Oddball and KoTH for autos, SWAT for BR + Magnum, Lighting CTF for LightRifle, Carbine, and Concussion Rifle.
And there you have it. Your argument is no longer valid. Actually, it never really was in the first place.
Learning to use the entire weapons sandbox is a worthwhile activity imo, and the update has helped to make that an easier and more enjoyable goal.

> > Halo 4 wasnt what i was excpecting. Elites arent playable there are lots of things why it did not played out well at all. I spent all my other halo careers as an ELITE and then they removed them from playing. Why even buy a game that ignores its own fanbase. AAAnd why use covenant weapons or ghost or banshee if u dont experience it with their right owner. SANGHEILIES
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> War Games. A simulation aboard Infinity that Spartan VI’s use to train.
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> Elites aren’t aboard Infinity.

Neither are flood. I really want to play as an Sangheili and so do a lot of other people I have no idea why they took them out.