I didn’t say “saw”, and I didn’t ask when you last saw people handing out money.
A) Games that cost a lot more to make than other games.
B) https://www.businessinsider.in/tech/the-most-expensive-video-games-ever-made/slidelist/37990400.cms#slideid=37990461
You’re confusing AAA and AAA+.
That article is almost a decade old, and only accounts for initial funding, not sustainability and maintenance costs over their life cycles. Even then, they still list Destiny 1 as costing 500m out the door.
You said it yourself in a reply to someone else. The cost of everything has gone up.
AAA+ has more than one meaning.
If you mean games with more revenue generation methods, it doesn’t change much.
They don’t need to gouge people to make a profit.
If they did, they would reduce the budget of the games they’re funding, or leave the industry.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_expensive_video_games_to_develop
None of the games go over $500M.
I’m not talking about the cost of game development.
Wages haven’t increased much, and for the most part, technology gets less expensive and easier to use as time progresses.
Wikipedia is not a credible source for anything.
That’s just it though. Whether or not they are gouging is just a matter of opinion. People are clearly buying the stuff and don’t mind the prices. I see more Spartans with paid cosmetics in the start and finish screens than I see not.
The model works. So why should or would they change it? Because a handful of people want to throw their hands up? Waypoint is and always has been a vocal minority of the Halo community. If you want to make waves and attempt be heard, go to Reddit or the Official Discord.
Have you ever tried to buy even like a basic soft drink or a souvenir at Disney Theme park? It’s the same concept.
Obsolete tech becomes cheaper, new tech will always cost more. That’s industry. You don’t ever see new iPhones getting cheaper than the last iteration do you? NFT Servers can run electric bills higher than entire cities.
There are other sources on that page.
Have you not heard of whales, or of people who aren’t great at managing their money?
People have already mentioned the prices on Reddit.
Recent technology can usually compete with the latest technology.
Also, for a while, I think people continued using Windows XP.
They might still be using it.
Including the first link you posted, that you now want to disregard because it didn’t support your position.
Whales aren’t new. They have become an essential part of the industries ecosystem. It’s also very unlikely every cat ears, iron man, pineapple, or pink flower player you encounter is a whale.
Insulting and belittling people that don’t have an issue with the prices doesn’t further your argument any.
And have been met with the same response you’re getting here.
Stop trolling.
Those people aren’t the norm or will end up regretting their reckless purchases at some point.
They got a lot of upvotes, as well as nonsense replies that were downvoted into oblivion.
Not quite the same as here, since the nonsense replies aren’t able to be sent to oblivion, but quite close on the upvoting part.
Ah a classic response to anyone that disagrees with you.
Opinions aren’t facts. And again trying to shame people.
They get a lot of traction via misinformation or blatant lies, which then flip flop as soon as someone overturns them. Like the guy that lied and tried to tell people not to buy the pink flowers because it causes a blinding effect.
You’d never lead a revolution, ever. Just take everything at face value and accept what they put in front of you, and consume. If that’s your stance, that’s your stance.
We don’t like it, we said it, you say it’s dumb to dislike it because people buy it anyways and it’s good for the company.
We say so what.
We’ve experienced stuff we like, we’d like that instead.
That’s fine. And you’re entitled to that stance. But you can’t expect there to not be pushback. And you don’t win revolutions by name calling and spreading misinformation.
No, it’s a response I only use for trolls, and I use it sparingly.
It’s not an opinion.
Sometimes, but most of the time, it’s because they’re right.
Right, but to have push back from people who want to spend more money on a game selling $20 pink trails is wild.
But don’t worry, I’m sure my crypto will explode one day and I’ll take the seth rogen stance of “So what if someone breaks into your car”
To that end I say why?
Why is it wild?
Why do people in your stance think it’s acceptable to shame and send hate mail to people in my stance?
But when we speak up about it, suddenly we’re trolls, or shills, or just idiots with too much money. Turn around is fair play, my friend.
Why can there never be a civil discussion?
Call it a difference of morals and ethics. I think my money is worth more than what they’re charging, regardless of economic politics.
Because it’s low-effort content that you’re buying at a high price.
If I draw some shapes on a notepad paper, will you buy it from me for $1,000?
I don’t send hate mail.
I didn’t say you were trolling until you made it obvious that you’re trolling.
Isn’t that what this has been?
if you NFT it, maybe XD
Referring to people that have no issue with the prices as reckless, foolish, frivolous, etc is still throwing out insults and not what I would consider civil discussion.
I called attention to a detail in an article you linked that supported my stance, to which you responded with another article, and specifically made effort to mention that it didn’t have the aforementioned detail. You didn’t even bother responding to the initial point I was making about it, instead ignored it and found other source material.
And when I called you on that, you called me the troll? How is that right?
Didn’t mean to only reply to half. Waypoint on mobile is trash.
If you can get a licensing agreement for a brand I care about, then let’s talk.
Maybe not you specifically, but let’s not pretend that you’re side of the discussion isn’t without its toxic people. Not saying mine isn’t either.
It is what it is.
Also, I would only not consider it a civil discussion if one of us was saying crude things.
Refresh my memory.
That’s just ridiculous.
I didn’t say, “My side doesn’t send hate mail”.
I said, “I don’t send hate mail”.
I don’t understand the latching onto ‘specific’ points like this when the sentiment is pretty well laid out. Like specifying “Maybe not you specifically, but let’s not pretend your side of the discussion isn’t without it’s toxic people” just reminds me of the articles you two were referencing- Like they’re charging $20 for a pink trail and 4 of the same-but-different emblems.
Game was in development for 4-6 years.
There’s games out there that:
[different genres don’t matter. Look at the end product and what the content is. Everything in a game takes time to make. Bigger games have been made in shorter amounts of time, across ALL genres, with more stuff to unlock and do in, on way tighter budgets]
I understand this is a live service game. I understand they need and deserve money for the product.
All I’m saying is there was a better way to do this, and all of those ways could have been inspired/taken/ripped from the last 7 games.