Halo Customization Lies, January 5th 2022

Call it a difference of morals and ethics. I think my money is worth more than what they’re charging, regardless of economic politics.

Because it’s low-effort content that you’re buying at a high price.
If I draw some shapes on a notepad paper, will you buy it from me for $1,000?

I don’t send hate mail.

I didn’t say you were trolling until you made it obvious that you’re trolling.

Isn’t that what this has been?

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if you NFT it, maybe XD

Referring to people that have no issue with the prices as reckless, foolish, frivolous, etc is still throwing out insults and not what I would consider civil discussion.

I called attention to a detail in an article you linked that supported my stance, to which you responded with another article, and specifically made effort to mention that it didn’t have the aforementioned detail. You didn’t even bother responding to the initial point I was making about it, instead ignored it and found other source material.

And when I called you on that, you called me the troll? How is that right?

Didn’t mean to only reply to half. Waypoint on mobile is trash.

If you can get a licensing agreement for a brand I care about, then let’s talk.

Maybe not you specifically, but let’s not pretend that you’re side of the discussion isn’t without its toxic people. Not saying mine isn’t either.

It is what it is.
Also, I would only not consider it a civil discussion if one of us was saying crude things.

Refresh my memory.

That’s just ridiculous.

I didn’t say, “My side doesn’t send hate mail”.
I said, “I don’t send hate mail”.

I don’t understand the latching onto ‘specific’ points like this when the sentiment is pretty well laid out. Like specifying “Maybe not you specifically, but let’s not pretend your side of the discussion isn’t without it’s toxic people” just reminds me of the articles you two were referencing- Like they’re charging $20 for a pink trail and 4 of the same-but-different emblems.
Game was in development for 4-6 years.
There’s games out there that:
[different genres don’t matter. Look at the end product and what the content is. Everything in a game takes time to make. Bigger games have been made in shorter amounts of time, across ALL genres, with more stuff to unlock and do in, on way tighter budgets]

I understand this is a live service game. I understand they need and deserve money for the product.
All I’m saying is there was a better way to do this, and all of those ways could have been inspired/taken/ripped from the last 7 games.

See what? That people are willing to spend money on things they are passionate about?

How is that new and shocking?

Have you seen what’s widely accepted as fair trade for sports memorabilia? People will spend $200 on a Jersey without batting an eye.

See the difference is there are way more gamers than there are niche collectors. Like I don’t bash pokemon card collectors for spending $400 on a rainbow charizard, because I don’t collect nor do I play.
That’s why I’m here!
Your other point about a disney souvenir cup, Disneyworld/land isn’t in my home. It’s not on my PC. Halo isn’t something you vacation to and spend $20 on a sip cup! Or, it shouldn’t be, imo

Oh man… $4,000 for a MTG black lotus in High school. I don’t even want to humor looking up the average price of one these days.

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You’d be willing to spend that much on a notepad paper with whatever shapes I draw as long as I get a licensing agreement from a brand you like?
That’s ridiculous.

Well I sold my ETH in June so… don’t feel too bad ;-;

If the art is good (I.e. my taste), limited run, and had a certificate of authenticity of some sort, then yea… I’d consider that a collectors item.

I have actual limited run Hand drawn posters for HW2 and Borderlands that I paid a few hundred dollars for at the time they were released, and I occasionally see them listed for 4-5x what I paid on eBay and StockX. So like the resale value is there if I needed it to be.

Granted I am fully aware that I cannot resell a cosmetic from the store without selling my entire account, so it isn’t in the same vein. But in your example you’re talking about a tangible item.

When slivers made a comeback in legions back in 2003, I sold my entire tempest sliver collection for upwards of $12,000. Not a bad haul for a teenager, especially since they weren’t technically legal for play either.

I’ve since given up on selling my collectibles though, not finding myself strapped for cash like I was back then.

Fair enough. Fair enough.

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I swear everytime I see his pfp I know it’s gonna be some absurd shilling

The customization system needs work, sure.

I own the campaign, and have payed the $8 for the battle pass. And so far I have more armor customization options then any prior Halo game. It took Halo 5 many months/years to start getting on the cosmetic train, and as a player that didn’t pay for REQ packs… my options in that game are still limited.

In Infinite, I already have 3 cores, with 15(?) slots of customization each. And compared to BP from other games, I find Infinites to be pretty dang good. Instead of getting a mountain of secondary customization (such as player icons and such), there is a ton of mix and match armor pieces. While also having 5 or 6 full character skins from Noble Team.

With that said, I would still like to see some improvements. Like:
-More weapon/vehicle skins
-Rework of how shaders work, so that we have an option to pick secondary and primary colors
-All shaders should be universal
-A “new player experience” system that unlocks a 4th armor set, and a handful of free cosmetics
-Rework challenge system

Personally, I much prefer the spot we are in with H:I then Halo 5. And I feel that give the game time to go through another season or two, and we will have a whole pile of customization options. Especially once we start seeing updates to the map list and game modes.

$20 pink trail, $20 suit AI.
That’s egregious!
Ope, didn’t see that this was on this thread lol, getting my wires crossed. Yeah I just want freedom of choice in my cosmetics and not need 4 ‘different but same’ emblems/colors.

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I mean, then don’t buy them. If enough people vote with their wallets, the prices will drop.

But personally I don’t take issue since the Shop is completely avoidable.

As long as the BP is good, and sees a bit of improvement, and the event cosmetics remain good, I’ll be happy.

EDIT: Just saw your edit. And yea, that is my feeling. A few tweaks and the system will be so much better.

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I’m more in the camp of ‘companies shouldn’t price pink trails @ $20 to begin with because it sets a bad precedent for the future’.

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