Halo Customization Lies, January 5th 2022

You’d never lead a revolution, ever. Just take everything at face value and accept what they put in front of you, and consume. If that’s your stance, that’s your stance.
We don’t like it, we said it, you say it’s dumb to dislike it because people buy it anyways and it’s good for the company.
We say so what.
We’ve experienced stuff we like, we’d like that instead.

That’s fine. And you’re entitled to that stance. But you can’t expect there to not be pushback. And you don’t win revolutions by name calling and spreading misinformation.

No, it’s a response I only use for trolls, and I use it sparingly.

It’s not an opinion.

Sometimes, but most of the time, it’s because they’re right.

Right, but to have push back from people who want to spend more money on a game selling $20 pink trails is wild.

But don’t worry, I’m sure my crypto will explode one day and I’ll take the seth rogen stance of “So what if someone breaks into your car”

To that end I say why?

Why is it wild?

Why do people in your stance think it’s acceptable to shame and send hate mail to people in my stance?
But when we speak up about it, suddenly we’re trolls, or shills, or just idiots with too much money. Turn around is fair play, my friend.

Why can there never be a civil discussion?

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Call it a difference of morals and ethics. I think my money is worth more than what they’re charging, regardless of economic politics.

Because it’s low-effort content that you’re buying at a high price.
If I draw some shapes on a notepad paper, will you buy it from me for $1,000?

I don’t send hate mail.

I didn’t say you were trolling until you made it obvious that you’re trolling.

Isn’t that what this has been?

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if you NFT it, maybe XD

Referring to people that have no issue with the prices as reckless, foolish, frivolous, etc is still throwing out insults and not what I would consider civil discussion.

I called attention to a detail in an article you linked that supported my stance, to which you responded with another article, and specifically made effort to mention that it didn’t have the aforementioned detail. You didn’t even bother responding to the initial point I was making about it, instead ignored it and found other source material.

And when I called you on that, you called me the troll? How is that right?

Didn’t mean to only reply to half. Waypoint on mobile is trash.

If you can get a licensing agreement for a brand I care about, then let’s talk.

Maybe not you specifically, but let’s not pretend that you’re side of the discussion isn’t without its toxic people. Not saying mine isn’t either.

It is what it is.
Also, I would only not consider it a civil discussion if one of us was saying crude things.

Refresh my memory.

That’s just ridiculous.

I didn’t say, “My side doesn’t send hate mail”.
I said, “I don’t send hate mail”.

I don’t understand the latching onto ‘specific’ points like this when the sentiment is pretty well laid out. Like specifying “Maybe not you specifically, but let’s not pretend your side of the discussion isn’t without it’s toxic people” just reminds me of the articles you two were referencing- Like they’re charging $20 for a pink trail and 4 of the same-but-different emblems.
Game was in development for 4-6 years.
There’s games out there that:
[different genres don’t matter. Look at the end product and what the content is. Everything in a game takes time to make. Bigger games have been made in shorter amounts of time, across ALL genres, with more stuff to unlock and do in, on way tighter budgets]

I understand this is a live service game. I understand they need and deserve money for the product.
All I’m saying is there was a better way to do this, and all of those ways could have been inspired/taken/ripped from the last 7 games.

See what? That people are willing to spend money on things they are passionate about?

How is that new and shocking?

Have you seen what’s widely accepted as fair trade for sports memorabilia? People will spend $200 on a Jersey without batting an eye.

See the difference is there are way more gamers than there are niche collectors. Like I don’t bash pokemon card collectors for spending $400 on a rainbow charizard, because I don’t collect nor do I play.
That’s why I’m here!
Your other point about a disney souvenir cup, Disneyworld/land isn’t in my home. It’s not on my PC. Halo isn’t something you vacation to and spend $20 on a sip cup! Or, it shouldn’t be, imo

Oh man… $4,000 for a MTG black lotus in High school. I don’t even want to humor looking up the average price of one these days.

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You’d be willing to spend that much on a notepad paper with whatever shapes I draw as long as I get a licensing agreement from a brand you like?
That’s ridiculous.

Well I sold my ETH in June so… don’t feel too bad ;-;

If the art is good (I.e. my taste), limited run, and had a certificate of authenticity of some sort, then yea… I’d consider that a collectors item.

I have actual limited run Hand drawn posters for HW2 and Borderlands that I paid a few hundred dollars for at the time they were released, and I occasionally see them listed for 4-5x what I paid on eBay and StockX. So like the resale value is there if I needed it to be.

Granted I am fully aware that I cannot resell a cosmetic from the store without selling my entire account, so it isn’t in the same vein. But in your example you’re talking about a tangible item.

When slivers made a comeback in legions back in 2003, I sold my entire tempest sliver collection for upwards of $12,000. Not a bad haul for a teenager, especially since they weren’t technically legal for play either.

I’ve since given up on selling my collectibles though, not finding myself strapped for cash like I was back then.

Fair enough. Fair enough.