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> > Sure, I’d even be fine with it being the primary spawn weapon provided it actually worked similarly to the OG XBox CE Pistol and not the awful H5 version.
> > The CE Pistol isn’t unbalanced unless you are a Hunter and that is only due to a bug. The CE Pistol is actually less powerful relative to the rest of the sandbox than most other precision weapons that come after it. A good player may actually drop their CE Pistol depending on the situation, there is basically never a good reason not to have you BR(or DMR or H5 Magnum) with you at all times.
> > It takes more than one weapon to unbalance a sandbox, a CE Pistol isn’t going to break the sandbox if the rest of the sandbox is up to par.
> Disagree the CE optimal was a 3 headshot .5 s Ttk out to a 5 shot body at + 1.7 s
> .5 is cod levels of insanity for context the H3 br optimal was 1.35s and the h5 magnum optimal was 1.2 s
> If the CE magnum was introduced why would I use anything else if I can secure a .5 - 1.7 Ttk
For one thing virtually none of those number are correct but more importantly the numbers do not tell the whole story. The skill gap of the CE Pistol on original xbox is a good deal wider than basically any utility weapon to come after it. You are not getting 3 shots the way you get 4s and 5s on later weapons. Every weapon sans the needler is viable whether its due to the OHK potential of the sniper, rockets, and shotgun, the stun potential of the plasma rifle, and the close quarters potential of the AR(and its melee in particular) there are plenty of reasons to use other weapon. Quick camo alone is enough of a reason to drop your pistol.
Fast forward to later games and there is virtually no reason to ever drop your utility weapon, your melee attacks are just as fast, camo works just as effectively with a scoped weapon as one without, aim assist and magnetism are much higher, and in Halo 2-Reach there are more useless weapons that are bad at their jobs than CE.
I’m not going to claim CE is perfect or that some things couldn’t be changed, but I am tired of ignorant people just pointing at the CE Pistol’s perfect TTK and pretending there are no other options in the CE sandbox, especially when many of your options are objectively worse in later games.