Halo 1 was innovative.
It introduced so many mechanics that are now slandered. It made the PC generation take notice of the console generation with envy.
Halo 2 was innovative.
It expanded the mechanics and added online multiplayer. Allowing the mainstream to experience what Cheetos/mountain dew addicts have been rubbing in our faces.
Halo 3 was innovative.
At this time in my life halo 2 made me ant to become a game designer. So I proceeded to get raped by ITT Tech. But even though that didnt pan out. Halo 3 dropped with the forge. Finally I was a game designer. I was one of those forgers whod spend hours glitching two boxes together to create my own shapes. Id finish a map and invite my friends and revel in their praises.
Reach…not so much.
But I forgive the lack of innovation cause it was clear bungee was just fulfilling their contract and working on their exit.
Halo 4…more of the same…except…
A missed opportunity in sparten ops.
Halo 5…its good but lets focus on innovation…
I thought sparten ops would return with a vengeance. Finally a forgable single player experience. That would be innovative. I don’t believe our current generation of consoles could handle a forgable campaign. To deep. But if 343 put their heads together we could have a forgable sparten ops on the smaller scale single player missions. If we’re lucky maybe we could string a few custom maps together to create a campaign. When halo 3 came out we really didnt know we wanted forge till we got it. But bungee knew it. We don’t hear much about forging a single player expierence on this site but if we had it that’s all we’d talk about. "Hey man…I just recreated reach. My versions much darker. Hey man wanna play my new map…bugger alley. Hey I just created the directors cut of the warthog escape on maw. What you didnt know I was the director -Yoink-!
Its not even out and you start complaining?
Lol Im not complaining Im merely suggesting. But I get it. So many people complain its trendy to b×××h about someone who is on a different path. So go on and get a tattoo cause your bf has one. Get married cause if you don’t your girl that treats you -Yoink- will leave you if you don’t and you know she will. Be trendy buddy. Hate me cause I don’t except anything as perfection. Just cause you except there is no room for improvement in your world doesn’t mean I have to swallow it. See you on the battlefield
> We get improvment from those who conplain,the happy ones doesnt want changes.
> Herbert Georg Wells
I can accept the facts that you want improvments,who not?
I would like also some changes.
But you posted it like “Halo6 is already out and its bad.”
Also forgive me if I have misspelled the quote and that I dont say something about your examples.
How is it a missed opportunity if we haven’t even received any information on it?
I’d reserve judgement until we at least get concept art.
The game isn’t even out yet and people are already complaining about it? What has this community came to…
I don’t think something that doesn’t exist yet can be a missed opportunity. I think Spartan Ops would be cool to have again but making your own, that would be a lot of work for them to incorporate and make work right. I rather them focus on having more stuff to do at launch and having a good story this time than have them split their efforts like that and make us wait to have maps and play lists again.
Wow you people are total fan boys. I write this before the game comes out hoping some one sees this so they know what I want in a halo game. You idiots seem to think everyone should keep their mouths shut and then complain later after the game comes out when its to late to get the features I want.
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> Wow you people are total fan boys. I write this before the game comes out hoping some one sees this so they know what I want in a halo game. You idiots seem to think everyone should keep their mouths shut and then complain later after the game comes out when its to late to get the features I want.
Why do you get so defensive when someone has a different opinion and shares their view? Insulting someone for thinking differently than you isn’t really much of a discussion. If you don’t have anything to say, don’t post. Forums are for discussions and we are all welcome to tell you what we feel and think. This doesn’t make us, “trendy” or “fan boys.” So just chill and learn to just continue the discussion without resorting to name calling.
H3 wasn’t very innovative, the only new thing not seen in H2 was equipment which was so limited that 97% of the time it was useless.
Now Reach on the other hand really mixed things up and pushed Halo forward.
It’s just that people who really locked into H2 & H3 don’t want growth outside of that formula, they want growth within it.
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> How is it a missed opportunity if we haven’t even received any information on it?
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> I’d reserve judgement until we at least get concept art.
Well stating on how 343’s track record I am pleased to say I dont think H6 will be much of anything. So much left out that SHOULD have been at the beginning. You dont nail those 30 seconds, your not going to have a good game.
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> Well stating on how 343’s track record I am pleased to say I dont think H6 will be much of anything. So much left out that SHOULD have been at the beginning. You dont nail those 30 seconds, your not going to have a good game.
They might do a better job at that with 6 after seeing how much it upset people.
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> They might do a better job at that with 6 after seeing how much it upset people.
Well, in my opinion, they had their chance. I will buy Halo 6 but it wont be until a long time.
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> Well stating on how 343’s track record I am pleased to say I dont think H6 will be much of anything. So much left out that SHOULD have been at the beginning. You dont nail those 30 seconds, your not going to have a good game.
You say 343i’s track record, implying they are bad at what they do. This is not true, it’s your opinion and you provide no evidence what so ever other than the fact that Microsoft rushed them. They had a great game made for what little time was given. Again you stating your opinion and showing they are good with time management doesn’t help your case much.
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> > Well stating on how 343’s track record I am pleased to say I dont think H6 will be much of anything. So much left out that SHOULD have been at the beginning. You dont nail those 30 seconds, your not going to have a good game.
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> You say 343i’s track record, implying they are bad at what they do. This is not true, it’s your opinion and you provide no evidence what so ever other than the fact that Microsoft rushed them. They had a great game made for what little time was given. Again you stating your opinion and showing they are good with time management doesn’t help your case much.
Yea their track record is a fine example regardless. Halo 4, 343 hired people who hated Halo and made it similar to CoD, that is your first strike. TMCC was a colossal failue and they dont care to properly fix it regardless if it worked some of the time, at least Dice fixed their game whenever they knew it wasnt working right and didnt give up on it until it was fixed, as for 343, well not so much, that is strike two. Now we come to Halo 5 an overly competitive wannabe Halo game that focuses on nothing more than a competitive field with <mark>REDACTED</mark> as the design multiplayer designer, one of the worst people to bring into Halo because he doesnt care much for the social aspect of the game and made it into what we have.
Im not saying that they are bad but they care less of what the fans of the series want and 3 years is plenty of time to get your crap straight and not have this game being as bareboned as it stands. Where is everything? Months have went by and it took them forever to implement fan wanted gamemodes into the game. Its also almost a year and we STILL dont have everything.
Also I might as well mention, where is the population counter? Show us just how “mighty” this game really is.
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> > You say 343i’s track record, implying they are bad at what they do. This is not true, it’s your opinion and you provide no evidence what so ever other than the fact that Microsoft rushed them. They had a great game made for what little time was given. Again you stating your opinion and showing they are good with time management doesn’t help your case much.
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> Yea their track record is a fine example regardless. Halo 4, 343 hired people who hated Halo and made it similar to CoD, that is your first strike. TMCC was a colossal failue and they dont care to properly fix it regardless if it worked some of the time, at least Dice fixed their game whenever they knew it wasnt working right and didnt give up on it until it was fixed, as for 343, well not so much, that is strike two. Now we come to Halo 5 an overly competitive wannabe Halo game that focuses on nothing more than a competitive field with Quinn Del Hoyo as the design multiplayer designer, one of the worst people to bring into Halo because he doesnt care much for the social aspect of the game and made it into what we have.
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> Im not saying that they are bad but they care less of what the fans of the series want and 3 years is plenty of time to get your crap straight and not have this game being as bareboned as it stands. Where is everything? Months have went by and it took them forever to implement fan wanted gamemodes into the game. Its also almost a year and we STILL dont have everything.
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> Also I might as well mention, where is the population counter? Show us just how “mighty” this game really is.
It’s very obviously you didn’t read carefully, they were rushed of course your not gonna have everything. They had to make a choice whether to include unfinished things or wait and have them refined. I’m certain they have learned their lesson and won’t do it again even if Microsoft wants it. Now they may have hit a rough patch with MCC (even though I seen really nothing wrong with it) but I’m sure Microsoft has them prioritize halo 5, halo wars 2, and Halo 6 at the moment. Also where did this information of them hiring people who hate halo come from, I’ve never heard or seen anything at all about this?
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> > > > Well stating on how 343’s track record I am pleased to say I dont think H6 will be much of anything. So much left out that SHOULD have been at the beginning. You dont nail those 30 seconds, your not going to have a good game.
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> > > You say 343i’s track record, implying they are bad at what they do. This is not true, it’s your opinion and you provide no evidence what so ever other than the fact that Microsoft rushed them. They had a great game made for what little time was given. Again you stating your opinion and showing they are good with time management doesn’t help your case much.
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> > Yea their track record is a fine example regardless. Halo 4, 343 hired people who hated Halo and made it similar to CoD, that is your first strike. TMCC was a colossal failue and they dont care to properly fix it regardless if it worked some of the time, at least Dice fixed their game whenever they knew it wasnt working right and didnt give up on it until it was fixed, as for 343, well not so much, that is strike two. Now we come to Halo 5 an overly competitive wannabe Halo game that focuses on nothing more than a competitive field with Quinn Del Hoyo as the design multiplayer designer, one of the worst people to bring into Halo because he doesnt care much for the social aspect of the game and made it into what we have.
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> > Im not saying that they are bad but they care less of what the fans of the series want and 3 years is plenty of time to get your crap straight and not have this game being as bareboned as it stands. Where is everything? Months have went by and it took them forever to implement fan wanted gamemodes into the game. Its also almost a year and we STILL dont have everything.
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> > Also I might as well mention, where is the population counter? Show us just how “mighty” this game really is.
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> It’s very obviously you didn’t read carefully, they were rushed of course your not gonna have everything. They had to make a choice whether to include unfinished things or wait and have them refined. I’m certain they have learned their lesson and won’t do it again even if Microsoft wants it. Now they may have hit a rough patch with MCC (even though I seen really nothing wrong with it) but I’m sure Microsoft has them prioritize halo 5, halo wars 2, and Halo 6 at the moment. Also where did this information of them hiring people who hate halo come from, I’ve never heard or seen anything at all about this?
No I read what you posted but I am saying three years is enough time to add in the original game modes and other things that were in past Halo games then could have come the other stuff.
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> > > > > Well stating on how 343’s track record I am pleased to say I dont think H6 will be much of anything. So much left out that SHOULD have been at the beginning. You dont nail those 30 seconds, your not going to have a good game.
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> > > >
> > > > You say 343i’s track record, implying they are bad at what they do. This is not true, it’s your opinion and you provide no evidence what so ever other than the fact that Microsoft rushed them. They had a great game made for what little time was given. Again you stating your opinion and showing they are good with time management doesn’t help your case much.
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> > > Yea their track record is a fine example regardless. Halo 4, 343 hired people who hated Halo and made it similar to CoD, that is your first strike. TMCC was a colossal failue and they dont care to properly fix it regardless if it worked some of the time, at least Dice fixed their game whenever they knew it wasnt working right and didnt give up on it until it was fixed, as for 343, well not so much, that is strike two. Now we come to Halo 5 an overly competitive wannabe Halo game that focuses on nothing more than a competitive field with Quinn Del Hoyo as the design multiplayer designer, one of the worst people to bring into Halo because he doesnt care much for the social aspect of the game and made it into what we have.
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> > > Im not saying that they are bad but they care less of what the fans of the series want and 3 years is plenty of time to get your crap straight and not have this game being as bareboned as it stands. Where is everything? Months have went by and it took them forever to implement fan wanted gamemodes into the game. Its also almost a year and we STILL dont have everything.
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> > > Also I might as well mention, where is the population counter? Show us just how “mighty” this game really is.
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> > It’s very obviously you didn’t read carefully, they were rushed of course your not gonna have everything. They had to make a choice whether to include unfinished things or wait and have them refined. I’m certain they have learned their lesson and won’t do it again even if Microsoft wants it. Now they may have hit a rough patch with MCC (even though I seen really nothing wrong with it) but I’m sure Microsoft has them prioritize halo 5, halo wars 2, and Halo 6 at the moment. Also where did this information of them hiring people who hate halo come from, I’ve never heard or seen anything at all about this?
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> No I read what you posted but I am saying three years is enough time to add in the original game modes and other things that were in past Halo games then could have come the other stuff.
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> We hired people who hated Halo - Frank O Connor
Nice there is evidence, but still they may have been making halo 5 in a different order at which you wouldn’t have like but either way they were rushed and shouldn’t have been, they shouldn’t be blamed for some else’s faults. In my eye I see it as they’ve hit one strike so far (MCC). But that’s my personal opinion as does everyone else. But really you can’t say they don’t listen, they do and have implemented fans ideas.
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> > > > > > Well stating on how 343’s track record I am pleased to say I dont think H6 will be much of anything. So much left out that SHOULD have been at the beginning. You dont nail those 30 seconds, your not going to have a good game.
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> > > > > You say 343i’s track record, implying they are bad at what they do. This is not true, it’s your opinion and you provide no evidence what so ever other than the fact that Microsoft rushed them. They had a great game made for what little time was given. Again you stating your opinion and showing they are good with time management doesn’t help your case much.
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> > > > Yea their track record is a fine example regardless. Halo 4, 343 hired people who hated Halo and made it similar to CoD, that is your first strike. TMCC was a colossal failue and they dont care to properly fix it regardless if it worked some of the time, at least Dice fixed their game whenever they knew it wasnt working right and didnt give up on it until it was fixed, as for 343, well not so much, that is strike two. Now we come to Halo 5 an overly competitive wannabe Halo game that focuses on nothing more than a competitive field with Quinn Del Hoyo as the design multiplayer designer, one of the worst people to bring into Halo because he doesnt care much for the social aspect of the game and made it into what we have.
> > > > Im not saying that they are bad but they care less of what the fans of the series want and 3 years is plenty of time to get your crap straight and not have this game being as bareboned as it stands. Where is everything? Months have went by and it took them forever to implement fan wanted gamemodes into the game. Its also almost a year and we STILL dont have everything.
> > > > Also I might as well mention, where is the population counter? Show us just how “mighty” this game really is.
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> > > It’s very obviously you didn’t read carefully, they were rushed of course your not gonna have everything. They had to make a choice whether to include unfinished things or wait and have them refined. I’m certain they have learned their lesson and won’t do it again even if Microsoft wants it. Now they may have hit a rough patch with MCC (even though I seen really nothing wrong with it) but I’m sure Microsoft has them prioritize halo 5, halo wars 2, and Halo 6 at the moment. Also where did this information of them hiring people who hate halo come from, I’ve never heard or seen anything at all about this?
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> > No I read what you posted but I am saying three years is enough time to add in the original game modes and other things that were in past Halo games then could have come the other stuff.
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> Nice there is evidence, but still they may have been making halo 5 in a different order at which you wouldn’t have like but either way they were rushed and shouldn’t have been, they shouldn’t be blamed for some else’s faults. In my eye I see it as they’ve hit one strike so far (MCC). But that’s my personal opinion as does everyone else. But really you can’t say they don’t listen, they do and have implemented fans ideas.
Well they are who they are and that wont change. as far as some of the people they brought on I think they should down right get rid of them and find better people. Lots of people hate Halo 5 but are praising Gears 4. Gears Judgement was just bad, including the Multiplayer f things. <mark>REDACTED</mark> was in charge of that and because of him wanting to make things HIS way, fans backlashed and the population failed thus him leaving the company. He works with 343 as I am sure you know and personally I think he needs replaced because thinking that social aspects dont need to be in the game and that everything should be ranked is a joke. He basically insults the original trilogy for what it was.
As for another person, I think <mark>REDACTED</mark> needs removed because of the bad story telling he has done. No one likes his Marvel Comics and no one liked his story with Halo 5. If 343 keeps him, then they are more stupid that I thought.
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> > > > > > You say 343i’s track record, implying they are bad at what they do. This is not true, it’s your opinion and you provide no evidence what so ever other than the fact that Microsoft rushed them. They had a great game made for what little time was given. Again you stating your opinion and showing they are good with time management doesn’t help your case much.
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> > > > > Yea their track record is a fine example regardless. Halo 4, 343 hired people who hated Halo and made it similar to CoD, that is your first strike. TMCC was a colossal failue and they dont care to properly fix it regardless if it worked some of the time, at least Dice fixed their game whenever they knew it wasnt working right and didnt give up on it until it was fixed, as for 343, well not so much, that is strike two. Now we come to Halo 5 an overly competitive wannabe Halo game that focuses on nothing more than a competitive field with Quinn Del Hoyo as the design multiplayer designer, one of the worst people to bring into Halo because he doesnt care much for the social aspect of the game and made it into what we have.
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> > > > > Im not saying that they are bad but they care less of what the fans of the series want and 3 years is plenty of time to get your crap straight and not have this game being as bareboned as it stands. Where is everything? Months have went by and it took them forever to implement fan wanted gamemodes into the game. Its also almost a year and we STILL dont have everything.
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> > > > > Also I might as well mention, where is the population counter? Show us just how “mighty” this game really is.
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> > > > It’s very obviously you didn’t read carefully, they were rushed of course your not gonna have everything. They had to make a choice whether to include unfinished things or wait and have them refined. I’m certain they have learned their lesson and won’t do it again even if Microsoft wants it. Now they may have hit a rough patch with MCC (even though I seen really nothing wrong with it) but I’m sure Microsoft has them prioritize halo 5, halo wars 2, and Halo 6 at the moment. Also where did this information of them hiring people who hate halo come from, I’ve never heard or seen anything at all about this?
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> > > No I read what you posted but I am saying three years is enough time to add in the original game modes and other things that were in past Halo games then could have come the other stuff.
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> > > We hired people who hated Halo - Frank O Connor
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> > Nice there is evidence, but still they may have been making halo 5 in a different order at which you wouldn’t have like but either way they were rushed and shouldn’t have been, they shouldn’t be blamed for some else’s faults. In my eye I see it as they’ve hit one strike so far (MCC). But that’s my personal opinion as does everyone else. But really you can’t say they don’t listen, they do and have implemented fans ideas.
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> Well they are who they are and that wont change. as far as some of the people they brought on I think they should down right get rid of them and find better people. Lots of people hate Halo 5 but are praising Gears 4. Gears Judgement was just bad, including the Multiplayer f things. Quinn Del Hoyo was in charge of that and because of him wanting to make things HIS way, fans backlashed and the population failed thus him leaving the company. He works with 343 as I am sure you know and personally I think he needs replaced because thinking that social aspects dont need to be in the game and that everything should be ranked is a joke. He basically insults the original trilogy for what it was.
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> As for another person, I think Brian Reed needs removed because of the bad story telling he has done. No one likes his Marvel Comics and no one liked his story with Halo 5. If 343 keeps him, then they are more stupid that I thought.
They aren’t necessarily stupid but I see what your talking about. Most of the hate you have is mostly towards these two people and from what I know of them they should be out of a job. That is for sure.